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Old 05-10-2013, 07:12 AM
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Will it become illegal to drive slow in the fast lane?

Enforcing existing rules of driving should be the solution, but his law specifically address fast lane hoggers. 10 miles slower? How about driving below the speed limit and impeding normal flow of traffic? Anything to get Sunday driver out of the fast lane is good.

Will it become illegal to drive slow in the fast lane? In Florida it might
By Alex Lloyd | Motoramic – 15 hours ago

How many times have you cursed at drivers crawling along in the fast lane, way below the posted speed limit? It must be one of the most frustrating circumstances you can encounter when driving, not to mention the innate dangers it presents. If there's ever a situation that could provoke road rage, it's being held up by an ignorant motorist, pointlessly blocking the passing lane. But if you live in Florida, this issue could potentially be solved, as the Florida House and Senate have passed a bill that would make it illegal to drive slowly in the fast lane.

The so-called "road rage" bill is reportedly years in the making, and it was pushed through, in part, by Sen. Jeff Brandes of St. Petersburg: "I think it's going to make us a little bit safer," Brandes predicts.

The bill proposes that if you drive 10 mph or more below the posted speed limit, while dawdling in the left hand lane, the penalty would be a $60 fine. The law would be in effect for any road with two or more lanes.

Of course, the Governor has to pass this legislation for it to take effect, and the question lingers as to whether it would truly deter those making a habit of clogging up the left hand lane. While a straight "fix" remains impossible, and this may not be the easiest of crimes to police, it's a solid step in the right direction to eliminating unnecessary automotive vexations.

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It's a nice thought but even if they pass something like that here, there is no reason to believe it will actually be enforced. Every day I see people driving alone in the carpool lane and nobody ever gets pulled over. If you can't manage to uphold a law as simple as that you are going add a law that requires you to radar the car first? I don't think so.
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Will it become illegal to drive slow in the fast lane?

Simply stated, if there is no one in front of you but someone behind you while you are in the far left lane then you are in the wrong lane. Move over and let others go.


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It takes 10mph under to get a ticket? Around here, the problem people are those doing the speed limit (or even 5 mph over) in the left lane. We in Illinois already have a "slower-traffic-must-keep-right" law, but its rarely (if ever) enforced.
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This should be punishable by death. I think people would catch on real quick
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Enforcing existing rules of driving should be the solution, but his law specifically address fast lane hoggers. 10 miles slower? How about driving below the speed limit and impeding normal flow of traffic? Anything to get Sunday driver out of the fast lane is good.

Will it become illegal to drive slow in the fast lane? In Florida it might
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How many times have you cursed at drivers crawling along in the fast lane, way below the posted speed limit? It must be one of the most frustrating circumstances you can encounter when driving, not to mention the innate dangers it presents. If there's ever a situation that could provoke road rage, it's being held up by an ignorant motorist, pointlessly blocking the passing lane. But if you live in Florida, this issue could potentially be solved, as the Florida House and Senate have passed a bill that would make it illegal to drive slowly in the fast lane.

The so-called "road rage" bill is reportedly years in the making, and it was pushed through, in part, by Sen. Jeff Brandes of St. Petersburg: "I think it's going to make us a little bit safer," Brandes predicts.

The bill proposes that if you drive 10 mph or more below the posted speed limit, while dawdling in the left hand lane, the penalty would be a $60 fine. The law would be in effect for any road with two or more lanes.

Of course, the Governor has to pass this legislation for it to take effect, and the question lingers as to whether it would truly deter those making a habit of clogging up the left hand lane. While a straight "fix" remains impossible, and this may not be the easiest of crimes to police, it's a solid step in the right direction to eliminating unnecessary automotive vexations.

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And what happens when the "normal flow of traffic is 15MPH above the speed limit and someone is traveling only 5 MPH above the speed limit? can he be ticketed for going too fast AND too slow at the same time?

I can probably count the number of times I've encountered a guy in the left lane travelling below the speed limit on one hand. Most people who complain about Left Lane hogs are people who want to pass people already exceeding the speed limit and find themselves blocked by cars in the Right lane as well. I don't have a lot fo sympathy for people who say, in effect "I want to break the law and the people who get in my way are the a-holes".

having said that, I would prefer a system more like the Germans, where there are speed limits, they are reasonable for the traffic, ie 130 not 100 and when conditions permit, they allow unlimited speed and expect both lane discipline and no Right Lane passing.

To me, these three go hand in hand (in hand), if you want left lane discipline, you must not implement arbitrary speed limits and you must eliminate Right lane passing.

Then you can call the guy in the left hand lane doing 100KPH whatever you want.

But to my way of thinking, you don't get to complain about a guy doing 120 because he is afraid of a speeding ticket as he tries to creep past a guy doing 115 as you come up his rear doing 140.
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I think the issue is when people in the left lane are not moving faster than traffic to their right, even if they are doing the speed limit. These people are your "holier-than -thou" types who feel empowered to enforce speed limits on those who might want to go a little faster, and take their chances. It's a dangerous practice, which is why some States have enacted "Left lane for Passing Only" laws. The German example is the best scenario, but our present system tends to generate much more revenue for our cash strapped local governments, which is why it will never change.
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But to my way of thinking, you don't get to complain about a guy doing 120 because he is afraid of a speeding ticket as he tries to creep past a guy doing 115 as you come up his rear doing 140.
That's where you differ from most of us here. The guy in the left doing 120 can either speed up to 125 for a few seconds and then merge over, or slow down to 110 for a few seconds and pull in behind the the 115 guy. That's what I do when faster traffic approaches me while I'm temporarily in the left lane passing someone. Its all about courtesy.
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Simply stated, if there is no one in front of you but someone behind you while you are in the far left lane then you are in the wrong lane. Move over and let others go.


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All these dipsh1ts driving slow in the left lane holding up traffic NEED and SHOULD be fined or simply stay off highways. How many times have I seen clowns holding up traffic for no good reason other than driving slow.

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Even if it becomes a law, this will be difficult to enforce.
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That's where you differ from most of us here. The guy in the left doing 120 can either speed up to 125 for a few seconds and then merge over, or slow down to 110 for a few seconds and pull in behind the the 115 guy. That's what I do when faster traffic approaches me while I'm temporarily in the left lane passing someone. Its all about courtesy.
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All these dipsh1ts driving slow in the left lane holding up traffic NEED and SHOULD be fined or simply stay off highways. How many times have I seen clowns holding up traffic for no good reason other than driving slow.

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The road was not build for you to speed on. if by slow TX, you mean less than the posted limit, then I agree.

But otherwise I don't think you can call a guy a dipsh1ts if he is speeding himself and trying to pass a long line of cars in the RH lane (who are also probably speeding) or that he should risk a ticket or drive faster than he is comfortable driving or try to wedge himself in between a couple of cars in the RH lane (possibly forcing someone in the RH lane to brake to regain a safe following distance) just because you are comfortable breaking the speed limit by a greater margin.
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Look, it is my God given right as a natural born American to do 10 over on any interstate. Anyone impeding me in the left lane oughta be pulled over and ticketed. If'n someone wants to do 15 over, or more, it is incumbent on me to clear the way for him, count to three, then pull in behind him and speed match him to let him clear the cops. If you can't do 20 or 25 over, with someone trailbreaking the fuzz for you, you need to hand in your BMW card.

Why, just this very day, coming home from Stew Leonard's with a pair of racks of lamb for dinner, I was content to sit in the middle lane, doing a mere 20 over, so as not to impede people who had to make time.
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Here's the drivers I hate the most. When I am doing 10-15 mph over the speed limit in the left lane someone will come racing up behind me. To be courteous I'll adjust my speed to pull into the lane to the right after which the car that came racing up will either slow down and never pass or take 20 minutes to get by and then hold me up after I pull back into the left lane. Sometimes it just doesn't pay to be courteous.
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Here's the drivers I hate the most. When I am doing 10-15 mph over the speed limit in the left lane someone will come racing up behind me. To be courteous I'll adjust my speed to pull into the lane to the right after which the car that came racing up will either slow down and never pass or take 20 minutes to get by and then hold me up after I pull back into the left lane. Sometimes it just doesn't pay to be courteous.
Haha! I feel your pain.

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All I'm saying is "common sense" (which is severely lacking in todays society) should say, "I'm impeding traffic by holding up traffic in the left lane if folks are on my ass." If I'm doing 15 or 20 over and someone is coming up, I have no prob getting over. Why not?

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solution is much more simple, make it harder to get the drivers license. there is AT lest 20% of people on the road that are not adequate for driving.
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THIS!!!

All these dipsh1ts driving slow in the left lane holding up traffic NEED and SHOULD be fined or simply stay off highways. How many times have I seen clowns holding up traffic for no good reason other than driving slow.

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The even more arrogant ones with lack more etiquette will even flip you the bird or speed up if you try and go around them,simply flash a light once or twice to let them know that someone behind them wishes to pass,or a slight tap on the horn to let them know that someone behind them wishes to pass or even if you turn your left blinker on to let them know that someone wishes to pass on the left.



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Enforcing existing rules of driving should be the solution, but his law specifically address fast lane hoggers. 10 miles slower? How about driving below the speed limit and impeding normal flow of traffic? Anything to get Sunday driver out of the fast lane is good.

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How many times have you cursed at drivers crawling along in the fast lane, way below the posted speed limit?
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All these dipsh1ts driving slow in the left lane holding up traffic NEED and SHOULD be fined or simply stay off highways. How many times have I seen clowns holding up traffic for no good reason other than driving slow.

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they are not driving slow. they are driving slower than you.

You are breaking the speeding limit if you are going faster than 65.

I drive faster than 65 too. But I don't hold it against anyone if they want to follow the speed limit.
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And what happens when the "normal flow of traffic is 15MPH above the speed limit and someone is traveling only 5 MPH above the speed limit? can he be ticketed for going too fast AND too slow at the same time?

I can probably count the number of times I've encountered a guy in the left lane travelling below the speed limit on one hand.
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Most people who complain about Left Lane hogs are people who want to pass people already exceeding the speed limit and find themselves blocked by cars in the Right lane as well. I don't have a lot fo sympathy for people who say, in effect "I want to break the law and the people who get in my way are the a-holes".
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having said that, I would prefer a system more like the Germans, where there are speed limits, they are reasonable for the traffic, ie 130 not 100 and when conditions permit, they allow unlimited speed and expect both lane discipline and no Right Lane passing.
Having lived and driven for 3 years in germany, yup thrice.

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To me, these three go hand in hand (in hand), if you want left lane discipline, you must not implement arbitrary speed limits and you must eliminate Right lane passing.

Then you can call the guy in the left hand lane doing 100KPH whatever you want.

But to my way of thinking, you don't get to complain about a guy doing 120 because he is afraid of a speeding ticket as he tries to creep past a guy doing 115 as you come up his rear doing 140.
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I find that our main interstate here (which is 70mph) has most folks doing 65 in the left lane, even when there is light traffic and plenty of room to be in the center/right. I am not a flasher, a tailgater, nor a honker...I just patiently wait until they move over. It is annoying but there are many more important things in this world to be annoyed about than the guy/gal who is too busy on the phone to realize that he/she is holding up traffic.
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solution is much more simple, make it harder to get the drivers license. there is AT lest 20% of people on the road that are not adequate for driving.
I actually like this concept. Too bad it is just that...

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they are not driving slow. they are driving slower than you.

You are breaking the speeding limit if you are going faster than 65.

I drive faster than 65 too. But I don't hold it against anyone if they want to follow the speed limit.

Uhhhm sorry... There are Posted speeds where I drive of 75. Neither do I... Unless they are holding me or traffic moving faster up. And even THEN... If someone is driving or wants to drive faster, move over! Same goes for me. Why not???
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