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Old 11-24-2005, 03:44 PM
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CSL Parts?

I will be importing a trunk, wheels, steering wheel, front bumper, seats from the M3 CLS, for my car. I'm wondering if anyone is interested in any of the parts, so we could save on shipping. All the parts are original, and not available in the states.
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I will be importing a trunk, wheels, steering wheel, front bumper, seats from the M3 CLS, for my car. I'm wondering if anyone is interested in any of the parts, so we could save on shipping. All the parts are original, and not available in the states.
M3 CSL, please...
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Old 11-24-2005, 04:15 PM
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Old 11-24-2005, 04:42 PM
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Fixed the thread title.
Thanks! So no interest in the parts? I'm a new M3 owner, and I think these are the best most exclusive parts available. Am I wrong?

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Old 11-24-2005, 08:06 PM
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Mmmkay....This must be a very slow moving forum
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Old 11-25-2005, 07:14 AM
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I will be importing a trunk, wheels, steering wheel, front bumper, seats from the M3 CLS, for my car. I'm wondering if anyone is interested in any of the parts, so we could save on shipping. All the parts are original, and not available in the states.
From what I've heard they won't ship CSL parts without a valid VIN number. I've seen some parts available, but they are usually quite difficult to come by.
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Old 11-25-2005, 07:57 AM
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From what I've heard they won't ship CSL parts without a valid VIN number. I've seen some parts available, but they are usually quite difficult to come by.

You're right. I have a friend who owns a BMW dealership in Serbia. He says I can get any part I want, in any quatities. What part is most in demand? Trunk Lid? Front Bumper?
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Old 11-26-2005, 04:22 AM
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Bumper is available aftermarket (Turner). Trunk lid is not a big deal.

Can you get an engine? Many people on this forum are MUCH more interested in perforamnce over looks.
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Old 11-26-2005, 06:39 AM
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Bumper is available aftermarket (Turner). Trunk lid is not a big deal.

Can you get an engine? Many people on this forum are MUCH more interested in perforamnce over looks.
engine? the car only makes 30 more hp than a regular M3. I can get any part you want. Also, Turner and others sell fiberglass copies(fitment?) the original parts are carbon fiber

The reason the car is much faster than a regular M3 is due to its low weight, not huge power.If anyone is interested in any parts please email me at sasha18t@yahoo.com

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Old 11-26-2005, 09:22 AM
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Bekkers.com lists some CSL parts, both carbon fiber and suspension. I've also seen discussion about CSL swaybars though Bekkers doesn't list them. Does anyone have experience with the suspension? Got an opinion Terry?
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Old 11-26-2005, 01:59 PM
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But why go with the CSL suspension, when you can get an even better suspension from TC Kline or Ground Control? As for sways, you have your choice of Turner/H&R (same bars, differnet colors0 or Ground Control or RD or UUC or .... I ahve TC Kline DA Konis with 400 pound springs, camber plates and H&R bars (Turner didn't have"theirs" in Turner blue), and the car rides better than stock and handles a WHOLE lot better. And you can crank up the shocks and it handles even better.

As for fiberglass versus carbon for the front bumper, from Turner page:

How much do the bumpers weigh?
Factory CSL (8lbs)
Factory 2001 M3 stock (23lbs)
TMS Fiberglass CSL Style (12lbs)

And a) The CSL actually makes only 17 HP more, since it is DIN HP, and the Euro car makes 343 DIN HP (338 SAE Net). b) The reason the CSL is so much faster is due to the standard tires being Michelin Pilot Sport CUP tires, which are R-comp tires. Easily worth virtually the entire lap time decrease around the Ring. The carbon fiber roof panel would probably the best single thing you could do to a US car, reduce weight a slight amount, but the reduction occurs up high, thus really lowering the center of gravity. c) shipping large parts overseas is NOT going to be cheap.

Other things you can do - Borla exhaust minus 24 pounds and sounds great, Ti exhaust minus 40 pounds, but a LOT more expensive. LW battery minus 20 - 40 pounds. Racing seats, minus about 100 - 120 pounds. Order car without sunroof minus 50 - 70 pounds (and that weight is up high).
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Old 11-26-2005, 02:34 PM
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Thanks for the great summary. I knew you'd have an opinion.
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Old 11-26-2005, 05:36 PM
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BMW has now lifted the VIN needed on CSL parts....I have no problem ordering CSL parts through my dealer with no shipping and a 15% discount. So far I've ordered the CSL sways and the CSL rear diffuser.
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Old 11-26-2005, 05:38 PM
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BMW has now lifted the VIN needed on CSL parts....I have no problem ordering CSL parts through my dealer with no shipping and a 15% discount. So far I've ordered the CSL sways and the CSL rear diffuser.
Very interesting. Do you mind telling us what they cost?
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Old 11-26-2005, 05:50 PM
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Sway bars were around $600 and the rear diffuser was about $800.


Not cheap by any means and the rear diffuser needs to be painted unless your car is silver gray or black, the only 2 colors the CSL came in. Fortunately I'm in good standings with my body shop guy and he painted it for free (I send lots of work to him).


I've found with aftermarket sways, the bushings need to be greased all the time or they start making noises. If you stick with OEM parts, they don't make noise and they fit perfectly.
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Old 11-27-2005, 03:55 AM
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H&Rs don't have a big problem since they have teflon mesh molded into the poly bushing. You could use rubber boshing like stock and have less noise, but then the bar doesn't work as well.

Also some people have installed actual grease fittings in the sway bushings, and just hit them with a grease gun every so often.
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Old 11-27-2005, 01:52 PM
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I do like how the CSL sounds, I'm guessing that's intake noise
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Old 11-28-2005, 03:53 AM
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Probably a good bit of it.

Although Borla exhaust does wonders for the standard M3.
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Old 11-28-2005, 06:03 AM
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Caveat Emptor, gentlemen.

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Old 11-29-2005, 06:04 PM
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Woot! Looks like the parts are a go! Cant wait to fit the new bumper and cf airbox
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Old 11-29-2005, 09:33 PM
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Blah..blah..blah...How much for the intake, motor, exhaust, and ecu??? Me, my trusty sawzaw, and a bottle of acetylene will worry about the weight later on....


Nevermind...there are faster more agile cars out there for the $$$...
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Old 11-29-2005, 11:22 PM
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Assuming you do get any of these parts (which is far from a certainty, despite your continued optimism), fitting the airbox will actually create more problems that it solves.

The CSL works on Alpha-N engine managment; your sled does not. Without this, the airbox is essentially going to be worthless to you -- and there is a lot more to this component than you seem to realize.

I wish you nothing but success, but I'm very familiar with the CSL, and I think a lot of this CSL-conversion business has been grossly oversimplified. Stick with ordering a couple of body panels for now, and see how far you can get with those before shooting for the moon. If this was easy, or inexpensive, or intuitive, everybody would already be doing it.

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Old 11-30-2005, 07:30 AM
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I don't really understand the need to do these things...I would just trade in my car as is, and caugh up the extra dinero to have an authentic one smuggled over...

Either way...It's a damn shame, that we(Loyal BMW enthusiast) cannot have the option...Must be the tree hugging idiots of the judicial system of California(no offense) and their emmissions garbage...that..and BMW's lack of production of the car.....Me and my young mind...are too ignorant to understand why...
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Old 11-30-2005, 09:14 AM
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The key point here is that the CSL was a very limited production vehicle, and unfortunately for us, BWM has to deal with two main markets: the U.S. and the rest of the world. Since the car was built in such small numbers (and it could be sold everywhere else), it made no sense to try to clear our federal DOT/EPA hurdles.

Forget about trying to smuggle one in, too. The CSL VIN reveals it to be a BL95 variant, and that won't show up on any list of importable M3s with U.S. Customs. Our cars are BL93s. Please don't even start down the "well you could switch the VINs," path ... it's all been said before, and it makes absolutely no sense.

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Old 11-30-2005, 09:49 AM
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Forget about trying to smuggle one in, too.
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Already have...I was just making an opinionated statement...I wouldn't butcher a perfectly decent car..I would rather the authentic Real thing..if I was that passionate/dedicated to having a CSL I would go down a different road is all...
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Please don't even start down the "well you could switch the VINs," path ... it's all been said before, and it makes absolutely no sense.
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Nope...wasn't going to...but definately agree with you..pretty sensless
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