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X5 E70 (2007 - 2013)
E70 BMW X5 produced between 2007 and 2013. Discuss the E70 X5 with other BMW owners here.

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Old 09-03-2006, 06:55 PM
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E70 - No adjustable ride height ... boo!

Someone from another forum confirmed that the initial batch of the E70 does not have adjustable ride height. His reason was that the Adapative Drive and the self-leveling rear suspension are good enough for the superior drive. This is one major disappointment if you ask me To be honest, what makes this E70 changes the rules? If you look at the Q7, at least they have the lane change assistance which would be extremely helpful for checking the blind spot. I don't think any of the German made vehicles has this function yet (please correct me if I am wrong). Also, not to mention that the Q7 has 4 or 5 settings for the ride height. This could be a real deal breaker for a lot of people, imo.

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Old 09-03-2006, 07:15 PM
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Typical BMW.......They usually don't have little annoying options on early models like some additional colors, Ajustible ride height, seatback storage nets (early E90, E53, X3, E46 etc..)
It drives me crazy how BMW does this ALWAYS when they should just push back the release date, IMO. Whatever take it or leave it it's BMW and I'm taking it for now. If you really need ajustible ride height If I were you I would personally wait and get the options and colors I want. I personally don't need ajustible ride height in my new E70 so I may order minde in the next few days to get one of the first ones. Good Luck!!!



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Old 09-03-2006, 07:28 PM
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You are quite right that some customers may or may not need adjustable air suspension (the same as with the 3rd row of seats). But at least provide it as an option (like the 3rd row of seats).

Perhaps, BMW needs to learn a lesson the hard way. Could the E70 X5 be the ONLY German SAV/SUV that has no adjustable ride height? (Touareg, Q7, Cayenne, ML, R, GL - adjustable air suspension is available for all of them as standard equipment or an optional item). A very shocking piece of news (if is true) that the E70 is going a step backward.

By the way, the ultimate driving machine still doesn't have the steering wheel paddle shifters on the X5 ...

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Old 09-04-2006, 07:49 AM
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Maybe customer research & sales statistics showed not many X5 customers opted for that feature, so BMW did not include it this time.



I guess engineering issue is not the reason since Adaptive Drive can be paired with level (self)adjusting rear air suspension successfully.



Btw, but E70 X5 is the only German SAV with Adaptive Drive which includes EDC and active roll stabilization, while some others have electronic dumper control only. So driving dinamics is not endangered here. Yes, adaptive ride height (featured on two-axle air suspension) is useful for off-roading, but like I said - maybe rational marketing reasons were behind the decision not to offer it right now. Who knows - maybe it will be offered later with full air suspension, rumoured Dynamic Drive & enhanched Adaptive Drive.

Regarding steering wheel paddle shifters: I'm sure they will be offerd in the future - maybe in "iS" model only, or optional in Sport package also in non-iS models.

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Old 09-04-2006, 10:44 AM
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it's the initial batch! They are guaranteed lemons anyway, wait for the '08's!!!
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Old 09-04-2006, 06:09 PM
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Maybe customer research & sales statistics showed not many X5 customers opted for that feature, so BMW did not include it this time.



I guess engineering issue is not the reason since Adaptive Drive can be paired with level (self)adjusting rear air suspension successfully.

Btw, but E70 X5 is the only German SAV with Adaptive Drive which includes EDC and active roll stabilization, while some others have electronic dumper control only. So driving dinamics is not endangered here. Yes, adaptive ride height (featured on two-axle air suspension) is useful for off-roading, but like I said - maybe rational marketing reasons were behind the decision not to offer it right now. Who knows - maybe it will be offered later with full air suspension, rumoured Dynamic Drive & enhanched Adaptive Drive.

Regarding steering wheel paddle shifters: I'm sure they will be offerd in the future - maybe in "iS" model only, or optional in Sport package also in non-iS models.
I can hardly believe that research & sales will show statistics that X5's customers do not want the adjustable air suspension. If that is the case, then the E53 shouldn't have include it in the first place. Perhaps, BMW is worried that when they do the facelift of this X5, there will be no more new goodies that can be offerred to the customers so they can then throw in a few old ones (together with the dynamic x-drive) and say the car is up another level.

The adjustable air suspension is not just about off-roading. It has also an easy entry or loading function. Even a high performance SAV/SUV like Cayenne (not a jeep) has it. Is BMW having a hard time keeping up with technology or simply they just like treating their customers like idiots?

As to the paddle shifters. Come on, this is future enough to include this gadget, don't you think so? This can't be too difficult since I have seen some people changing their normal 5-series steering wheel with the M5 steering wheel with the paddle shifters fully functional and they've done it DIY. Sure, introduce it 10 years later, by that time probably MB, Porsche, Audi and VW are using some space technology stuff. This will be like introducing an automatic gearbox with 5 gears now.

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Old 09-04-2006, 06:12 PM
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Allright, xdrive. Go buy a M-B, Q7 or a Cayenne then come here and spaz out about losing 30-40k on a total POS that has no freude am farhen.
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Old 09-04-2006, 07:16 PM
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dude it's not coming yet, although it would be nice to have, i am going a head with the X5 with or without it, if u really want it get yourself a Cayenne or Range rover, or just be patient and wait until it is released in the X5, that's how bmw make money, they offer it on the facelift, so old X5 owners have another reason to buy.
and don't forget a option like this cost a lot of money and is going to be a major headache when it fails

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Old 09-04-2006, 07:25 PM
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and don't forget a option like this cost a lot of money and is going to be a major headache when it fails
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How about $10,000 on our Touareg the two times it failed. And that effin' Running Gear light is on again.

Not that worth it.
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Old 09-05-2006, 01:00 AM
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Sorry, please see below.

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Sorry, please see below.

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Old 09-05-2006, 01:02 AM
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wait for the '08's!!!
Do you know the production year cycle for the X5? when will production of the 08's starts? September 07?
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Old 09-05-2006, 04:14 AM
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take a goddam xanax!!!
all normal model cycles start on 09/01.
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Old 09-05-2006, 06:37 PM
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all normal model cycles start on 09/01.
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Old 09-05-2006, 06:43 PM
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don't be insulted, it's all in good fun, you just seem verrry impatient. If I were you, I would lease a 4.8is for two or three years until the new one has the revision of options.
2000 was introduction, 2002 was a major option change, 2003 added more i.e. air suspension and then 2004 was a facelift.
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Old 09-05-2006, 07:11 PM
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Not at all. Was a bit frustrated seeing such a nice SAV to miss out on a feature which should have been standard to all SAVs/SUVs, IMO.
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