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Old 09-23-2006, 03:24 PM
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The ED lease cap cost is calculated ED Invoice + Invoice Options +1250 in my case. This ended up being 5000 less than US MSRP, which the lease residual is based on. It is similar to puting the 5000 down at signing, only not actually putting the cash down. The lease starts 14 days before delivery in Munich, so we lose a couple months of driving from the lease while the car is on the boat, but we still get the same number of miles to drive. In my case the 2 & 3 year leases were exactly the same cost monthly, so I went with the 2 year.

The ED cars definetley DO NOT come from dealer allocation. This enables dealers to sell them closer to invoice than cars in their lot. It is EXTREMELY important to find a sales agent/dealer who has done several ED's before. There are many steps involved that are completely different from a regular sale.
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Old 09-25-2006, 06:47 AM
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Likewise.. if you are doing a MD deposit lease, it is usually best to call the finance department, as the sales guys are clueless for the most part.
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Old 09-25-2006, 02:16 PM
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perhaps we need a "worst lease" thread

A 2007 328 sedan. $45,320 cap cost, which includes zero discount from MSRP. 36 months, 10K/year. $719.44 per month, which includes MSD discounting and $2100 drive off payment cost. Note that this is the dealer's offer. I'm thinking carefully about it. Okay I'm done :-)
I guess I'm going to have to pass on it.
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Old 09-25-2006, 04:47 PM
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Damn. do i got an update on my order,

I changed dealers - out of the blue a CA offered $580 over invoice on a 07' 335ci

2007 335ci:
Montego Blue (Metalic Paint)
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M.S.R.P. $43,270.00

CA's price (orders only, only until tomorrow 9/26/2006)
$41,008.00 + tax,lic,doc.

Not sure if im leasing or buying, but lease would be market rate @ 3yr/15k miles 58% .0020
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Old 09-26-2006, 04:38 PM
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I decided to go 24 months / 15k miles. Going to put down 7 security deposits and zero cap cost reduction.

I'll let you know how I do.
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Old 09-26-2006, 07:54 PM
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Ok guys new to this board so I need some help. I live in Edgewater NJ and I am looking for either the coupe or sedan ( rather have the coupe ) with sports package, Premium package and navigation in Montego Blue. I have been reading this thread.

1. Advantages of ED?
2. Best MF and residual?
3. Looking to stay around 600-630 lease.


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Old 09-26-2006, 09:19 PM
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Ok guys new to this board so I need some help. I live in Edgewater NJ and I am looking for either the coupe or sedan ( rather have the coupe ) with sports package, Premium package and navigation in Montego Blue. I have been reading this thread.

1. Advantages of ED?
2. Best MF and residual?
3. Looking to stay around 600-630 lease.


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great lease deal

I have a 335i coupe with space metallic gray, coral red leather, zsp,zpp, and heated seats. I signed a check for 2600 and payments are 715. That includes 36 months, 15k per year and the wheel/tire protection package. i think i did ok. any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Ok guys new to this board so I need some help. I live in Edgewater NJ and I am looking for either the coupe or sedan ( rather have the coupe ) with sports package, Premium package and navigation in Montego Blue. I have been reading this thread.

1. Advantages of ED?
2. Best MF and residual?
3. Looking to stay around 600-630 lease.


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2007 BMW 335 Series 335i Coupe / Compare Instant Lease Quotes

24 mo/15k mi Residual Value 69% of MSRP .00200 Base Money Factor Rate
36 mo/15k mi Residual Value 58% of MSRP .00200 Base Money Factor Rate
48 mo/15k mi Residual Value 45% of MSRP .00319 Base Money Factor Rate
60 mo/15k mi Residual Value 36% of MSRP .00319 Base Money Factor Rate

2007 BMW 335 Series 335i Sedan

24 mo/15k mi Residual Value 71% of MSRP .00270 Base Money Factor Rate
36 mo/15k mi Residual Value 61% of MSRP .00270 Base Money Factor Rate
48 mo/15k mi Residual Value 45% of MSRP .00319 Base Money Factor Rate
60 mo/15k mi Residual Value 37% of MSRP .00319 Base Money Factor Rate

You can get lower MF by putting down MSD. I don't know much about the ED method, but i'm looking into it now... looks like the guys are saving over 100 a month using ED. And are saving about $2800 on the cap cost, with the residual staying constant... I believe it is taking 6-8 weeks once you ship it back to U.S.
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Old 09-27-2006, 07:15 AM
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I have a 335i coupe with space metallic gray, coral red leather, zsp,zpp, and heated seats. I signed a check for 2600 and payments are 715. That includes 36 months, 15k per year and the wheel/tire protection package. i think i did ok. any thoughts would be appreciated.

Not enough information. Provide the MSRP, Capt Cost, Residual, MF, and I can tell you if the deal came out right.
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Old 09-27-2006, 07:22 AM
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2007 BMW 335 Series 335i Coupe / Compare Instant Lease Quotes

24 mo/15k mi Residual Value 69% of MSRP .00200 Base Money Factor Rate
36 mo/15k mi Residual Value 58% of MSRP .00200 Base Money Factor Rate
48 mo/15k mi Residual Value 45% of MSRP .00319 Base Money Factor Rate
60 mo/15k mi Residual Value 36% of MSRP .00319 Base Money Factor Rate

2007 BMW 335 Series 335i Sedan

24 mo/15k mi Residual Value 71% of MSRP .00270 Base Money Factor Rate
36 mo/15k mi Residual Value 61% of MSRP .00270 Base Money Factor Rate
48 mo/15k mi Residual Value 45% of MSRP .00319 Base Money Factor Rate
60 mo/15k mi Residual Value 37% of MSRP .00319 Base Money Factor Rate

You can get lower MF by putting down MSD. I don't know much about the ED method, but i'm looking into it now... looks like the guys are saving over 100 a month using ED. And are saving about $2800 on the cap cost, with the residual staying constant... I believe it is taking 6-8 weeks once you ship it back to U.S.
Add 0.0003 to MF for ED deals...BMWFS will make one payment but your ED lease starts 2 weeks before your delivery and your car typically takes two months to get back on the West Coast. Big advantage is you get to use the US MSRP to calculate residual while being able to take advantage of the ED invoice pricing.

I considered ED but the savings on a 24 month lease was only about $2400 total...taking into account the two additional months I would be without a car gets the savings down to about $1100 or so which means it would have paid for flights for two out there...still not a bad deal but not spectacular (I have been to Germany twice already and love it)...ED would make more sense if you are paying cash and have an extra car at home already so the wait doesn't cost more money...plus that two month wait after driving the car for a week or so would drive me even more nuts.

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Old 09-27-2006, 11:14 AM
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ya not worth it in my situation and 24 month lease...good to have the option though.
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Old 09-27-2006, 11:52 AM
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$662.00 p/m

47K
zero down
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12K p/m
61%
Hi what dealership did you go to get that deal? Does your monthly payment includes sales tax?


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Old 09-27-2006, 12:14 PM
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ED Lease

The savings is roughly $100/month by doing ED. You don't necessarily lose the two months while its coming over the atlantic, you still have the miles to drive available. The only way to save money is if you have frequent flyer miles you can fly for free with, which I am doing. You also need to able to get away from work a few days and be able to wait a few months to get your car. Not a problem for me.

Most people do ED for the awesome experience, with the savings paying for the trip.
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Old 09-27-2006, 10:25 PM
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...plus that two month wait after driving the car for a week or so would drive me even more nuts.

2 month without a car? So there is no way the dealer will let me keep the current car I have and wait until my ED car arrives in the US?!! Is there anyway to go around this because thats a whole lota dough to spend on a loaner car for 2 months.
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Old 09-28-2006, 08:16 AM
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You could negotiate the dealer letting you keep your old car two months, but I am pretty sure the deal will benefit the dealer more than you. The best way to handle this is to sell your car privaately when you get the new one. Of course you can't use it as a down payment then, but you will get more selling privately anyway.
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Old 09-28-2006, 10:49 AM
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I am going to sell my car privately. The dealer said BMW FS when they get my application to lease the new car will aprove me only if I sell/trade in current vehicle. Is he giving me some sort of BS or is that true. He even went into lengths to show me the FS screen on the computer were another customer of his was approved under the same condition. He told me I would have to be making serious dough to keep both cars at the same time.

Seriously Confused!
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Old 09-28-2006, 11:52 AM
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Old 09-28-2006, 12:49 PM
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I had no problem leasing the new one while keeping my old car. I had excellent credit though. The dealer may be telling you the truth on your individual situation. They do take into acount how much you make, especially if you are still making payments on the old car. Can you get a co-signer?
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Old 09-28-2006, 03:13 PM
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I had no problem leasing the new one while keeping my old car. I had excellent credit though. The dealer may be telling you the truth on your individual situation. They do take into acount how much you make, especially if you are still making payments on the old car. Can you get a co-signer?
I haven't even sent in my application for for approval, don't you do that two weeks before you pick up your car for ED? I want to order the 335i Coupe within the next couple weeks. So I think he was just assuming what the BMWFS would say to me. My situation I just graduated college last December and my salary is about $70,000 a year. My credit is good (not great) but I was approved for my last bmw (with my own bank) brand new without any problems. Should I do a pre-approval for the car now to make sure I know what BMWFS will say?
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Old 09-28-2006, 03:39 PM
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I haven't even sent in my application for for approval, don't you do that two weeks before you pick up your car for ED? I want to order the 335i Coupe within the next couple weeks. So I think he was just assuming what the BMWFS would say to me. My situation I just graduated college last December and my salary is about $70,000 a year. My credit is good (not great) but I was approved for my last bmw (with my own bank) brand new without any problems. Should I do a pre-approval for the car now to make sure I know what BMWFS will say?

Do you own the 325 now or do you still owe money on it ?


Your going to take a big depreciation hit on it and hopefully you have enough equity in the car that you won't be upside down on your loan.
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Old 09-28-2006, 03:56 PM
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Concentrate on sales price, acq fee, MF, MSD's, residual and misc. fees...if you educate yourself on these and bargain well the payment will fall into place.
Greg, wouldn't the big picture really come down to one thing ... how much does car A cost over the 2 or 3 yr lease term. I am talking the total of everything from the $$ upfront to the total of the payments.

I usually like to buy my cars for cash but when I got my Audi I ended up doing a 24 month lease ... the total cost was around $23k + sales tax which in the big picture financially is pretty good to me for a $58k car.
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Old 09-28-2006, 04:02 PM
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Do you own the 325 now or do you still owe money on it ?


Your going to take a big depreciation hit on it and hopefully you have enough equity in the car that you won't be upside down on your loan.
I still owe money on it ($24,000). KBB is the same amount so I just want to get even when I sell it. CarMAX dealership offered me $22,500 to buy it. Another possiblity besides private party selling or trade in. They usually give you somewhere in the middle.
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I would suggest you go to another dealer because they sound full of it, after hearing your latter posts. Also, you could get pre-approved before the 14 days, which would be good to do. I think BMWFS will lock in the lease rates for 60 days.
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I think my dealer was full of it as well. I just didn't feel comfortable with him. He also said he would either charge me an extra $250 to the negotiated price of the car OR free floor mats. He said he was going to get the money somewhere. I thought what an a**!!
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