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E36 (1991 - 1999)
The E36 chassis 3-Series BMW was a huge hit among driving enthusiasts from the first moment the car hit the pavement. The E36 won numerous awards over the years it was produced and is still a favorite of many BMW enthusiasts to this day! -- View the E36 Wiki

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Old 05-05-2016, 03:53 PM
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Turbo budget build

Picked up a 1996 328i 5 speed for $750 with a blown head gasket

The plan is to turbo it for $1750
Is it possible will it get done will it go up in flames

I will be buying most of the parts tonight and update as I make progress

Also I have the dinan cat back exhaust that I won't be using if anyone is interested pm me
I have the stage three dinan ecu also if anyone wants to trade yours plus cash for mine.
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Old 05-05-2016, 04:18 PM
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Not possible. Tuning package alone is at least $1200.
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Old 05-05-2016, 04:48 PM
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Not possible. Tuning package alone is at least $1200.
You can get a MS3 for like $350, then get a rough tune by yourself, then dyno for about $300.
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Old 05-05-2016, 04:49 PM
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You can get a MS3 for like $350, then get a rough tune by yourself, then dyno for about $300.
What about all the sensors for the mS3? Wiring? Can he tune it properly? What about injectors? A proper laptop?
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Old 05-05-2016, 08:00 PM
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I was quoted at 500 for the tune package Dyno jet and road time. I just ordered 60 lbs injectors.
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Old 05-05-2016, 08:21 PM
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Got the intake manifold off and most of the exhaust manifold bolts off. The guy said it was rebuilt when the stage 3 dinan was done but I wasn't buying that. Does bmw use anti-seize from the factory on exhaust manifold bolts? Mine came off surprisingly easy for 260,000 miles.

I also took all the coils out, didn't drain the fluids yet. Gotta have something to do while I wait for parts. Not bad for having the car less than 12 hours
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Old 05-05-2016, 08:21 PM
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I'll post more pics when parts arrive!

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Old 05-06-2016, 01:31 AM
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Whats your power goal, to do a proper build and turbo that budget may be a bit off, how much work can you do yourself?? make sure you use a better MLS HG and ARP Studs, that way its at least future proof!
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Old 05-06-2016, 06:55 AM
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that budget may be a bit off
Yeah, I'd say it's more than a bit off... He is attempting to install a turbo for the cost of a set of wheels & tires. At best it will run for a little while and then break before very long. Most likely it will not be what what he hopes it to be, and he'll realize that to really make the whole project worthwhile, he's going to have to redo a ton of stuff and invest many more thousands of dollars to finish the job properly. He's also building a turbo around what was essentially a scrap car, so I'm assuming the rest of it needs work.

This project seems like throwing good money after bad, but live & learn I guess.
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Old 05-06-2016, 07:19 AM
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Old 05-06-2016, 07:25 AM
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My first turbo build was on a budget and it probably cost around $5000.

The second build, well..... it had a different budget lol.
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Old 05-06-2016, 09:16 AM
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Whats your power goal, to do a proper build and turbo that budget may be a bit off, how much work can you do yourself?? make sure you use a better MLS HG and ARP Studs, that way its at least future proof!
Ordered them last night, I can do everything myself except resurfacing the head and tune.

The setup I'm going to have I'll start with 300 tq at the crank and if it holds up who knows, the injectors and maf sensor will be the main things holding me back.

I'm not saying 1750 dollars is all I'm going to put into the car that's just my initial budget.
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Old 05-08-2016, 12:10 AM
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I got the exhaust dropped and valve cover off. Hopefully get the head pulled tomorrow and of to the machine shop. Parts will start arriving Wednesday so hopefully I can piece it together besides the charge piping, I'm holding off idk if I should go the generic kit route or do 45s throughout?

The cams are damn good for having 260,000 miles, just so much moisture build up in the oil from head gasket being blown.

I will be out of town next weekend so I'll only have time after work to get down to business.
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Old 05-08-2016, 07:11 PM
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Well with everything going on today with Mother's Day I didn't get the head off. I got the radiator out which is brand new as well as the water pump

Also got the oil filter housing off because that was leaking and It also has a brand new alternator

I have it set at tdc and will pull the head tomorrow.... I hope
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Old 05-09-2016, 08:32 PM
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My first turbo build was on a budget and it probably cost around $5000.

The second build, well..... it had a different budget lol.
Well ran into the first problem today other than my budget
The vanos unit won't come out of the intake cam, I have all the exhaust cam bolts loose but it won't budge I don't want to break something by using to much force.

I'm debating just removing the cam with vanos attached, has anyone done this?

On a positive note I did get the arp studs today!
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Old 05-11-2016, 11:36 PM
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I got the head off a few days ago just been to busy to update, I ended up taking off the exhaust gears then taking off the 3 nuts on the intake cam pulled The gear as far as it would go and turned it, popped right out. The head is at the shop and parts are arriving I don't really have any specific race or event that I'm building this for so there isn't a deadline but I'm hoping to have it getting tuned within a month.
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Old 05-13-2016, 11:43 AM
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I bought a e36 Turbo and it went on fire. All damage was in engine bay and it cost around 900 to fix and replace everything that was without any mapping or buying a turbo. Just kept finding things I wanted to change and I all added up pretty quickly. To be honest I think the budget is quite far off just be prepared to spend alot more. Good luck with the build though.

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I bought a e36 Turbo and it went on fire. All damage was in engine bay and it cost around 900 to fix and replace everything that was without any mapping or buying a turbo. Just kept finding things I wanted to change and I all added up pretty quickly. To be honest I think the budget is quite far off just be prepared to spend alot more. Good luck with the build though.
Thanks!

I have basically everything but the charge piping and tune. I spent roughly 1300 dollars on parts.

The car is clean besides the head gasket that was blown. No cracks in the leather original spare tire and all the tools headlights are still shinny. The only little things I need to fix is a wheel speed sensor and the oil filter housing is leaking but I have that all unbolted just waiting on the gasket.
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I have a few small bits to do but I just done my housing gasket and a service today lol. What turbo are you using?
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Old 05-13-2016, 05:46 PM
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Old 05-13-2016, 05:47 PM
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I figured I'd do the gasket while everything is off.
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I understand your goal is just to deck the head and turbo charge your motor. Why not handle every wearable part you have access to while she is torn down? I would recommend that if your wear just decking the head. With all the extra load you are going to be placing on your power plant it seems an ounce of prevention will go along way in your future. All those 20 year old gaskets and seals have never faced the kind of prolonged rpms you are going to be turning WHEN you get her done. #confirdence

Good luck! I will enjoy watching your build.
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I will be doing most of the gaskets piston rings and arp main studs along with the head studs, valve seals to. Also swapping my m50 manifold from my 325is and the m52 manifold into that so that should be interesting.

Thanks and I'll enjoy watching your daughter's car progress.

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Daggerty, I'm putting a turbo in my '97 328i. I came to the fest today to see what kind of injectors I should put on it. What exactly did you buy? Also, are you using a kit, or is it custom?
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Daggerty, I'm putting a turbo in my '97 328i. I came to the fest today to see what kind of injectors I should put on it. What exactly did you buy? Also, are you using a kit, or is it custom?
You should get matching injectors maf and tune, aka a tuning package.

Look at TRM, Miller performance, RK tunes, etc
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