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Old 01-14-2007, 05:49 PM
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The monthly payment is the only important factor. People get bogged down in the details and forget that they have to write a check each month. The amount of that check is the most important thing. How that number is arrived at is irrelevent if the payment is right.
Troll. Or a bad dealer.
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Old 01-14-2007, 07:49 PM
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The monthly payment is the only important factor. People get bogged down in the details and forget that they have to write a check each month. The amount of that check is the most important thing. How that number is arrived at is irrelevent if the payment is right.
I doubt we will be hearing much more from you, when it comes to leasing.
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Old 01-15-2007, 04:43 AM
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The monthly payment is the only important factor. People get bogged down in the details and forget that they have to write a check each month. The amount of that check is the most important thing. How that number is arrived at is irrelevent if the payment is right.

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If you take 5 minutes to read this thread you will understand how wrong you are.
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Old 01-15-2007, 09:43 PM
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I got this offer from my local dealer in Birmingham:

E90 335i
Sale Price - $49840 (the full MSRP)
Acquisition - $825 (the max markup as i understand it)
36mo/12K Residual - 63% [$31399.20]
MF - 0.0019 (the max markup as i understand it)

$708.36/mo w/ tax |

$1874.36 (708.36 payment, 750 SD, 399.50 doc. fee, 16.50 title) up front

I told them, as my grandmother used to say, to kiss my grits.

Can you believe them?
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Old 01-16-2007, 11:37 AM
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Leasing offers for 335I Sedan in Southeastern PA

335i Sedan with comfort, premium, metallic & cold weather (No Sport option - too much tire expense!)
MSRP = 43828
Inv = 40325
36 month/15k Resid (61%) = 26735
Performance Center Delivery

I offered 1k over invoice, $625 acq, 0.0015 MF for 36 mo/15k miles. Monthly Pmt would be 507.35 + tax.

Dealer offered 1K under MSRP and agreed to all other terms. Mo pmt = 551 + tax. Drive off is 1st month, Sec Dep (625), Acq (625), Tags and PA Tax on Acq Fee. No other fees.

Fair terms I think, but with a few questions:

(1) The diference in the offers for Negotiated price is $1500.00. Is dealer likely to split the difference?

(2) Or should I hold out for 1K over invoice. I have seen such quotes on the message boards, but who are these dealers? I realize that with PC delivery I can order from any dealer and am willing to do so. Can someone PM me with the name of a dealer who did Buy Rate, Min Acq, and 1K over invoice?

(3) Doesn't PC Delivery save the dealer some bucks? I.E., they don't have to keep the car in their inventory so that should save them some bucks, right?
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:40 AM
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If you take 5 minutes to read this thread you will understand how wrong you are.
Yea, I'll go to hours of headaches to save 20 bucks a month.. Sorry, I have better things to do.
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:56 AM
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Yea, I'll go to hours of headaches to save 20 bucks a month.. Sorry, I have better things to do.
$20 x 12 = $240 * 3 = $720

it adds up.
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Old 01-19-2007, 11:06 AM
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$20 x 12 = $240 * 3 = $720

it adds up.

It is minimal in big picture.
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Old 01-19-2007, 11:57 AM
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Yea, I'll go to hours of headaches to save 20 bucks a month.. Sorry, I have better things to do.
Yet you'll spend time posting garbage that doesn't help anyone out? Your priorities are all out of whack. We are all here to learn how to compare and get the best lease deal, not here to coddle dealers and help subsidize their Viagra(tm) prescriptions.
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:24 PM
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Leasing offers for 335I Sedan in Southeastern PA

(2) Or should I hold out for 1K over invoice. I have seen such quotes on the message boards, but who are these dealers?
Anyone willing to share (PM or Here) which dealers gave 1k over invoice/buy rates for PC deliveries? I have yet to find one for a new 335i coupe...

Thanks.
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Old 01-19-2007, 02:08 PM
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We did, but now we are out of them.
And my guys are telling me that allocation for them is over until March.
But I still have to make sure if that is correct information.

Will post once I have more info.


Best of Luck,
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Old 01-19-2007, 02:30 PM
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We did, but now we are out of them.
And my guys are telling me that allocation for them is over until March.
But I still have to make sure if that is correct information.

Will post once I have more info.


Best of Luck,
I dont need the car till' March .

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Old 01-22-2007, 12:28 AM
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Thanks!

I just wanted to say thank you for this thread. It has helped me see that a lease was a not a bad idea (I would have never considered leasing otherwise). It has also given me valuable information on lease details (down payment, MF, etc.).

Here's what I was able to get in the SF Bay Area:

335i Sedan

MSRP: 47045 Invoice: 43490
Cap Cost: 44490 + 825 Acquisition Fee
Cap Cost Reduction: 0
Residual: 63%
Security Deposits: 7+1
MF: 0.0019 - 0.00049 (MSD) = 0.00141
Monthly Payment (with 8.25% Santa Clara County, CA sales/use tax) = 585.78

Total Drive Off: 585.78 (1st month) + 4800 (MSD) + 45 (Doc Fee) + 347.75 (Registration)

I know the acquisition fee and MF are high (max markup), but the dealers that I contacted were unwilling to negotiate on those. Do you think this is an acceptable deal nonetheless?
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Old 01-22-2007, 06:32 AM
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MF: 0.0019 - 0.00049 (MSD) = 0.00141
Monthly Payment (with 8.25% Santa Clara County, CA sales/use tax) = 585.78

Total Drive Off: 585.78 (1st month) + 4800 (MSD) + 45 (Doc Fee) + 347.75 (Registration)

I know the acquisition fee and MF are high (max markup), but the dealers that I contacted were unwilling to negotiate on those. Do you think this is an acceptable deal nonetheless?
I would get quotes from several dealers prior to deciding. I found that most will beat that MF (at least on the East coast), particularly with the sedan. E-mail several shops (takes 5 minutes) and see by how much they are willing to beat that deal.
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Old 01-26-2007, 12:09 PM
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anyone here take advatage of the 22 month lease? I am going to be needing a bigger car in a few years but would like to alteast have this car for the next 22...
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Old 01-26-2007, 01:35 PM
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I have a question on reducing the money factor by giving a larger deposit close to $5k. Wouldn't you be better off putting the extra deposit in a 5% cd than reducing the money factor by about 1.2%? You may need more than $5k to get a 5% cd rate, but even the 3.5% cd shown on wellsfargo.com for a 36mo term is better isn't???
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Old 01-26-2007, 01:38 PM
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I have a question on reducing the money factor by giving a larger deposit close to $5k. Wouldn't you be better off putting the extra deposit in a 5% cd than reducing the money factor by about 1.2%? You may need more than $5k to get a 5% cd rate, but even the 3.5% cd shown on wellsfargo.com for a 36mo term is better isn't???
You're paying $5k to save a 1.2% of a much larger number.
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Old 01-26-2007, 01:39 PM
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You're paying $5k to save a 1.2% of a much larger number.
duh, thanks for pulling my head out!
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Old 01-26-2007, 01:54 PM
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I played with the numbers a little more using this calculator . . .

http://www.moneychimp.com/calculator...calculator.htm

Interest accrued between $20k at 1.2% and $5k at 5% in 3yrs isn't much ($76). Than again I could be looking at it all wrong again!
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Old 01-30-2007, 06:38 PM
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You are right, the differences in the numbers are not that big. In fact, in all this wheeling and dealing the differences are minute, but to some of us worth it.

I know for me particularly, I just hate getting taken advantage of and refuse to pay anything more than rock bottom, because I realize that 90% of what we have is a luxury which I can easily live without. Plus I realize that being consistently smart about every purchase does add up to thousands over time.

soclammer's point about not wasting time to spend a small amount of money is well taken, but why do you think he needs to spend so much time trolling the rest of us? Go enjoy your affluence and let us have our fun. Or maybe that's his source of fun.
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Old 01-30-2007, 07:01 PM
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How's this lease?

I just ordered my coupe. I think I got a pretty good lease for NYC. Let me know what you think?

335i Coupe
Prem Pkg
Sport Pkg
Navigation
Comfort Access
Paint

Monaco Blue
Black leather
Dark Burl Walnut Trim

MSRP: $48,320

Lease Terms: 36 months/ 12k Miles
Mopney Factor: .00175
Residual: 60%
NY tax: 8.375%

Monthly Payment (incl taxes): $660
Due upfront (1st, security, bank, dmv): $2,200

According to my lease calculation, I am getting the car at invoice of $45K?
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Old 01-31-2007, 02:43 PM
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The smart buyer (aka financially savvy) purchases a five-year-old Honda Accord LX and drives it until it falls apart.
+1 for the Accord idea. One problem....my Honda Accord will not fall apart . So after 10 years of ownership (1991 Accord EX), I am giving it to a friend who needs good transportation.
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Old 01-31-2007, 02:52 PM
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I just ordered my coupe. I think I got a pretty good lease for NYC. Let me know what you think?

335i Coupe
Prem Pkg
Sport Pkg
Navigation
Comfort Access
Paint

Monaco Blue
Black leather
Dark Burl Walnut Trim

MSRP: $48,320

Lease Terms: 36 months/ 12k Miles
Mopney Factor: .00175
Residual: 60%
NY tax: 8.375%

Monthly Payment (incl taxes): $660
Due upfront (1st, security, bank, dmv): $2,200

According to my lease calculation, I am getting the car at invoice of $45K?
Hard to tell. Did you pay MACO/Training? Your residual looks low to me given that 15K for 36 months got me a 61% residual. With the info you posted, seems like you paid somewhere near $45,500 but this is just an estimate.
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Old 02-01-2007, 07:05 AM
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Old 02-01-2007, 07:56 AM
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335i coupe
36 month lease rate .00205
15k miles
msrp 46470
sale price 40445
acquisitn fee 625
vehicle total 41070
state lic/regN 75
state other fees 66.50
residual 60% 27882
cash down 1655.61
total payment with tax includes 543.22

Im doing this deal next week!
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