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Old 11-18-2002, 11:45 AM
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Update on USA Gun History fraud

I meant to post this some time ago . . . but got sidetracked with one trip or another.

I'll start with a question: How many of you remember the Press Reports about the University that released a study and related best-selling book proving that the historic claims that guns figured prominently in American culture were ill-founded? And furhter, that far fewer guns existed in the Revolution to Civil War era than gun-supporters would have us believe?

This whole thing was presented in the media as cause to reject the whole "Right to bear Arms" crowd in light of the supposed fact that this was never really the case in the past --- but a recent myth created by the NRA, the gun lobby, etc.

Anyway, here's a follow-up article buried in the back (as always) of the paper:

Author of Gun History Quits After Panel Faults Research
Atlanta, Oct. 26

- An Emory University professor has resigned after an academic panel released a report strongly critical of his research for a widely debated book about the history of guns in America. Mr. Bellesiles said the controversy surrounding his book, "Arming America: The Origins of a National Gun Culture" had made it impossible for him to contiue his research.

The 40-page report concluded that Prof. Bellesiles had been "guilty of unprofessional and misleading work." Among other things, it found he omitted reseachers data that contradicted his arguments. Mr. Bellesile's book received national attention for its contention that early Americans did not own or use firearms in great numbers.

The report, written by scholars from Harvard, Princeton, and the University of Chicago, said Mr. Bellesiles's failure to cite sources for critical data "does move into the realm of falsification."

Professor Bellesiles is one of several historians and professors accused recently of academic fraud.


Although I don't even a own a gun, it's entertaining to see to what length people will go to control other people and limit (eliminate) their rights.

My 'gun-control policy' is simple:
(1) Put the NRA in charge of keeping track of licenses, permits, etc. Let them use all the fees they collect for education, training, and safety programs.
(2) Make the penalties for use of a gun in the comission of a crime very severe, including (a) loss of the 'right' to own a gun, and (b) death penalty/life imprisonment for use of gun to commit a violent act against another person.

I'd say to the NRA, "You guys love guns. You be in charge of keeping track of them. Any problems and we'll ask YOU what you're doing about it."
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Old 11-18-2002, 03:37 PM
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This is one subject that really gets me angry so I'll keep my comments short.

Gun registration does NOTHING to prevent crime!
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Went to see "Bowling for Columbine" last night.

It was definitely very interesting and well worth seeing.
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