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Old 11-23-2005, 07:31 PM
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Angry 05 745Li - Motorla v60 Phone

I know this is a repeat issue but I wanted to see if anyone has found out anything new regarding this topic. Here is where I am:

Just 2 days ago I bought a brand new fully loaded 2005 BMW 745Li from a BMW dealership in Canada. I had specifically mentioned to them that I must have a proper built-in phone solution since I need to talk on the phone a lot. They told me that my car uses bluetooth and comes with a Motorola Razor, which I was happy about. However, after the purchase I found out they made a mistake and my car uses another "nice" plugin Motorla phone that should arrive soon. Today they gave me a BMW Motorola v60!!! As you can imagine I am absolutely upset with the BMW dealership for their mistake. I am even more disgusted by BMW itself for using a worthless phone (5 year old technology) for their 2005 top of the line model. I cannot believe that they have not attempted to upgrade their built-in phone software to use a newer version of a Motorola.



Anyway, I am done fuming for now. So before returning my car I want to explore all my options.

1) I read that someone was able to use a motorola v551 instead. Is that still working fine for you? Has anyone else done that successfully?

2) I have also heard about a bluetooth retrofit that's coming out soon. Anyone has any info on how this works? Is this an external component or does it properly integrate with the idrive?

3) Has anyone contacted BMW directly for a solution?

Thanks.
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Old 11-23-2005, 08:22 PM
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I know this is a repeat issue but I wanted to see if anyone has found out anything new regarding this topic. Here is where I am:

Just 2 days ago I bought a brand new fully loaded 2005 BMW 745Li from a BMW dealership in Canada. I had specifically mentioned to them that I must have a proper built-in phone solution since I need to talk on the phone a lot. They told me that my car uses bluetooth and comes with a Motorola Razor, which I was happy about. However, after the purchase I found out they made a mistake and my car uses another "nice" plugin Motorla phone that should arrive soon. Today they gave me a BMW Motorola v60!!! As you can imagine I am absolutely upset with the BMW dealership for their mistake. I am even more disgusted by BMW itself for using a worthless phone (5 year old technology) for their 2005 top of the line model. I cannot believe that they have not attempted to upgrade their built-in phone software to use a newer version of a Motorola.



Anyway, I am done fuming for now. So before returning my car I want to explore all my options.

1) I read that someone was able to use a motorola v551 instead. Is that still working fine for you? Has anyone else done that successfully?

2) I have also heard about a bluetooth retrofit that's coming out soon. Anyone has any info on how this works? Is this an external component or does it properly integrate with the idrive?

3) Has anyone contacted BMW directly for a solution?

Thanks.
I've got the Motorola v60 as a built in for my 2002 CL55. It's 4 year old technology. In January a company is coming out with a Bluetooth device to retrofit my Merc and allow me to get rid of the v60, which is a pile of cr@p. (Having AT&T and now Cingular didn't help.) If you want the name of the company PM me.
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Old 11-24-2005, 10:49 AM
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My '04 7 has the v60. I've contacted BMW, on several occasions regarding this issue. The last time I discussed it with BMWNA was in August. At that time, BMWNA told me BMW had made the decision to "get out" of the cell phone business back in 2002, and focus their direction regarding cell phones towards bluetooth, making it "unlikely" BMW would resource very much R & D into bluetooth retrofits.

I had the car in for service last month, and the my local BMW parts manager did some research, spoke with BMWNA, and told me there is no retrofit planned for the '02-'04(early) 7's. Although there have been posts saying a '02-'04 7 retrofit is "coming," the information I've gotten directly from BMW has consistently remained there is not.

It has always been my understanding all the '05's and some of the late build '04 had the ULF module. My local parts manager said that was his understanding as well. There's a post somewhere here regarding a member who owns a late build '04 that came with the ULF module. Check the DOP on the door jamb label. If yours is anytime Dec 04 or later, it should have the ULF module Maybe it's different for US and Canada builds?

As Malibu said, there is a company planning to offer an aftermarket retrofit early in '06. From what I've been able to find, and read about it, it appears it would require professional installation (good luck getting BMW to do the install), and there is very little information as to how it would integrate with iDrive.

My wife and I carry Cingular Razr's, our Jeep is bluetooth. We just leave the v60 in the 7, use it for outgoing calls, and have it forwarded for incoming calls.
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Old 11-24-2005, 02:56 PM
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As Malibu said, there is a company planning to offer an aftermarket retrofit early in '06. From what I've been able to find, and read about it, it appears it would require professional installation (good luck getting BMW to do the install), and there is very little information as to how it would integrate with iDrive.
Try info@connects2usa.com for retrofit info for the v60. The information I obtained was for the Mercedes, because I would like to use only 1 cell phone but am now consigned to the v60 for the Mercedes and the RAZR for the 650i.. Here is what Michelle from the company wrote me:

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We do have a kit coming out within the next few weeks that will fit your 2002 CL55. You will be able to use your Razr phone with that kit as well. The cost for the kit is $850 and it gives you all the features, plus a few extras, that the Mercedes system would give you. You will be able to use steering wheel controls, utilize voice dialing, and see display of calls, lists and phone book with your Comand system. So, I think that will accomplish the goals you have set out. We are getting about 100 pieces for our first order. I have 70 of those spoken for and another 10 of those dedicated to showing the technology to dealerships across the country. So, I have about 20 left of the first order to distribute when it comes in. The second order has a 4-6 week lead time. So, if you want something soon, I suggest going to www.connects2usa.com under the Mercedes tab and placing your order. I will hold credit card info and call for confirmation as soon as the product arrives.
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Old 11-26-2005, 06:28 PM
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I finally found a solution that works for me. I was able to find a knowledgeable technician with Rogers (my cell phone provider here in Canada). He was able to apply my existing number to the BMW phone along with my current phone. Kind of like a family plan but when someone dials my number it first tries my BMW phone. If the car is off, then the call gets automatically directed to my other phone. So that's perfect. The only thing is that I have to get all my numbers somehow transferred to the BMW phone. They can do that for me for a fee of $65 Can.

He also said that using the car phone is better than the bluetooth version. When using bluetooth, you have the same signal strength of your cell phone; where as the car phone has a much stronger signal than a cell phone, because of the is equipped with a much stronger antenna and power.
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Old 11-27-2005, 02:57 PM
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The only thing is that I have to get all my numbers somehow transferred to the BMW phone. They can do that for me for a fee of $65 Can.
I believe you said your main phone is a Motorola Razr. If so, you can use Motorola's MyBackup
https://motorolabackup.tarsin.com/home.htm
If it's available in Canada, you would be able to upload the phone book from your Razr, and then download it to your v60. You'd also be able to maintain both phone's phonebooks online. Cost is $2.95/mo/per phone US.
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Old 11-27-2005, 06:10 PM
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We just leave the v60 in the 7, use it for outgoing calls, and have it forwarded for incoming calls.
That's what I've always done too. Not the best solution, but it's A solution...
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Old 12-10-2005, 07:40 AM
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I checked out the connectusa.com site. If their system works as stated it sounds like a solution. The unit costs $500, but at least it would make the car work with bluetooth phones. Has anyone installed one in their car?

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Old 12-14-2005, 11:09 AM
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Also try www.eiskits.com who also have one coming out.
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Old 12-14-2005, 06:43 PM
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I tried to call connects2usa for two days with no answer. Finally got through to them. They don't have a conversion available for my 04 745li; said they would have one around March. Their website is spotty and the fact that it took so many calls to reach them has me concerned about their viability. Anyone have any experience with them?

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Old 12-30-2005, 11:00 PM
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does one know where one could buy a used BMW phone in canada? i don't mind the V60 because it would stay in the phone 24/7

i see a few on ebay that are TDMA, but i don't believe that is supported by any canadian networks

telus is CDMA and rogers is GSM
anyone think of anyway to help?
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Old 12-31-2005, 10:44 AM
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does one know where one could buy a used BMW phone in canada? i don't mind the V60 because it would stay in the phone 24/7

i see a few on ebay that are TDMA, but i don't believe that is supported by any canadian networks

telus is CDMA and rogers is GSM
anyone think of anyway to help?
Look for a CDMA Mercedes or BMW V60. I have plugged my Mercedes V60 (CDMA Telus) into a BMW and it worked fine.

Did Rogers disable TDMA? I remember also using a Mercedes V60 (TDMA Rogers) in the Mercedes and it worked fine, although reception wasn't the best.

Of course, the newest phones, see:

www.motorolavip.com/

will only work in newer BMWs with bluetooth.
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Old 10-15-2008, 08:17 AM
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BMW sells a Bluetooth adaptor

I have a 2003 BMW745LI and had the same issue. BMW sells a Bluetooth adaptor that plugs into the same spot where the Motorola V60 would plug in. You then can use almost any Bluetooth phone with your BMW. The adaptor sells for just under $300 USD.



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I know this is a repeat issue but I wanted to see if anyone has found out anything new regarding this topic. Here is where I am:

Just 2 days ago I bought a brand new fully loaded 2005 BMW 745Li from a BMW dealership in Canada. I had specifically mentioned to them that I must have a proper built-in phone solution since I need to talk on the phone a lot. They told me that my car uses bluetooth and comes with a Motorola Razor, which I was happy about. However, after the purchase I found out they made a mistake and my car uses another "nice" plugin Motorla phone that should arrive soon. Today they gave me a BMW Motorola v60!!! As you can imagine I am absolutely upset with the BMW dealership for their mistake. I am even more disgusted by BMW itself for using a worthless phone (5 year old technology) for their 2005 top of the line model. I cannot believe that they have not attempted to upgrade their built-in phone software to use a newer version of a Motorola.



Anyway, I am done fuming for now. So before returning my car I want to explore all my options.

1) I read that someone was able to use a motorola v551 instead. Is that still working fine for you? Has anyone else done that successfully?

2) I have also heard about a bluetooth retrofit that's coming out soon. Anyone has any info on how this works? Is this an external component or does it properly integrate with the idrive?

3) Has anyone contacted BMW directly for a solution?

Thanks.
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Old 10-15-2008, 08:42 AM
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I have a 2003 BMW745LI and had the same issue. BMW sells a Bluetooth adaptor that plugs into the same spot where the Motorola V60 would plug in. You then can use almost any Bluetooth phone with your BMW. The adaptor sells for just under $300 USD.
Do you have the P/N? I need to find a solution for my wife's 03 as she ditched the v60 long ago.

Is this what you were referring to?

http://www.bimmernav.com/store/catal...-item-116.html

Never mind. Just p/u one from Bloomfield BMW for $195+$10 S/H

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Old 10-16-2008, 12:04 PM
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I have a 2003 BMW745LI and had the same issue. BMW sells a Bluetooth adaptor that plugs into the same spot where the Motorola V60 would plug in. You then can use almost any Bluetooth phone with your BMW. The adaptor sells for just under $300 USD.
thanks for answering the guy's question from 3 years ago

now thats what i call resurrection
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thanks for answering the guy's question from 3 years ago

now thats what i call resurrection
Well, it helped me out Now I can get my wife off my back without spending too much on a B/T solution.
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Old 10-05-2010, 04:53 PM
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There are two versions of the "BTUM" now available for the new 745 and 760 vehicles that went into production in 2002. The 2002 year came with what BMW calls the CPT8000 (Motorola Timeport) and during the 2003 model year BMW switched to the CPT9000 (Motorola V60).

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Old 10-05-2010, 05:24 PM
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Just get a btum9 bluetooth and it works excllent , thats the upgrade from bmw.
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I just got it for 05 745li . Called a few people to test it all said they thought I was on a landline sound was perfect via my iPhone 4 . My phonebook was pulled up on the i drive at that
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Hey all I just bought this BTUM CPT9000
Plugged it in, connected to my iPhone 3GS everything is great phone book transferred to the car
BUIUUUT.....,,,,,
When I call or some one calls me I can hear them very well but they can't hear me at all
I also tried it with my gf"s blackberry and same problem.
If anyone had a problem like that any advice will be appreciated. Thank you.
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