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E36 (1991 - 1999)
The E36 chassis 3-Series BMW was a huge hit among driving enthusiasts from the first moment the car hit the pavement. The E36 won numerous awards over the years it was produced and is still a favorite of many BMW enthusiasts to this day! -- View the E36 Wiki

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Old 05-27-2014, 09:06 PM
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Aux/USB input?

So I've been on a kind of retrofit kick lately (just put in an OEM keyless entry, just bought a PDC kit, etc.) Does anyone know if this Aux/USB socket will fit in our E36's? It looks like it's the same size as our ACS and heated seat switches, and I'm hoping it'll fit into an empty slot there. Wiring the aux input into my CD33 and the USB to power should be easy enough.

Part number 84109237653
It's used on the E82, E89, E92, F10, etc.
http://realoem.com/bmw/photos/84109237653.jpg

Edit: Damn that was a big picture, here it is resized
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Old 05-28-2014, 06:24 AM
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I like the USB charger - That's legit. I have some stupid looking plug sticking out of my cigarette lighter.

But what are you planning on plugging into that AUX jack?

Your Sony Walkman?

Swap out your cd player with a Blutooth AM/FM receiver for about a 100 bucks and stream Spotify or Pandora straight from your smart phone. You don't even have to take it out of your pocket. No cables. Unlimited music options. Just get in the car and it will start up where you left off automatically

That is the set up I'm rocking and it's awesome. It's like my phone and my car are besties who just want to party with me.

What I would love though is audio controls for it in my steering wheel. At the moment I'm skipping tracks by reaching out and pushing a button on the receiver.... like a chump.
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Old 05-28-2014, 06:27 AM
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At the moment I'm skipping tracks by reaching out and pushing a button on the receiver.... like a chump.
Oh man, how do you deal?

I think we can get you through this rough time.
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Old 05-28-2014, 06:29 AM
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... Does anyone know if this Aux/USB socket will fit in our E36's? It looks like it's the same size as our ACS and heated seat switches, and I'm hoping it'll fit into an empty slot there....
Yes, it fits in the the middle console cutouts forward of the shifter.

I am presently adding the connector to provide power from a 12V USB power adapter and a serial connection from one of my microcontrollers.

Here is picture of the circuit board I will put upstream of the power adapter to protect it against automotive surges and transients:



When BMW built our cars, they didn't use a central suppressor like people do now.

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Old 05-28-2014, 06:38 AM
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I like the USB charger - That's legit. I have some stupid looking plug sticking out of my cigarette lighter.

But what are you planning on plugging into that AUX jack?
I have all the music I could ever want on my smart phone. I'd love a bluetooth head unit, but there isn't really anything out there that looks like it belongs in an E36. And keeping things OEM, or at least close enough, is a kind of an obsession of mine.

If it doesn't look like something that would have come from the BMW factory, I probably wouldn't like it.

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What I would love though is audio controls for it in my steering wheel. At the moment I'm skipping tracks by reaching out and pushing a button on the receiver.... like a chump.
That's another thing on my to-do list: wire up a steering wheel with some buttons. The wheel from an E39 for example, there's a diy thread over at Bf.c if I remember right.
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Old 05-28-2014, 06:43 AM
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Yes, it fits in the the middle console cutouts forward of the shifter.

I am presently adding the connector to provide power from a 12V USB power adapter and a serial connection from one of my microcontrollers.

Here is picture of the circuit board I will put upstream of the power adapter to protect it against automotive surges and transients:

http://www.unofficialbmw.com/john/e3...cb_outline.gif

When BMW built our cars, they didn't use a central suppressor like people do now.
Awesome, time to pick one up and see what I can come up with. It does look like getting power to the USB port will be a little harder than I thought though.

Thanks!
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Old 05-28-2014, 06:58 AM
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You are welcome. Most likely you won't need the protection electronics I am adding. I am just erring on the safe side so that I don't have to estimate the (low) probabilities.

The circular USB connector on the back of the USB/AUX_IN piece is pretty small, but BMW sells cables that mate with it, including one with a right angle plug that should route quite well under the middle console. It has an equally funky connector at the other end which you can cut off. (I haven't tried to find its mate.)

Happy modding!

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Old 05-28-2014, 10:22 AM
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Going slightly off topic, it appears Radio Shack used to sell an Automotive Surge and Spike Protector, p/n 270-1565, with this owner's manual. I suppose the idea is not completely insane. They discontinued it about ten years ago. I guess not enough people needed one.

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Old 05-29-2014, 05:25 AM
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If it doesn't look like something that would have come from the BMW factory, I probably wouldn't like it.
Haha yeah you're right. Mine is a blue Kenwood and it does look pretty trash. Kinda bugs me that that it looks so out of place, especially at night. Hella convenient though.
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Although nice to look at I am not sure how you will get both, the aux in and USB to work (data). I seen this on eBay as I would like to have the ability to have an aux in, USB, and keep my cd-changer at the same time.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-USB-Inte...p2054897.l4275
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Old 05-29-2014, 10:48 PM
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Although nice to look at I am not sure how you will get both, the aux in and USB to work (data). I seen this on eBay as I would like to have the ability to have an aux in, USB, and keep my cd-changer at the same time.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-USB-Inte...p2054897.l4275
It's pretty easy to wire the aux in into the factory radio. It'll replace the cassette tape function though, but who uses those anymore?

And I'm not expecting the USB portion to do any data stuff, that's way over my head. I'd just like to try and get power to it to charge a cell phone.
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Old 05-30-2014, 02:16 AM
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If you are researching pre-made USB power adapters, this is the one I am going to use.

It is designed by a German company and can supply up to 3.1A using "smart" device recognition. It only draws 3-4 milliamps with no load so you can leave it hooked up without fear of it draining the battery.

Amazon.de quoted a total cost of $38.94 to ship it to a U.S. address.
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I will contact the eBay seller (link in post #10) and will ask some detailed questions. If this set up alows me to switch between cd-changer and aux/USB I'll get one and mount the box in the glove compartment where my useless flashlight currently resides.

I'll keep you guys updated.
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Old 06-05-2014, 09:38 AM
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I found a part number that might be of interest: 61 13 1 378 116. It should be the connector shell that mates with the U.S. car phone connector that is under the center console where you might rest an inner arm.

Crimp or splice your wiring to a couple male contacts listed on that page, pop them in the shell, slide over the inner contact retainer, plug in and you have quick and easy connections to ground, switched and unswitched power. That should make life easier.

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Old 06-06-2014, 01:28 AM
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I found a part number that might be of interest: 61 13 1 378 116. It should be the connector shell that mates with the U.S. car phone connector that is under the center console where you might rest an inner arm.

Crimp or splice your wiring to a couple male contacts listed on that page, pop them in the shell, slide over the inner contact retainer, plug in and you have quick and easy connections to ground, switched and unswitched power. That should make life easier.
That does help, thanks John!
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Old 06-06-2014, 06:04 AM
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You're welcome. As of yesterday, the regional warehouse in Hannover had none, but the main warehouse in Dingolfing was happy to send some Swiss plastic:



They were 2.16 euro ($2.95) each before VAT.

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Today, I installed a BMW USB / AUX IN panel:



I wired the two connector as a 3.1A USB power port and as an RS232 serial port for a "ZZKE" controller I designed and installed in 2000. I can switch the controller to stream out distance, road and engine speeds 18.75 times per second.

I'll update the picture and put up a page of tips. Oh, and clean the car, inside and out.

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Neat

I haven't got around to putting mine together yet, not going to be as complicated as yours though
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