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Old 09-16-2002, 04:06 PM
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Audi S4 info

Should be official Audi news...

http://news.kak.net/modules.php?op=m...rticle&sid=395

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Old 09-16-2002, 04:08 PM
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For the lazy-

344hp V8
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no info on weight


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Old 09-16-2002, 04:11 PM
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Heehee, imagine when they figure out how to cram the RS6's twinturbos into that sucker and make a RS4.
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Old 09-16-2002, 05:08 PM
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For the lazy-

344hp V8
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no info on weight


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I don't get the lazy thing....all you need to do is click on the link, and the info appears. Is that difficult?
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Old 09-16-2002, 05:14 PM
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Old 09-16-2002, 05:19 PM
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Old 09-16-2002, 05:24 PM
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I wonder if they'll offer it in a coupe trim - now that would be HOT!!

344hp is pretty impressive. Wonder if the price will be less than the M3. Audi's nearly always cost less than their BMW counterparts...
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Old 09-16-2002, 05:27 PM
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I wonder if they'll offer it in a coupe trim - now that would be HOT!!

No coupe A4 yet so I dont expect a S4 coupe anytime soon. Coupe would be too direct of competition to M3

I have seen some people to lazy to scan through a article before, I guess more of a summary then
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Old 09-16-2002, 05:31 PM
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But what the hell are the things on the door?

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(I think the M3 has 333hp, not 343)
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Old 09-16-2002, 05:39 PM
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(I think the M3 has 333hp, not 343)
M3 has 343 bhp in Europe, these are Euro numbers for the S4 also
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Old 09-16-2002, 05:52 PM
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Heehee, imagine when they figure out how to cram the RS6's twinturbos into that sucker and make a RS4.
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But what the hell are the things on the door?

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(I think the M3 has 333hp, not 343)
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Old 09-16-2002, 06:23 PM
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I like the new A4's styling, but I don't think it's as sporty or aggressive as it should be in S trim. My money's still on the M3, particularly if they release a 4-door variant in the near future. And heck...with Audi bringing this beast to market, I don't see what BMW's waiting for. This is quickly turning into the German version of the "Camaro vs. Mustang" rivalry that turned out some KILLER cars over the years.
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Old 09-16-2002, 06:37 PM
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Heehee, imagine when they figure out how to cram the RS6's twinturbos into that sucker and make a RS4.
Warp speed, Mr. Sulu...

I thought I heard that in the very near future, there will be a V8 M3??

Although Turbo's have phenominal performance gains, I'd much rather have a normally aspirated engine which has the same power output...
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Old 09-16-2002, 07:52 PM
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I like the new A4's styling, but I don't think it's as sporty or aggressive as it should be in S trim. My money's still on the M3, particularly if they release a 4-door variant in the near future.
No 4 door or wagon M3 from BMW... the S4 is as close as you'll get. I think the styling exactly defines classic german auto design.

BMW has lost it's way with the E46 design and the M3 screams "look at me". The S4's will be the ultimate sleeper german muscle car. With a *reliable* 300+hp... BMW won't know what hit them. Sign me up.
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No 4 door or wagon M3 from BMW... the S4 is as close as you'll get. I think the styling exactly defines classic german auto design.

BMW has lost it's way with the E46 design and the M3 screams "look at me". The S4's will be the ultimate sleeper german muscle car. With a *reliable* 300+hp... BMW won't know what hit them. Sign me up.
the new S4 still won't touch the M3 in performance. 5.4 0-60? That's at least a half-second slower. And I'm guessing it will weigh at LEAST 3600, maybe as much as 3800 pounds! I would think BMW is at these numbers.

The guys at audiworld sure are pissed at the performance specs. Too much hype and Audi didn't meet ANY of the expectations.

and my 300+HP has been VERY reliable.
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Yes, but I hate coupes. And I'm used to heavy. And I want a fast ass wagon! The S4 Avant would make for one kick ass grocery getter.
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the new S4 still won't touch the M3 in performance. 5.4 0-60? That's at least a half-second slower. And I'm guessing it will weigh at LEAST 3600, maybe as much as 3800 pounds! I would think BMW is at these numbers.

The guys at audiworld sure are pissed at the performance specs. Too much hype and Audi didn't meet ANY of the expectations.

and my 300+HP has been VERY reliable.
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Old 09-16-2002, 08:12 PM
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Still with Audi.... AWD

If they had a RWD S4 with a better rear suspension then the M3 would have something to worry about.

But right now, it's still easy sailin for all the BMWs in every class, every price range. They may be more expensive but damn... aren't they worth it?

Audi needs a weightloss program and a RWD implementation then I can consider them as a 'sports car'. Audi wants to have their cake and eat it too with a sports car.... can't have it both ways.
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Old 09-16-2002, 08:36 PM
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Still with Audi.... AWD

If they had a RWD S4 with a better rear suspension then the M3 would have something to worry about.

But right now, it's still easy sailin for all the BMWs in every class, every price range. They may be more expensive but damn... aren't they worth it?

Audi needs a weightloss program and a RWD implementation then I can consider them as a 'sports car'. Audi wants to have their cake and eat it too with a sports car.... can't have it both ways.
Sure you can. Do what I'm going to do. Get an S4. And keep the M3 convertible.

When it's time to say goodbye to the GTI, the S4 is likely the car that will replace it. AWD gives all-weather mobility, and there's simply nothing like a V8.

Will it beat an M3, either in a straight line or in the corner? Probably not, but then again, Audi's strategy with the previous generation S4 was to bracket the M3 with the S4 on the low end and the RS4 on the high end. I'd be surprised if an RS4 weren't forthcoming shortly. Besides, the Audi has something the BMW doesn't: 4 doors. In a practical, second car, that's an absolute must.
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Sure you can. Do what I'm going to do. Get an S4. And keep the M3 convertible.

When it's time to say goodbye to the GTI, the S4 is likely the car that will replace it. AWD gives all-weather mobility, and there's simply nothing like a V8.

Will it beat an M3, either in a straight line or in the corner? Probably not, but then again, Audi's strategy with the previous generation S4 was to bracket the M3 with the S4 on the low end and the RS4 on the high end. I'd be surprised if an RS4 weren't forthcoming shortly. Besides, the Audi has something the BMW doesn't: 4 doors. In a practical, second car, that's an absolute must.
RS4 is not coming to the states, and also it's Avant format only. The M3 is just about tied with its speed, however Top Gear did a review (UK) and they weren't happy with it, but they thoroughly enjoyed its power.

The gearchange sucked and it understeered a lot as per the reviewer. "I want to have more fun... but I can't!" were his lines
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