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Old 01-18-2003, 02:47 PM
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Ron -

I know someone that is curious if any of those would be a good fit for an e36 M3?
The lever I use short shifting a E36 M3 is mainly the M-Z3 one. I have used others. The top of the shift knob is 3/4 inch lower than stock which is the ideal height in my opinion. I have done some M-Z3 levers for the E36 M3 shortened from above 1 inch, which is 1 3/4 inch lower than stock. This lever has to be bent to duplicate the stock neutral postion. I also custom bend.

You could aslo use the Z4-3.0 lever. The top of the shift knob is 1 3/8 inch lower than stock. It also has to be bent.
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Old 01-18-2003, 03:49 PM
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Re: No Z3 3.0?

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Ron, how does the Z3 3.0 shift lever stack up against all these others?
The lever labeled Z3-2.8 is the same lever used in the Z3-3.0.
The Z4-3.0 shift lever in your car would give you a 18% reduction in shifting throw.
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Old 01-18-2003, 06:27 PM
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The lever I use short shifting a E36 M3 is mainly the M-Z3 one. I have used others. The top of the shift knob is 3/4 inch lower than stock which is the ideal height in my opinion. I have done some M-Z3 levers for the E36 M3 shortened from above 1 inch, which is 1 3/4 inch lower than stock. This lever has to be bent to duplicate the stock neutral postion. I also custom bend.

You could aslo use the Z4-3.0 lever. The top of the shift knob is 1 3/8 inch lower than stock. It also has to be bent.
Ron, thanks for the info. I sent him a link to this thread.
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Old 01-19-2003, 03:07 PM
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Z4 ones added to the ratio chart

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Any chance the new E46 330P shift lever will fit E46 M3?
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Don't know yet. I assume that it's ratio will be less than the E46 328/30's 4.74:1.
I've done a couple of E46 M3's using the Z3-2.8/3.0 shift lever (4.0:1 ratio) which has to be bent. Since the E46 330P is already bent (I assume) it may work well on the E46 328/30, M3 and the E36 328/M3. Probably too much to hope for. Will post a pic of one which some other levers when I receive one. Not on the 01/03 EPC. It should be on the 02/03 one.

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Old 03-20-2003, 07:08 PM
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Will be interesting to see what the E46 330 performance shift lever looks like. The stock E46 330 shift lever has a ratio of 4.74:1. The E46 330 performance, claims a shorter shift. I assume that it will have a lower ratio similar to the M-Z3 shift lever. What's different here, is that the M-Z3 shift lever is not bent. The E46 330 performance shift lever is. Will post pics of it when it comes in. If it is what I think it is, it will open up a lot of short shifting possibilities using BMW stuff.
Not what I expected. Length above the pivot ball is the same as the regular 330 lever. Length below is a little bit more. Front to back bend is less. A 7% reduction in shifting throw.

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Hmm, not exactly what I predicted. From the 330HP (pre-production) I checked out in January, it felt like a shorter knob, nothing else.

Looks like this minimal change in ratio is used on top of the shorter knob to meet BMWNA's claims of a 'short shifter.'
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Hmm, not exactly what I predicted. From the 330HP (pre-production) I checked out in January, it felt like a shorter knob, nothing else.
Wasn't aware of it having a shorter shift knob. Was it shaped like the ones in the following pic?

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Old 03-20-2003, 09:31 PM
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There were several pics taken at the LA auto show and posted here, but IIRC it was a lot like 'H' but with a normal-looking (not metallic) 6sp insert.

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Old 03-20-2003, 09:39 PM
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Argh, I can't insert the pic for some reason.

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