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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 11-09-2014, 04:18 PM
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Fan Clutch Brand

Hi Gang,

A couple issues have shown up in the last couple days. I need to replace my CCV and I think my fan clutch is shot.

I installed a new Behr fan clutch and new BMW brand fan on 8/22/2013 @ 135,550 miles. The issue was noticed 11/8/14 with 147,820 miles.

I noted a bit of a grinding noise and felt oil all over the front and rear surface of the fan clutch. I removed the fan and clutch and started the car and the noise is no longer occurring.

Apparently the Behr clutch is rubbish. I seem to remember reading that Sachs' fan clutch is much better, however I don't think they make it for the 540. (if they do I sure can't find one).

What is your opinion on brand for this part? I know the OE part with the BMW label also has the Behr label, so I am not inclined to go with them. I read several reviews on Pelicanparts.com for the Behr clutch where customers had issues with this part after a similar amount of miles.

What is the right solution here? Should I go for an electric fan solution or should I buy another Behr and hope to get a good one? What are your thoughts wise board members!?

Thanks,

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Old 11-09-2014, 09:06 PM
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There may be information about clutch brands here:
- What brand is the OEM part original equipment manufacturer for your BMW (1) & what parts & supplies are best to buy OEM (1)

See also:
- How long can you drive your BMW E39 with the viscous fan clutch removed (1)
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Old 11-09-2014, 09:10 PM
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Hmmm I think the E39s all have the same clutch.. Did you check RM Europen? They had Sachs for 113
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Old 11-09-2014, 09:37 PM
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Thank you both! DeGraff, I looked at RM and didn't see it for a 540. I did see that they have the Sachs for the I6 engines.

Thanks Bluebee, that makes me feel a little better about driving a few days until the part comes in. I have a strenuous 1.5 mile, 5 min drive to work each day so I think I can manage without a main fan

I ended up buying a Borg Warner fan clutch. I figured it can't be any worse than the Behr part, and will hopefully be better! I'll report back later and let you know what I think about it.

Thanks again.

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I have not heard of issues with Behr E39 fan clutches prematurely failing. I have definitely heard of old ones, with over 100,000 miles failing. I have gotten 123,000 miles out of my original before preventatively replacing. And recently replaced that one at 100,000 miles preventatively. Understand like all products, there are always outliers. I would not necessarily base ones purchase decision on a single outlier....though I can completely understand your trepidation. But unless or until we see a rash of failures, I would have stuck with the oem product. I will certainly report if I have troubles.
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Behr fan clutch fails like clockwork. Search forum and you will see.

My Sachs Fan Clutch was installed May 2006, 8 years later still fine.
This is for my M52 I6 engine, V8 fan clutch PN is different, but I think Sachs is a good brand.
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Behr fan clutch fails like clockwork. Search forum and you will see.

My Sachs Fan Clutch was installed May 2006, 8 years later still fine.
This is for my M52 I6 engine, V8 fan clutch PN is different, but I think Sachs is a good brand.
First, I am sure the Sachs clutch is an entirely fine recommendation, and can and should be used. But I am unsure the Behr is as problematic as stated. I took your advice and did a quick search of the forum, and to be honest, I didn't find a lot of Behr premature failures. There are failures, but being OEM, of course, more people will report failures (lets face the fact that 90% or more of E39s have the Behr clutch)...but from all the threads I found on the first two pages of my search, they are either no indications of mileage, or noted high miles.

Did find a Sachs that failed at 40k miles (again, probably an outlier for Sachs too, and not their normal quality)
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...71&postcount=1

I found a quote from technician "Burning2nd" and his opinion is both Behr AND Sachs suck... lol

BTW, almost all the Behr parts I recently purchased for my cooling system overhaul where made in Germany. Exceptions were the radiator (south Africa, which I believe all Behr radiators are now sourced), expansion tank cap (Austria) and the expansion tank was China, but I exchanged it for a Behr from the BMW dealer, which was (apparently) German. For some parts sold on the aftermarket, Behr (and other suppliers like Conti-Tech) do appear to occasionally use alternate sources in China, Turkey and eastern Europe.

Thanks again for all of your excellent posts and DIY threads...awesome stuff
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