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Old 08-12-2006, 12:13 PM
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X3 and Gas Mileage

I'm curious to know how many board members would consider getting rid of their X3 if gas prices continue to rise... what would a gallon of gas have to cost for you to consider a different vehicle?

I leased my 2005 X3 with that very thing in mind. I only use half a tank a week currently, so it is not a problem. However, if I changed jobs and had to drive a great deal more, I'd consider it if/when gas goes north of $5. It is the only serious weakness for me in the X3. My current MPG is 16.2 in mostly city driving.
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Old 08-12-2006, 12:43 PM
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I get 21 avg in city/highway over 8K miles. This is significantly better than my other choices for a SUV or AWD. My 04 has the same average milage with over 35K on the clock. All we would do is eliminate trips, to reduce consumption of fuel.
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Old 08-12-2006, 12:47 PM
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I get about 17mpg :-/ it increased from 16mpg after maybe 5000 miles. With premium it does go up about 2mpg, which is slightly cheaper per mile if the premium is about .20 more per gallon
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Old 08-12-2006, 01:26 PM
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Fuel economy will increase as the engine breaks in..............so dont worry guys.

The worst I've done is 19mpg but that quickly goes up once I hit the highway. And on extended hwy trips I've reached 27mpg. It's all how you drive.......oh and premium is best for fuel economy so don't try and save money that way.
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Old 08-12-2006, 09:05 PM
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I get about the same mileage as you Techson, and use about the same amount of fuel per week, too. I considered gas mileage when I bought my X3 and it was on par with my 300ZX so I went for it. The X actually beats the ZX on the highway by about 3 mpg! It's about the same for around town.

If gas were to go over the $5 mark or I incurred a longer commute to work I'd probably keep the X3, sell the ZX, and get a beater to drive to work and stuff. Save the X for trips, bad weather conditions, and weekend "fun" driving.
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Old 08-13-2006, 01:19 AM
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somehow i cant see the econonmics in buying a 2nd car to save gas....the 2nd car with insurance has to cost way more than just paying more for gas...in fact i couldnt even see leasinga 325xi even with the gas savings compared to an x3 because the x3 was 80 a month cheaper..lots of people i know talk about getting a 2nd vehicle thats more efficiant when they dont own a 2nd vehicle already
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Old 08-13-2006, 04:20 AM
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My average on the car is 21.3 MPG, I live in the Mt Vernon area and commute into DC every day.
I have about 16,000 miles on the car.
It does better then my wifes 2001 acura MDX - 18.4 MPG
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Old 08-13-2006, 09:21 AM
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I have just logged 5K and can confirm that fuel economy does increase somewhat. I came out of a Tahoe and so am very happy with the X3 MPG! I suppose if we get to $5.00 a gallon gas I would go to another state and buy a VW TDI Passat with more than 8K miles on it (so I can register it in CA) and cope that way. Right now I am getting about 18 in town and 24 on the freeway without trying.
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Old 08-13-2006, 12:52 PM
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European prices

It's amazing what you get used to! In most countries in Europe, the gas price is currently over 7 US dollars for a Gallon (1,50 euro/Liter). And that's why I chose the more economic European version X3 2.0i. I make about 29 MPG (0,08 L/km) on mixed driving.
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Old 08-13-2006, 02:24 PM
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It's amazing what you get used to! In most countries in Europe, the gas price is currently over 7 US dollars for a Gallon (1,50 euro/Liter). And that's why I chose the more economic European version X3 2.0i. I make about 29 MPG (0,08 L/km) on mixed driving.
Out of curiosity, how do you guys merge with a gasoline X3 2.0i?
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Old 08-13-2006, 02:59 PM
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Out of curiosity, how do you guys merge with a gasoline X3 2.0i?
My English skills are limited, could you please explain what you mean with "merge"? I would like to answer this.
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Old 08-14-2006, 07:07 AM
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My English skills are limited, could you please explain what you mean with "merge"? I would like to answer this.
He is asking how hard it is to enter the highway from the on-ramp, with what he estimates is a very low power engine..

This always amazes me.... Half the people in the country are driving 4-cylinder econoboxes... They all manage to safely enter the interstate every day... You really don't need 200 HP to drive safely.... if you are a safe driver...
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Old 08-14-2006, 09:29 AM
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The cost of merging

Yes, the two-litre is 3 seconds slower to 60 mph. But the traffic rules in Norway says highway traffic should yield to or help incoming traffic, and merging does not really seem like a problem.

I guess a 3-litre would be more fun, but the 2-litre is all I could afford! I paid 90.000 US dollars (550.000 Norwegian kroner) for my '06 2.0i and the 3.0i is 135.000 dollars. What would you choose?

Engine size and car weight is heavily taxated in Norway, Denmark, France and Portugal and I've heard that the 2-litre is designed for these countries.

I took it to Germany last month, and it still does 125 mph on the Autobahn. Great handling and road grip at high speed! And 29 mpg, to keep the conversation thread.
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Old 08-14-2006, 12:12 PM
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This is kind of off topic, but I see these exchange rates like $90,000 USD for a 2.0 X3 and have to wonder. While that may be the exchange rate, what would you say the average pay is in Kroners? I just can't see anyone paying that much for an X3.
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Old 08-14-2006, 12:19 PM
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DC Metro Mileage

You folks getting ~ 20 MPG in DC metro traffic make me green with envy. My '06 3.0i is getting ~ 15 MPG, going from McLean right above Chain Bridge to the Southwest DC waterfront area every day. I'm not a leadfoot, either. Even if I pick up one or two MPG once the motor breaks in (I haven't hit 3K yet), I'm still not in that league.
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Old 08-14-2006, 06:44 PM
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somehow i cant see the econonmics in buying a 2nd car to save gas....the 2nd car with insurance has to cost way more than just paying more for gas...in fact i couldnt even see leasinga 325xi even with the gas savings compared to an x3 because the x3 was 80 a month cheaper..lots of people i know talk about getting a 2nd vehicle thats more efficiant when they dont own a 2nd vehicle already
Well, take me for example. I already have a 2nd car but it gets about the same city mileage as the X3. I'm not talking about buying a NEW car here with a payment and full coverage insurance. I'm talking a small, used (but decent) beater car I could pay for in cash that gets really good city mileage. The insurance on a car like that would be very little. Might just carry liability since it's paid for. Then I could list the X3 as a pleasure vehicle only, lowering the rate on it more (even lower than it already is! I pay about $143 a month for the two cars I have now, both are full coverage). At $5+/gallon the gas savings alone could pay for at least two thirds if not all of the insurance on both cars! And I get to keep the X3
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Old 08-14-2006, 09:08 PM
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I just did a 970 km trip with avg speed of 76 km/h. 750 kms were on highway, the rest mountaineousish driving. Average consumption for 3.0 with automatic tranny was 9.7 liters / 100 km. All of this is based on the board computer which I reset before the trip for all items that are captured. I found that a bit high but maybe a 10km/h drop in speed on highway would have given better results.

To Rob: The high prices are not the exchange rate which for sure affects the pricing to some degree. But then again so does the fact in which currency you get paid and where you are physically BMW has a global tax free base price list in which the prices are almost the same regardless of the country. I was able to compare these when I came from Finland to Canada. I was wondering in which country it would make most sense to buy the car and would it make sense to export from Finland to Canada tax free. There might be some local adjustments and the dealer adds their margin but then there are taxes on top.

Another example is my case. I bought X3 3.0 automatic with some extras in Canada for 60,000 CAD including all taxes. The same car with the same options in Finland (where I come from and will return in a month) is about 75,000 EUR including all taxes. Given the rate 1.43 from EUR to CAD gives about 107 kCAD So in my case buy one X3 get one 3-series free

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Here in the UK have a 3.0 Diesel. Diesel is $1.9 a litre. I currently get about 26mpg (average). Local driving due to it being hilly and slower is far from cost effective though.
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Is BMW going to bring the diesel engines over here to america for the X series? I think they would increase sales quite a bit since not many other manufacturer's make a diesel suv.
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My wife and I were getting interested in buying an x3 as our next new car. Now we're very weary because of the gas mileage. I have a Toyota Tacoma Prerunner Xcab truck and I never get below 19mpg in the city. I can't believe that this little x3 gets lower than that!!! I was expecting it not to even dip below 20mpg.

I guess it's also sad that they only release one engine of the x3 here in the states. I remember a couple years ago that they had the smaller engine available. It's not like we need the extra hps to race others in our small town. Do any of you think there will be a more fuel efficient engine available a year from now?

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My wife and I were getting interested in buying an x3 as our next new car. Now we're very weary because of the gas mileage. I have a Toyota Tacoma Prerunner Xcab truck and I never get below 19mpg in the city. I can't believe that this little x3 gets lower than that!!! I was expecting it not to even dip below 20mpg.

I guess it's also sad that they only release one engine of the x3 here in the states. I remember a couple years ago that they had the smaller engine available. It's not like we need the extra hps to race others in our small town. Do any of you think there will be a more fuel efficient engine available a year from now?

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The facelifted 2007 will get the N52 engine with the Valvetronic which should boost fuel economy by a couple miles per gallon city and highway. I have the smaller engine version and get decent economy (it's still a 6 cyl, just smaller). Best way to get good economy on an X3: get a manual, 2007, and watch what you do on the gas pedal. I can get well over the EPA figures with an automatic. You should be able to do better with manual.
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i get about 15.5 mixed city and highway

about 75% city and 25% highway...I do live in NYC, but my old 2004 325i only got about 17-19 mixed which wasn't great either

what can i do; I'm about to hit 2000 mark; anyway to try and increase fuel economy??
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My wife and I were getting interested in buying an x3 as our next new car. Now we're very weary because of the gas mileage. I have a Toyota Tacoma Prerunner Xcab truck and I never get below 19mpg in the city. I can't believe that this little x3 gets lower than that!!! I was expecting it not to even dip below 20mpg.

I guess it's also sad that they only release one engine of the x3 here in the states. I remember a couple years ago that they had the smaller engine available. It's not like we need the extra hps to race others in our small town. Do any of you think there will be a more fuel efficient engine available a year from now?

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Hi all! I am new here and doing some research to decide which model of the BMW I am going to buy. I am also considering the x3 as my next new car. I am having a hard time deciding between the x3 and the x5 4.4. Gas mileage is not something I consider because I love to drive and it is nothing to go through three or four tanks of gas when I take my car to the track and believe me the gas mileage at 100+ is not very good.

I have always wanted an x5 and am determined to get one. However, it seems the x3 gets better gas mileage and seeing as this will be my daily driver I am having to consider it. I am doing research and finding that there isn't mush difference in gas mileage between the two so I am having a really hard time deciding. Thanks for the great information on the reality of the mileage on the x3!
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Hi all! I am new here and doing some research to decide which model of the BMW I am going to buy. I am also considering the x3 as my next new car. I am having a hard time deciding between the x3 and the x5 4.4. Gas mileage is not something I consider because I love to drive and it is nothing to go through three or four tanks of gas when I take my car to the track and believe me the gas mileage at 100+ is not very good.

I have always wanted an x5 and am determined to get one. However, it seems the x3 gets better gas mileage and seeing as this will be my daily driver I am having to consider it. I am doing research and finding that there isn't mush difference in gas mileage between the two so I am having a really hard time deciding. Thanks for the great information on the reality of the mileage on the x3!
We have both an X3 2.5 and an X5 4.4 in our family. If you want the best "driver's car", get the X3. It handles much better and feels like a BMW should (the X5 is 'trucky' in comparison). If you need a bit more shoulder room in the back seat for three passengers (as I did for clients), then get the X5. The X3 has a slight edge over the X5 in head clearance, leg space, cargo capacity, and ground clearance as well.
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We have both an X3 2.5 and an X5 4.4 in our family. If you want the best "driver's car", get the X3. It handles much better and feels like a BMW should (the X5 is 'trucky' in comparison). If you need a bit more shoulder room in the back seat for three passengers (as I did for clients), then get the X5. The X3 has a slight edge over the X5 in head clearance, leg space, cargo capacity, and ground clearance as well.
Thank you so much for the information. I am all about the handling and have driven both the X3 and X5 but my husband doesn't like the small back seating area in the X3 (he hit his head getting out on the test drive and he is only 5'10"). I am working on him because I can get a fully loaded '06 X3 for the same price as a used '03-'04 X5 4.4. Not to mention the fact that Consumer Reports has named the '06 a recommended buy. I am also thinking of waiting for the '07 and seeing how much the prices are going to jump. Thanks again for the information.
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