Welcome to Bimmerfest -- The #1 Online Community for BMW related information! Please enjoy the discussion forums below and share your experiences with the 200,000 current, new and past BMW owners. The forums are broken out by car model and into other special interest sections such as BMW European Delivery and a special forum to voice your questions to the many BMW dealers on the site to assist our members!

Please follow the links below to help get you started!

Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 7 Series / 8 Series > 7 Series - E65 / E66 (2002 - 2008)

7 Series - E65 / E66 (2002 - 2008)
Discussion pertaining to the flagship BMW here.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-11-2006, 10:39 AM
chowan24 chowan24 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Boston, MA.
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 103
Send a message via AIM to chowan24 Send a message via Yahoo to chowan24
Mein Auto: 745i
02-05 Phone lovers Dream?

In about 2 hrs. my friends I will be able to report back and tell you if you can tell BMW to hell with their $1000 + retro bluetooth thingie and stay with your Startac. I'll give all details in about 2 hours if this works.....
__________________
Rudy Crichlow, Jr.
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage
(617) 406-8304
Reply With Quote
Ads by Google
  #2  
Old 01-11-2006, 12:04 PM
chowan24 chowan24 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Boston, MA.
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 103
Send a message via AIM to chowan24 Send a message via Yahoo to chowan24
Mein Auto: 745i
Quote:
Originally Posted by chowan24
In about 2 hrs. my friends I will be able to report back and tell you if you can tell BMW to hell with their $1000 + retro bluetooth thingie and stay with your Startac. I'll give all details in about 2 hours if this works.....
I need 2 more hrs. i'll be back with details....
__________________
Rudy Crichlow, Jr.
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage
(617) 406-8304
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-11-2006, 06:24 PM
chowan24 chowan24 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Boston, MA.
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 103
Send a message via AIM to chowan24 Send a message via Yahoo to chowan24
Mein Auto: 745i
Quote:
Originally Posted by chowan24
I need 2 more hrs. i'll be back with details....
Yes , i'm still waiting. i'm having a slight activation problem
__________________
Rudy Crichlow, Jr.
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage
(617) 406-8304
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-12-2006, 06:10 AM
chowan24 chowan24 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Boston, MA.
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 103
Send a message via AIM to chowan24 Send a message via Yahoo to chowan24
Mein Auto: 745i
Quote:
Originally Posted by chowan24
Yes , i'm still waiting. i'm having a slight activation problem
I have to go and get my phone software updated, and then my Timeport should be activated. I already have a phone # though....
__________________
Rudy Crichlow, Jr.
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage
(617) 406-8304
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-12-2006, 08:18 PM
gearh0 gearh0 is offline
Registered User
Location: vancouver
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 39
Mein Auto: 745 Li
is this a bmw timeport or a non?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-13-2006, 10:55 AM
chowan24 chowan24 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Boston, MA.
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 103
Send a message via AIM to chowan24 Send a message via Yahoo to chowan24
Mein Auto: 745i
Quote:
Originally Posted by gearh0
is this a bmw timeport or a non?
we are all screwed. even if you have a BMW Timeport if it does not have software version 7058 it can't be activated but a phone number can be given. that doesn't help. software version i believe 6324 would have worked but since you can port your old number to new services it can't. why cant a non bmw timeport be recognized by idrive.
__________________
Rudy Crichlow, Jr.
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage
(617) 406-8304
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-14-2006, 08:49 AM
kd2789mo kd2789mo is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: MO
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 433
Mein Auto: Radio Flyer Z38/5.7m
Quote:
Originally Posted by chowan24
why cant a non bmw timeport be recognized by idrive.
"BMW" branded phones have a different firmware version. This version of firmware is what enables the Motorola product to interface with iDrive. If you're interested enough, you can gain more information by contacting Motorola, and speaking with one of their Portable Phone Software Engineer techs.

The BMW version of firmware is written by Motorola, to BMW specs. Conceivably, Motorola could install the firmware in any timeport. Because of contractual agreements, and copyright protection, they will only install it in BMW branded phones.
__________________
Kd
----------------
04 745Li Silver/Grey, 19" Star, LOGIC7, CWP, Adaptive Cruise, LSP, CP, PDC, Shades, Xenon, Sirius
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-14-2006, 11:02 PM
bimmer7's Avatar
bimmer7 bimmer7 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Canada
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,080
Mein Auto: M3 Cab, 760Li, '08 LX570
Cool

Quote:
Originally Posted by kd2789mo
"BMW" branded phones have a different firmware version. This version of firmware is what enables the Motorola product to interface with iDrive. If you're interested enough, you can gain more information by contacting Motorola, and speaking with one of their Portable Phone Software Engineer techs.

The BMW version of firmware is written by Motorola, to BMW specs. Conceivably, Motorola could install the firmware in any timeport. Because of contractual agreements, and copyright protection, they will only install it in BMW branded phones.
So is it possible to install firmware software in another Motorola phone such as the V3682? which plugs into our 745's (02-05) as I have tried it with my V3682.. charges it but obviously doesnt get detected by I-drive.. thus making it non branded by BMW
The reason i ask is because it was released around the same time as the TimePort series... but is a GSM phone!
__________________

2008 M3 Cab -- Alpine White, Blk Novillo
2005 760Li Individual -- Azurite Blk, Platinum Merino, ED
2002 745Li -- Sold
2000 750iL -- Sold
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-15-2006, 11:09 AM
kd2789mo kd2789mo is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: MO
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 433
Mein Auto: Radio Flyer Z38/5.7m
Quote:
Originally Posted by bimmer7
So is it possible to install firmware software in another Motorola phone such as the V3682? which plugs into our 745's (02-05) as I have tried it with my V3682.. charges it but obviously doesnt get detected by I-drive.. thus making it non branded by BMW
The reason i ask is because it was released around the same time as the TimePort series... but is a GSM phone!
Surely it is physically possible, Motorola can put any version of available firmware in one of their phones.
Motorola would have to have developed a BMW specific firmware for the V3682/GSM, and would have to be contracted with BMW to provide it.

Last year, I found Motorola's tech support both willing and helpful discussing BMW phone applications, and it was not at all difficult to navigate through their phone system to get to talk to someone.
Perhaps a call to them would be beneficial to you also.
__________________
Kd
----------------
04 745Li Silver/Grey, 19" Star, LOGIC7, CWP, Adaptive Cruise, LSP, CP, PDC, Shades, Xenon, Sirius
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-15-2006, 11:24 PM
gearh0 gearh0 is offline
Registered User
Location: vancouver
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 39
Mein Auto: 745 Li
i have ordered a non bmw timeport for 30 bucks (cheap lesson) and am hoping it will work. i have heard reports that non bmw phones have worked.

not address book etc but you can dial from the car phone and the handsfree works
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01-16-2006, 05:17 AM
triple_sissy's Avatar
triple_sissy triple_sissy is offline
Peter
Location: Chicago, IL
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 266
Mein Auto: '03 German Panther Li
It sure DIDN'T work with mine - none of the hands-free features. I had to buy a BMW phone to make it work.
__________________
Peter

Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 01-27-2006, 06:57 AM
bimmer7's Avatar
bimmer7 bimmer7 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Canada
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,080
Mein Auto: M3 Cab, 760Li, '08 LX570
745 - Phone

Quote:
Originally Posted by gearh0
i have ordered a non bmw timeport for 30 bucks (cheap lesson) and am hoping it will work. i have heard reports that non bmw phones have worked.

not address book etc but you can dial from the car phone and the handsfree works
Okay.. well can you post which phone and model specifically you talking about
Because I went to my dealer and they said ... only the CPT8000 TimePort can work... Like I said earlier I got aq V3682 to plug in since its GSM.. but sadly no programming can be done by BMW Canada.... ...anyways let us know if you got your phone to work...
__________________

2008 M3 Cab -- Alpine White, Blk Novillo
2005 760Li Individual -- Azurite Blk, Platinum Merino, ED
2002 745Li -- Sold
2000 750iL -- Sold
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01-27-2006, 03:16 PM
chowan24 chowan24 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Boston, MA.
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 103
Send a message via AIM to chowan24 Send a message via Yahoo to chowan24
Mein Auto: 745i
not possible at has to have bmw software version 7058 (CPT 8000)
__________________
Rudy Crichlow, Jr.
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage
(617) 406-8304
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 01-27-2006, 04:59 PM
BayAreaBMWFan BayAreaBMWFan is offline
Back in California
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 3,251
Mein Auto: '12 328 Vert; '09 Odyssey
Is it possible to extract the firmware from a BMW phone and then install it on a different phone?
__________________
2012 328Ci Black/Black ZPP
2011 528 Black/Black Retired ZPP ZP2 BMW Apps
2005 330Ci SparkGraphite/Gray Retired ZHP, Step, Nav, Xenon, Heated Seats, PDC
2007 X3 3.0si AlpiWhite/Tobacco ED Retired Step, ZSP, ZPP, ZCW, PDC, Nav, Xenon, Privacy Glass, Servotronic, Cargo Net
2002 745Li Slate Green Metallic/Beige Retired; Perfect baby-hauler
2006 525 TiAg/Black Retired
2004 3.0 Z4 Black/Black/Black SMG Retired
2003 525iA TiAg/Gray Retired;King of all Bimmers, the E39
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 01-27-2006, 08:37 PM
kd2789mo kd2789mo is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: MO
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 433
Mein Auto: Radio Flyer Z38/5.7m
Quote:
Originally Posted by BayAreaBMWFan
Is it possible to extract the firmware from a BMW phone and then install it on a different phone?
Firmware installs are encrypted. Most likely, only software engineering of the phone manufacturer would be able to do so.
__________________
Kd
----------------
04 745Li Silver/Grey, 19" Star, LOGIC7, CWP, Adaptive Cruise, LSP, CP, PDC, Shades, Xenon, Sirius
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 01-28-2006, 12:53 AM
gearh0 gearh0 is offline
Registered User
Location: vancouver
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 39
Mein Auto: 745 Li
please note i said above that i had heard it would work , i bought a non bmw timeport and plugging it in simply charges the phone, NO interaction with Idrive, useless
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 01-29-2006, 12:47 PM
chowan24 chowan24 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Boston, MA.
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 103
Send a message via AIM to chowan24 Send a message via Yahoo to chowan24
Mein Auto: 745i
Quote:
Originally Posted by kd2789mo
Firmware installs are encrypted. Most likely, only software engineering of the phone manufacturer would be able to do so.
If you could get the software it could be done. encrypted or not a software upgrade would do it. its software not and encryption. Timport software is 6358 I believe BMW is 7058....
__________________
Rudy Crichlow, Jr.
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage
(617) 406-8304
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Forum Navigation
Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 7 Series / 8 Series > 7 Series - E65 / E66 (2002 - 2008)
Today's Posts Search
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Phone and Roof Spoiler- 02' 745LI DBADBMW 7 Series / 8 Series 2 07-13-2005 03:39 PM
'02 330ci bumper vs. '05 330ci's OrientBlau E46 (1999 - 2006) 3 02-09-2005 03:07 PM
Gas Mileage comparison: 05 vs 02 525 i? Engine change? pac 5 Series 3 01-27-2004 11:16 AM
New Digicam - 02 TiAg Sedan, TiAg lovers only ; ) ObD Automotive / Photography 0 10-27-2002 12:20 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:31 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
© 2001-2011 performanceIX, Inc. All Rights Reserved .: guidelines .:. privacy .:. terms