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Old 07-07-2006, 05:32 PM
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Advertising Fees?

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I just put a deposit down on a 330xi today ($1000) and was told by the sales person that the cost would be $900 above invoice. I was ok with that and since I did business with him before, I agreed. Note: I did not sign any papers today and this was a verbal agreement.

I later priced it out again on Edmunds.com and saw that the price agreed upon was $1300 above invoice. I called the sales person up again and he told me the difference was the ad fees that all BMW dealerships tag on.

Has anyone ever got them to waive this? Can I cancel and get the deposit back since I didn't sign anything (was put on credit card)?

I know it was really dumb not to have had or reviewed the invoice price with him...my bad for that.

Any comments?
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Old 07-07-2006, 06:41 PM
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If you do not want it charged to your creditcard then call the bank up and get them to void the charge.
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Old 07-07-2006, 07:31 PM
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>>> 1st time posting <<<

I just put a deposit down on a 330xi today ($1000) and was told by the sales person that the cost would be $900 above invoice. I was ok with that and since I did business with him before, I agreed. Note: I did not sign any papers today and this was a verbal agreement.

I later priced it out again on Edmunds.com and saw that the price agreed upon was $1300 above invoice. I called the sales person up again and he told me the difference was the ad fees that all BMW dealerships tag on.

Has anyone ever got them to waive this? Can I cancel and get the deposit back since I didn't sign anything (was put on credit card)?

I know it was really dumb not to have had or reviewed the invoice price with him...my bad for that.

Any comments?
Well you can't just void an authorized credit card charge. It doesn't work like checks.

The hell are ad fees?? I have never heard of that.

You had to sign something when you let him charge your card right? You should have gotten a purchase order form that says the price.
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Old 07-07-2006, 07:33 PM
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If you do not want it charged to your creditcard then call the bank up and get them to void the charge.
Bad idea - you can do that only if you never want to do business with that dealership again. That´s like stopping a check.

Putting down a deposit is a form of contract. In most cases it´s refundable but you need to ask for it back, not forcibly take it back. You gave them the deposit of your own free will.
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Old 07-07-2006, 07:58 PM
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Get your deposit back and run.. I'd never do business with a scheister like this clown.

It's been debated ad-nauseum whether or not these fees are "legit". Let's just say they are - all the more reason to disclose that it's being added to the "invoice" cost at the time you negotiate your deal. The ONLY reason not to is to intentionally be deceptive. THAT is not ok under any circumstances, even if this fee is "legit".

Does this assclown resemble the guy in my tagline shot below?? Just curious.. they seem to have similar ethics.
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Old 07-07-2006, 08:06 PM
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I believe you legally have 3 days to cancel out of any contract. Just ask them to cancel the deal. Secondly, you should be able to get the deal for $500 over invoice, plus the ad fees which range around 200 to 500.

Oh, just my opinion, but living in San Jose, I don't think you'll need the xi, I've heard it's much slower and heavier.
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>>> 1st time posting <<<

I just put a deposit down on a 330xi today ($1000) and was told by the sales person that the cost would be $900 above invoice. I was ok with that and since I did business with him before, I agreed. Note: I did not sign any papers today and this was a verbal agreement.

I later priced it out again on Edmunds.com and saw that the price agreed upon was $1300 above invoice. I called the sales person up again and he told me the difference was the ad fees that all BMW dealerships tag on.

Has anyone ever got them to waive this? Can I cancel and get the deposit back since I didn't sign anything (was put on credit card)?

I know it was really dumb not to have had or reviewed the invoice price with him...my bad for that.

Any comments?
MACO advertising fees have been discussed here at length over the years. If you agreed to a certain amount over invoice, and their invoice has MACO, then the deal is what it is -- especially if you neglected to discuss actual/real figures. Few dealers operate outside of Markert Area Cooperative Advertising groups. The dealer is not a scheister. Your decision is whether or not to aggravate yourself for the difference. Maybe they'll waive it, or maybe not. It doesn't hurt to ask...
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>>> 1st time posting <<<

I just put a deposit down on a 330xi today ($1000) and was told by the sales person that the cost would be $900 above invoice. I was ok with that and since I did business with him before, I agreed. Note: I did not sign any papers today and this was a verbal agreement.

I later priced it out again on Edmunds.com and saw that the price agreed upon was $1300 above invoice. I called the sales person up again and he told me the difference was the ad fees that all BMW dealerships tag on.

Has anyone ever got them to waive this? Can I cancel and get the deposit back since I didn't sign anything (was put on credit card)?

I know it was really dumb not to have had or reviewed the invoice price with him...my bad for that.

Any comments?
CA car buyers bill of rights, effective July 1, 2006

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Old 07-08-2006, 10:30 AM
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CA car buyers bill of rights, effective July 1, 2006

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0..._used_car.html
This looks like its only for used cars...not new ones.
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>>> 1st time posting <<<

I just put a deposit down on a 330xi today ($1000) and was told by the sales person that the cost would be $900 above invoice. I was ok with that and since I did business with him before, I agreed. Note: I did not sign any papers today and this was a verbal agreement.

I later priced it out again on Edmunds.com and saw that the price agreed upon was $1300 above invoice. I called the sales person up again and he told me the difference was the ad fees that all BMW dealerships tag on.

Has anyone ever got them to waive this? Can I cancel and get the deposit back since I didn't sign anything (was put on credit card)?

I know it was really dumb not to have had or reviewed the invoice price with him...my bad for that.

Any comments?
When buying a car, negotiate the total price out the door, not just the invoice + x amount . Of course there are other fees that get tacked on. When you spoke with the sales rep, was the discussion on about the price of the car, or the fees to close the deal as well? I am not sure the dealer was hiding anything if tacking on MACO is typical for the dealer.
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Old 07-08-2006, 12:55 PM
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When buying a car, negotiate the total price out the door, not just the invoice + x amount . Of course there are other fees that get tacked on. When you spoke with the sales rep, was the discussion on about the price of the car, or the fees to close the deal as well? I am not sure the dealer was hiding anything if tacking on MACO is typical for the dealer.
We discussed out the door price assuming it was $900 above invoice. I guess if MACO is a valid or legitimate charge, then I guess its an ok deal. Was just wondering if it could be waived. Thanks for all the responses so far.
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