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Old 07-04-2006, 11:02 AM
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I actually considered the IS350, and was ready to go test drive it, etc. When I told my girlfriend, she said "Get another BMW, instead. It saved you in the accident, I think it has more unique qualities, features, and design, the IS looks too much like a Camry (still!!), and besides, I don't like Lexus in general." Another reason why I love her so much.
My wife would agree 100% with your girlfriend!
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Old 07-04-2006, 11:11 AM
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I don't know what all the comotion is about. Personally, I think while the IS350 might have a more powerful engine than the 3 series, that's about all it has over the 3. It has an interior that is so inferior to BMWs that I couldn't even drive inside it for more than a minute. The only thing I like about the interior is the instrument gauges. And Lexus's touch-screen navigation system is horrid. Seriously, I'd much rather have iDrive with a control knob than a Lexus nav system with a touch-screen and all of those damn fingerprints on the screen everytime you touch it. To confirm my thoughts I'll go test drive a Lexus IS350 this week and let you guys know what I think. I've been inside one before but never did the test drive.
Is this sarcasim or a joke? I cannot think of a worse nav in 2006 then in the BMW. My PDA with Tomcat is better. BMW is way behind in nav almost as behind as it is advanced in engine and suspension engineering. BMW can also learn something about quality leather from Lexus.
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i drove the IS250 and it was nice and quiet and all that....

I'm not a big car driver person but I can feel the difference between the IS and the 325i. it just felt like something was missing. road feel maybe, just felt disconnected somehow.
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I thought the IS350 was terrific inside, and I loved the nav system. The back seat (I need to fit child seats), lack of a MT, and lesser steering feel were my biggest hangups.
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Old 07-04-2006, 12:55 PM
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To me, the real nail in the coffin for the IS350 or any Lexus for that matter is the ordering/purchasing process.

Good luck getting one built to your preferences without $7,000 options packages loaded with useless, gimmicky little items. For my Lexus dealership, accommodating as they were, finding a black on tan IS350 with sport package and HID was too much to ask for. Unless I wanted to pay MSRP and wait three or more months in the hope that the factory would acknowledge my custom order in a somewhat timely fashion - and that wasn't happening.
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Old 07-04-2006, 03:06 PM
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I seriously have to question whether you even drove the IS350. Are you sure it wasn't the ES350 you drove?
You know what... I have the same feeling as you do. I believe he got ES350 instead.... especially the venting seat option.
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Old 07-04-2006, 03:47 PM
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You are correct. Damn, I must have been feeling rear wheel spin. Wow I was blaming some of the lack of feel on it being a front wheel car I guess I need to blame it on something else.
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Old 07-04-2006, 04:15 PM
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Is this sarcasim or a joke? I cannot think of a worse nav in 2006 then in the BMW. My PDA with Tomcat is better. BMW is way behind in nav almost as behind as it is advanced in engine and suspension engineering. BMW can also learn something about quality leather from Lexus.
No joke what so ever. And I think the iDrive system is great. Honestly, I don't see how it could be much easier. Everyone talks about how the iDrive system is way over complicated. I guess that's for those that haven't used a computer since they've been alive. My mom has a Lexus GX470 and I find the navigation system on there to be at least 3X as complicated at the one in my 3er. One feature I LOVE (freakin LOVE!!!) about the iDrive system is that is doesn't lock you out and put you in the dumbass in-motion menu like other cars which allows you to basically do nothing. I won't use the iDrive while I'm driving unless I feel confident about it and I'm glad the system allows me to use my own judgment on when to use it. Unlike Lexus, Jeep and Audi.
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Old 07-04-2006, 04:25 PM
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BMW can also learn something about quality leather from Lexus.
My understanding is that Europe has much stricter environmental laws regarding how they can treat the leather. This causes the BMW leather to be much harder to the touch than stuff processed in say, Japan. That IS350 sure does have a buttery feel though.
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Old 07-04-2006, 04:32 PM
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BMW can also learn something about quality leather from Lexus.
Actually, I like the tight sporty leather that BMW provides much better than that of a Lexus. Bottom line:

A BMW is meant for sport driving and very comfortable at distances up to about 500 miles.
A Lexus is meant for luxury driving and extremely comfortable for cross country distances.
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Old 07-04-2006, 06:52 PM
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I actually considered the IS350, and was ready to go test drive it, etc. When I told my girlfriend, she said "Get another BMW, instead. It saved you in the accident, I think it has more unique qualities, features, and design, the IS looks too much like a Camry (still!!), and besides, I don't like Lexus in general." Another reason why I love her so much.

that is funny, my gf almost said the same thing, i was undecided between the is350 and 330i until she said isn't lexus owned by Toyota. That pretty much made my decision that I wanted a BMW instead!
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Old 07-04-2006, 08:12 PM
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A BMW is meant for sport driving and very comfortable at distances up to about 500 miles.
A Lexus is meant for luxury driving and extremely comfortable for cross country distances.

I couldn't agree with you more, well put bmwexec.

However i dont know if i'd agree with you on the whole nav system comment. I've never tried the Idrive but from what've heard its not that great, I've tried bmw's nav system that was in a 2002-2003 X5 where you do everything but turning this little knob on the right side of the screen (NOT IDRIVE) and it was a POS. My mom has a lex nav and i totally love the touch screen and how user friendly it is. As for worrying about finger prints, they're actually hard to see unless you're looking for it. Unless you have REALLY sweaty/oily hands that should not be a concern. Toyota/Lexus' GPS nav system is probably one of if not the most user friendly gps nav systems i've tested.
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You know what... I have the same feeling as you do. I believe he got ES350 instead.... especially the venting seat option.
The IS350 has vented seats.

Lexus Nav is by far the best I've used. I have the iDrive, I don't find it hard to use, but the Navi functionality is lacking. One of the key features of Navi is search by POI/Name or POI/Number. I don't understand why BMW doesn't have this. Looking for a specific restraunt .... Can I just put in Chili's and let it sohw me the closest ones ... Nope, you have to fumble around and hope you pick the correct catagory and city. How about Target ... is that a shoping center, Discount store or Mall .. who knows, I've yet to figure out any rhyme or reason for how BMW assigns catagories.
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Old 07-04-2006, 09:46 PM
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Agreed about the Navi. The e90's is near the bottom of the heap, worse than any other I've seen. Good thing that's just a minor accessory to me.
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I may be in the minority here since all I've owned since 1995 has been Lexus as far as luxury brands go.
I did my due research considerably before choosing the 330i over IS350. Both have pros and cons.
To me the BMW was just head and shoulders above the Lex in handling, cornering and braking. Not to mention back seat comfort(have you guys sat in the back seat of an IS350?).

The way I see it, this is the car brand for me for many years to come. Now I kind of wish I'd bought one in 1999 when the E46 came out.... I just love that design!
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No joke what so ever. And I think the iDrive system is great. Honestly, I don't see how it could be much easier. Everyone talks about how the iDrive system is way over complicated. I guess that's for those that haven't used a computer since they've been alive. My mom has a Lexus GX470 and I find the navigation system on there to be at least 3X as complicated at the one in my 3er. One feature I LOVE (freakin LOVE!!!) about the iDrive system is that is doesn't lock you out and put you in the dumbass in-motion menu like other cars which allows you to basically do nothing. I won't use the iDrive while I'm driving unless I feel confident about it and I'm glad the system allows me to use my own judgment on when to use it. Unlike Lexus, Jeep and Audi.
I must agree about iDrive. Quite simply I think the people who gripe about it are a little slow. Within 5 minutes in my bro-in-law's 7 series i had the thing nailed down for basic functions.

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I must agree about iDrive. Quite simply I think the people who gripe about it are a little slow. Within 5 minutes in my bro-in-law's 7 series i had the thing nailed down for basic functions.
I don't have a gripe about iDrive ... it's the actualy navigation Software I don't like. iDrive works just fine for me.
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I absolutely LOVE the front of the new IS (reminds me of //M), the rear is blah, and the interior is the breaking point for me. I really don't dig the Toyota-ish of it. The gear lever is terrible ... I hate when they are just notched into the center console. BMWs are nice with the leather around it so it looks more like a manual. And I think their engine choices are messed up. Too big of a gap between the 204 hp IS 250 and 300 hp IS 350. Give the IS 250 about 240 HP and you have something nice, but as it stands, the 325i is more powerful AND drives better, so I don't know why anyone would take the IS 250 over it.
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The only thing better in the IS than E90 is the seats and the nav screen. The looks have gotten old to me allready and no 6mt is a dealbreaker.
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The only thing better in the IS than E90 is the seats and the nav screen. The looks have gotten old to me allready and no 6mt is a dealbreaker.
Hated the IS seats...they're too soft, no bolstering and no thigh support.
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I must agree about iDrive. Quite simply I think the people who gripe about it are a little slow. Within 5 minutes in my bro-in-law's 7 series i had the thing nailed down for basic functions.
+1

The best part about iDrive is that you can keep one eye on the road while you use it. The knob is a less intuitive but more efficient control interface than a multitude of buttons.
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