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Old 10-30-2006, 09:13 AM
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Is it possible to locate the ipod in the ceter console rather than the glove (inconvenient) box in an E60??
The location for dealer install is the glove box, but I ran a cable from there to the center arm rest, as described in post #1 of this thread. Here's a post with pix (the pix in post #1 of this thread were hosted on a site that crashed and couldn't recover the pix):
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Old 10-30-2006, 09:19 AM
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The location for dealer install is the glove box, but I ran a cable from there to the center arm rest, as described in post #1 of this thread. Here's a post with pix (the pix in post #1 of this thread were hosted on a site that crashed and couldn't recover the pix):
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=172378
I think the poster was talking about the MOST adapter not the AUX line which has several feet of cable. The MOST adapter only has about 1-2 feet of cable so it won't reach to the center console.
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Old 10-30-2006, 09:22 AM
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The location for dealer install is the glove box, but I ran a cable from there to the center arm rest, as described in post #1 of this thread. Here's a post with pix (the pix in post #1 of this thread were hosted on a site that crashed and couldn't recover the pix):
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=172378
Ahhh yes, but I thought the pix is referring to the AUX connector, I was referring to the MOST connector (which also charges, and has 2 way data xfer)......or am I just having yet another senior moment
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:20 AM
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Ahhh yes, but I thought the pix is referring to the AUX connector, I was referring to the MOST connector (which also charges, and has 2 way data xfer)......or am I just having yet another senior moment
Oh, sorry.
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Old 10-30-2006, 02:20 PM
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Hello all--I posted the question about the new ipod connector maxing out at 30 playlists.

Well I got it installed and I seem to have this 30 playlist limit. All the other folders seem to have the 255 limit. Can anyone else test this with their system to confirm, maybe make a bunch of dummy playlists?

Please post with results. Thanks.
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Old 10-31-2006, 06:37 AM
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OK, so let me ask in a different way; Is there a way of extending the iPod cable on the BMW MOST connector so that the iPod can be located in the arm rest console.

To access the iPod in the glove box is most inconvenient UNLESS you can pause and select all of the iPod functions from the iDrive.......wait a minute, maybe I have just answered my own post.....why would I need to have the iPod next to me like I do with the AUX connector, IF the iDrive does all the functions.....hmmmm, is that true?
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OK, so let me ask in a different way; Is there a way of extending the iPod cable on the BMW MOST connector so that the iPod can be located in the arm rest console.

To access the iPod in the glove box is most inconvenient UNLESS you can pause and select all of the iPod functions from the iDrive.......wait a minute, maybe I have just answered my own post.....why would I need to have the iPod next to me like I do with the AUX connector, IF the iDrive does all the functions.....hmmmm, is that true?
When the iPod is connected to the BMW iPod interface, it can only be controlled via iDrive.
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Old 10-31-2006, 11:34 AM
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OK, so let me ask in a different way; Is there a way of extending the iPod cable on the BMW MOST connector so that the iPod can be located in the arm rest console.

To access the iPod in the glove box is most inconvenient UNLESS you can pause and select all of the iPod functions from the iDrive.......wait a minute, maybe I have just answered my own post.....why would I need to have the iPod next to me like I do with the AUX connector, IF the iDrive does all the functions.....hmmmm, is that true?
I'm sure that it is possible given that the distance added should not cause an impedence problem (I don't know the IEEE standard but I suspect it's around 15ft) However you have answered your own question and that is you don't need to access the actual iPod physically because you control all of it's functions through the iDrive. On the other hand (I have a 550i 2007) there is an AUX jack on the back of the console that you could plug an iPod into and in that case you would need to access the iPod directly because it's only outputting the audio signal. The only thing you can control with the car (in the case of the AUX) is the volume.
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iPod Integration Kit Observations

I took delivery of a new 2007 530i last week and wanted to share my impressions of the dealer-installed BMW iPod Integration Kit:

Pros:
- Easy to control iPod via iDrive interface
- Simple connection via connector in glove box
- Excellent sound over Logic 7 system

Cons:
- CD5 default perpetually repeats playback of a single podcast, rather than play each podcast one time and then move to the next
- CD1 defaults to main iPod directory (containing all music and podcasts in the iPod library), rather than to a music-only playlist, and will not automatically return to the last playlist used

Is there any way to overcome the two drawbacks listed above, or do we just have to wait until the next software update? In addition, is there any way to shut off the Weather Band so that the radio skips over this audio output when scrolling from AM radio to SAT radio?
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Old 11-02-2006, 05:28 AM
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Old 11-02-2006, 07:19 AM
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I took delivery of a new 2007 530i last week and wanted to share my impressions of the dealer-installed BMW iPod Integration Kit:

Pros:
- Easy to control iPod via iDrive interface
- Simple connection via connector in glove box
- Excellent sound over Logic 7 system

Cons:
- CD5 default perpetually repeats playback of a single podcast, rather than play each podcast one time and then move to the next
- CD1 defaults to main iPod directory (containing all music and podcasts in the iPod library), rather than to a music-only playlist, and will not automatically return to the last playlist used

Is there any way to overcome the two drawbacks listed above, or do we just have to wait until the next software update? In addition, is there any way to shut off the Weather Band so that the radio skips over this audio output when scrolling from AM radio to SAT radio?

It would really be helpful if we understood how the iDrive looked at the iPod. Sounds like the is much work yet to be done by the iDrive architects.
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Old 11-02-2006, 12:01 PM
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I've also experienced the same issues that bbmertz describes.

One thing I did figure out. You can scroll faster by twisting the iDrive wheel back and forth. It's hard to describe, but instead of just holding it steady, a racheting motion seems to speed up the scrolling.

With respect to podcasts, I tend to make playlists out of the short ones (hence my need for more than the usual number of playlists).

Frankly, I think access via playlist is the only viable way to play the ipod through the interface. The rest of it requires more manipulation, which may be fine on the ipod itself (since you aren't driving!) but can be a bit tedious via iDrive.

Still interested in hearing if anyone can confirm the 30 playlist limit.
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Old 11-06-2006, 06:04 PM
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I took delivery of a new 2007 530i last week and wanted to share my impressions of the dealer-installed BMW iPod Integration Kit:

Pros:
- Easy to control iPod via iDrive interface
- Simple connection via connector in glove box
- Excellent sound over Logic 7 system

Cons:
- CD5 default perpetually repeats playback of a single podcast, rather than play each podcast one time and then move to the next
- CD1 defaults to main iPod directory (containing all music and podcasts in the iPod library), rather than to a music-only playlist, and will not automatically return to the last playlist used

Is there any way to overcome the two drawbacks listed above, or do we just have to wait until the next software update? In addition, is there any way to shut off the Weather Band so that the radio skips over this audio output when scrolling from AM radio to SAT radio?
what date did your dealer install the ipod retrofit? the current progman version 23.02.01 will not allow an ipod to be retrofitted at this time.(software issue)
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Old 11-18-2006, 09:02 PM
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New Ipod Hardware and Progman Available!

Just wanted to let everyone know that Ipod integration is now available for all e60 build dates starting with 03/03. Just had my '05 545 (09/04 build date) Ipod kit recoded after a DIY install. Works like a champ! $299 for the part, DIY install, and free recode from the dealer.
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Old 11-24-2006, 10:10 PM
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Does your 9/04 built e60 have navigation? My '05 e60 is production 4/05 w/navigation and was retrofitted with MP3 capability back in Aug According to the bulletin from a few months back, only E60s without navi from 3/05 and E60s w/navi from 9/05 will work with newly released interface part 65 11 0 403 651.

I've been waiting for either: 1)confirmation that it would work in my car before buying at-risk, or 2) the new part number for the pre 9/05 navi equipped e60.

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Old 11-25-2006, 01:34 AM
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reanem idrive Cd menu to have "ipod" instead

Is it possible to rename the CD text in hte Idrive menu system to reflect that of IPOD?

Also how muhc is the dealer charging for the the kit and install? Thanks
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Old 11-27-2006, 10:47 AM
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OK, so let me ask in a different way; Is there a way of extending the iPod cable on the BMW MOST connector so that the iPod can be located in the arm rest console.

To access the iPod in the glove box is most inconvenient UNLESS you can pause and select all of the iPod functions from the iDrive.......wait a minute, maybe I have just answered my own post.....why would I need to have the iPod next to me like I do with the AUX connector, IF the iDrive does all the functions.....hmmmm, is that true?
Provided they make a Female/Male iPod extension cable....
With the glove box out, you would route the extension cable from the glovebox (follow how Stream did it with his Aux input) to the glove box. Not sure if anyone makes that cable however.
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Hello everyone. I am new here.

I have a 2006 750li w/ Nav/Sat/CD Changer/Rear Seat Ent.

I realize that this is the 5 series forum, however this appears to be the only thread w/ extensive discussion re: the ipod integration. If I should be posting elsewhere, please let me know. Otherwise, I hope someone here can answer some of my questions:

1. In my vehicle, I can play MP3 CD's in the changer, but not the in-dash player. Is there an update available that can change this? If so, is it necessary for the ipod integration to work?

2. I read earlier in this thread that if you have Rear Seat Ent., that the install may not be possible. Can anyone confirm this?

3. In the 5 series, where is the DVD unit for the GPS located? For the 7 it is in the trunk.

4. Would the 5 series DIY instructions be adequate for a 7 series as well?

Thank you.
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Old 12-03-2006, 10:56 AM
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#1 With this setup the iPod cannot be used to control anything so you would not gain anything by the extention.

#2 The most connection is a fibre optic cable and the extention thereof would make no sense.

#3 The only cable the you might extend is the cable that attaches to the bottom of the iPod but again it would serve no purpose to have the extention because when the ipod interface is being used the iPod is disabled so you cant control it anyway. All control is done from the steering wheel or the CD controls on the dash.

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OK, so let me ask in a different way; Is there a way of extending the iPod cable on the BMW MOST connector so that the iPod can be located in the arm rest console.

To access the iPod in the glove box is most inconvenient UNLESS you can pause and select all of the iPod functions from the iDrive.......wait a minute, maybe I have just answered my own post.....why would I need to have the iPod next to me like I do with the AUX connector, IF the iDrive does all the functions.....hmmmm, is that true?
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Old 12-03-2006, 07:15 PM
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Does your 9/04 built e60 have navigation? My '05 e60 is production 4/05 w/navigation and was retrofitted with MP3 capability back in Aug According to the bulletin from a few months back, only E60s without navi from 3/05 and E60s w/navi from 9/05 will work with newly released interface part 65 11 0 403 651.

I've been waiting for either: 1)confirmation that it would work in my car before buying at-risk, or 2) the new part number for the pre 9/05 navi equipped e60.

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Yep I have nav. The part number for my kit is 65 11 0 403 651. Looks like the same part. The difference must be in the CIP. According to my paperwork, my update was CIP 23.02. FWIW I still do not have MP3 playback capability, but the IPOD works fine.

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Does your 9/04 built e60 have navigation? My '05 e60 is production 4/05 w/navigation and was retrofitted with MP3 capability back in Aug According to the bulletin from a few months back, only E60s without navi from 3/05 and E60s w/navi from 9/05 will work with newly released interface part 65 11 0 403 651.

I've been waiting for either: 1)confirmation that it would work in my car before buying at-risk, or 2) the new part number for the pre 9/05 navi equipped e60.

2005 545i: Orient Blue/Beige, 6spd, Sport, Navi, CWP, PremSound, PDC, Active-steering, Comfort seats, Rear shades, Rear heated and folding seats and Satellite Radio.
If you can play MP3's, you can have the iPOD. Period. If you already have a CD changer to remove, it is even easier and no dealer visit is required. Plug and Play.
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Old 12-06-2006, 04:07 PM
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Downgrade iPod?

I purchased a brand new 80G iPod to go with my brand new iPod adapter.... The iPod came with 1.2 software on it, but as others have pointed out here, 1.2 software doesn't work very well with the BMW integration (which really ticks me off, but that's another thread somewhere, isn't it?). I can't find a good source to answer:

1) Can the 80G iPod work on 1.1.2 software?
2) Is there a reliable, Apple-sanctioned way of downgrading the device?

I've only found sketchy hacks that look like they've been revised over and over because unsuspecting users have tried them and have ended up erasing or destroying their iPods in the process....

I also just heard of a 1.2.1 release--does any one know if that might solve the "random playback" problem that 1.2 created (i.e., it doesn't play randomly any more in the car!!)?

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Old 12-10-2006, 09:46 PM
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Well, I can answer my own question about the 1.2.1 bug fix release--it does NOT fix the random shuffle problem.

Man, that pisses me off, and I don't know who to complain to -- BMW? Apple? Who cares more about fixing the problem?
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Old 12-11-2006, 06:14 PM
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Just wanted to let everyone know that Ipod integration is now available for all e60 build dates starting with 03/03. Just had my '05 545 (09/04 build date) Ipod kit recoded after a DIY install. Works like a champ! $299 for the part, DIY install, and free recode from the dealer.
Hmm I asked my dealer whether the retrofit software already avail for e60 2004 without nav, they said it has not come out yet. So prob have to ask diff dealer? Can someone give me the version number of the software?
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