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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 08-18-2010, 06:05 PM
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One of these days, I'm going to get one of those things, find someone who can cut a blank, get a key remote from Ebay with an old chip and a blank blade in it, and make me a new key (and EWS program keys for other folks cheap). Worth it? Probably not. But I'll bet I can have the machine paid for by payments from many individuals who want to avoid the dealer trap.
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Old 08-18-2010, 07:35 PM
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...is there any way to unprogram the remote now? I am returning it back to the eBay seller and ...info on how to erase a remote from the car's memory, that would be great, thanks a lot to everyone!
To "unprogram" a remote key from your car's memory...all you have to do is program a remote key and don't do the key you're going to return. After the 30 second window to begin programming any additional keys (afer initializing a key)...no other remote key will lock/unlock the car.

That's why the instructions tell you to have ALL of your remote keys with you when you reinitialize one...they ALL must be reinitialized. The ones not programmed during the same session will loose the FZV/DWA programming.
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Old 08-18-2010, 11:25 PM
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Just tried that, worked great! I now feel great that the remote I am sending back won't work on my car, thanks a lot! My next trip will be to the dealer with 200 bucks I'll kiss goodbye
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Old 08-19-2010, 01:04 AM
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Hi.. What I did was to buy a blank key from Ebay, and get it cut by a UK co called Timpsons (Shoe Repairers) using my old key as a template.
All I did then was to take the old key apart (2 screws under the id cover on the back) remove the circuit board with the battery attached and plastic bubble cover, also most important..remove the small grey chip, and put these into the new key. No re programing was needed and the new key works fine both remote locking / unlocking and also starts the car without any problems.

Hope this helps.

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The above was used on the older style keys, (E39) so may not be applicable to the newer ones.

If all else fails go to the stealer !!
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Old 08-19-2010, 11:42 AM
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I guess I have to go to the stealer and let them have my $200!
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Old 08-19-2010, 12:00 PM
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Bummer ...Here in the UK they are about 65..
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Old 08-19-2010, 12:04 PM
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Yeah, unfortunately they don't ship keys, it's the extension of their security and money making policies
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Old 09-15-2010, 01:41 PM
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Thanks QSilver7!! I was able to program my key by following the steps you gave.
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Old 09-15-2010, 10:25 PM
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Yeah, unfortunately they don't ship keys, it's the extension of their security and money making policies
Ummm. According to Sean, they (BMW NA) do ship keys (& it's cheaper this way):
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e39...w-cluster.html

Just FYI for anyone.
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Old 09-16-2010, 01:12 AM
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Yes, this is one of the car/key memory options that must be coded using BMW GT-1 or MoDic...or if you have the aftermarket software that allows access to this BMW proprietary features (PA Soft/Progman/etc).

Can't be done by a DIY'er without the proper equipment.
What if I want the lights to blink while openning or closing? can this be done by a DIY?
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Old 04-25-2011, 08:45 PM
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can some tell me why i just had the car serviced at the dealers and now my key wonlt lock my doors . i tried the steps to reprogram but not working still .the key does however unlock the car and trunk...any ideas?
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Old 04-26-2011, 03:21 PM
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can some tell me why i just had the car serviced at the dealers and now my key wonlt lock my doors . i tried the steps to reprogram but not working still .the key does however unlock the car and trunk...any ideas?
We need more information...it could be several things but don't know which way to go because there's not car information...unless you're asking the e39 forum to answer a question for your 02 3 series.

Do you have the old style or new style key....what year and model BMW are you asking this question for?

Help us help you better....provide us details/info so that we can better answer your question.
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Old 06-09-2011, 01:03 PM
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Smile Self-programming a new transponder key BMW 330Ci UK 53 plate

I have a UK right hand drive 53 plate BMW 330Ci M-Sport (2003 manufacture) that only came with one transponder key (in the shape of a diamond).

The key was dropped in the boot/trunk by my wife (by accident) and then the boot was shut. The car locked itself and we had no way of getting in to the car.

A number of options existed:

1. Smash the back window, remove the speaker and use the catch to drop the rear seats to recover the key. Expensive: 150-250 for new back window)

2. Call AA/RAC and have them inflate the back window away from the door frame, release the central locking and repeat speaker trick (see point 1).

3. Contact BMW for a new transponder key that would allow me to gain access to the car without damaging it.

Of course, all of my documents and corresponding identity of ownership was in the glove-box of the car.

Armed with a photo of the Vechicle Unique Identifier (located in the black stripe below the window wipers on the passenger side) and various other photos to 'prove it was my car' (luckily the car was parked on the driveway of my house) I called BMW and they arranged the delivery of a new key within 24 hours.

The key needed to be picked up from the dealership in person and they took a payment of 176 from my card (I bought a new transponder key and a 'wallet' key which is now kept in the house at all times).

Returning to the car, I was able to release the central locking with the actual key in the lock; the transponder did not work (it had not yet been programmed). I had to program the transponder of the new key first, to then use it to release the boot, and hey presto - there was the original key. So now I had two transponder keys.

Hats off to QSilver for the description on how to program more than one transponder key. It works a treat for me. This is what I did:

1. With both keys, sit in the car with all windows and doors closed. Car was unlocked.
2. With one of the transponder keys, insert in to the ignition, turn so that all the lights on the dash come on. Wait 3 seconds and then turn the ignition off and remove the key.
3. Then hold the key to the rear view mirror and press and hold the top button on the diamond key (it's the one used to unlock the car). With this button remaining pressed, push the BMW button (round one in the middle used to lock the car) three times in quick succession.
4. Releasing the depressed top button should initiate a locking procedure on the central locking.
5. Now, with the second key, repeat steps 3 and 4. Don't do step 2 again!
6. When you are done, simply put one of the keys in the ignition, turn on and off within 3 seconds and that finalises the programming of the keys.

If done correctly, you should have a couple of fully functional transponder keys!

One final note - yes, the new key from BMW was expensive but we needed one anyway; it just brought that painful expense forward earlier than I would have liked. At least now though, we have two transponder keys and a third 'special back-up' in case we need it.

I will sleep well tonight ;-)
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Old 07-03-2011, 02:54 PM
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2007 BMW Keys Unlocks but wont lock...

My sets of keys will only unlock the car and trunk, it wont lock the car, VERY odd. It driving me well to drive my car, lol! Any luck or suggestions?

I dont see where a battery goes in , I read it needs to be charged in car which I do in LA with all the traffic, do I need to buy new keys or just reprogram?

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Old 07-04-2011, 07:57 AM
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My sets of keys will only unlock the car and trunk, it wont lock the car, VERY odd. It driving me well to drive my car, lol! Any luck or suggestions?

I dont see where a battery goes in , I read it needs to be charged in car which I do in LA with all the traffic, do I need to buy new keys or just reprogram?

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Two questions...

1. Do you have an e39 530i? Your subject line says you have a 2007...the last e39 model year was 2003.

2. Did you read thru the whole thread? It is explained on the first page (see some of my earlier replies from around 2008) that there are multiple keys, the early ones can be opened, the later ones are sesaled. There are also some suggestions (like in post #11) that discuss other things to check if the reinitializing instructions aren't working. There may be some issues with your central locking system that needs to be fixed first...before the keyless entry system will work properly.
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Old 08-16-2011, 10:23 PM
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Great DIY

Thanks for this thread, worked like a charm for me. Took about 1 minute and all is new. It seems like my sluggish rear door lock is now working like he had a six pack of red bull. Very strange but I like it.
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Old 12-11-2011, 09:43 AM
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Jbros method worked for me after hours of trial and error. Thank you so much.
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Old 12-19-2011, 09:32 PM
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thanks for the tips on how to program my keys everyone, remember the spare key does not have to be in the ignition to be programed...it took me sometime and a headache to figure that out.
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:11 AM
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the spare key does not have to be in the ignition to be programed...
I realize this is an old thread resurrected so I will simply post the convenient compendium of related links in case others need this information in the future...

- How to replace the old-style BMW E39 square key battery (1) (2) (3) & how to replace the rubber key pads in the old style square keys (1) (2) & opening, charging, recoding, & battery replacement (1) of the new-style diamond key (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) & how to recharge off your BMW and how long a BMW key will last in the drawer before it needs that off-the-car recharging (1) & converting the old-style square key to the newer diamond shaped key (1) & the details on swapping the BMW diamond key transponder (1) & proper diamond key initializing (1) (2) & what to do if your key is locked inside your bimmer (1) & a description of the various types of BMW Remote, Illuminated, Spare/Wallet, & Valet/Service keys (1) (2) & a list of diamond key EWS, FZV, & DWA functions (1) (2) & all about the 10-key limit to programming your own keys at home (1) & a description of the ignition key ISN (individual serial number) ten-second rule (1) & what to do if you lost your only diamond key (1) or what to do if your BMW key was stolen (1)
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Old 01-16-2012, 07:21 PM
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Hi Qsilver7,

I have a 2004 BMW X5 E53 3.0i. Since both my keys are not working, I tried re programming my key as per your instruction from the image. Did few times on both the keys, but nothing happened. Could you please help me with it.

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Old 01-16-2012, 09:21 PM
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Hi Qsilver7,

I have a 2004 BMW X5 E53 3.0i. Since both my keys are not working, I tried re programming my key as per your instruction from the image. Did few times on both the keys, but nothing happened. Could you please help me with it.

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Hi...first...it important that you follow EACH step exactly...you can't fudge, skip, or combine any of the steps...if you do...the initialization will fail. So make sure that you follow EACH step correctly in these instructions below.
  • HINT:
    • KL R = ignition position 1 (not 2 or 3)
    • Remove key from ignition before moving to STEP 3
    • Do NOT insert 2nd remote key into ignition...start on STEP 3 (if you insert another key into the ignition you end the programming sequence...or you'll erase the previously programmed keys & they'll no longer remotely lock/unlock the car)



Second, the regular central locking system MUST be in 100% working order...if not, the keyless entry system won't work. So, lock the vehicle (manually) using the key in the door lock cylinder...then check each door/tailgate/fuel filler door to make sure that they ALL are locked. If one of them is NOT locked (like the fuel filler door)...then you MUST fix that issue before the keyless entry system will work.
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PO of my M5 has system codes to "urban mode" -- first push unlocks only driver, second rest of car, and all locks engage about 5 seconds after starting drive. Don't like it much, but know I can't change myself.
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Hi Qsilver7,

Thanks for the response. I tried it again but no luck. I checked all my doors as u said with manually locking. Everthing locks. Do you suspect whether my remote battery is dead? I might try and change the battery on one. What do u suggest?

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Old 01-17-2012, 06:22 PM
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great info. I just initialized one of the keys the seller told me it did not work. thanks.
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Old 01-18-2012, 09:47 AM
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Hi Qsilver7,

Thanks for the response. I tried it again but no luck. I checked all my doors as u said with manually locking. Everthing locks. Do you suspect whether my remote battery is dead? I might try and change the battery on one. What do u suggest?

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Do you know if either of the keys have NOT been used in a while. If they haven't...then there is the possibility that they could be depleted.

It takes a good 30 hours to completely recharge a fully discharged key battery. (I'm assuming you have the new style diamond shaped keys with the rechargeable battery inside) If you have the older (rubber head) key...then you can undo the 2 screws on the back and replace the battery with a CR 2016 battery that you can pick up from any battery vendor...even the watch kiosk at the mall would carry this type of battery.

If you have an automotive battery charger...then hook it up to the remote posts in the engine bay...insert the key into the ignition and turn it to POSITION 1...and leave it this way overnight (or for 30 hours). Then do the other key the next day....then when you know that both batteries are fully charged...try to initialize them.

Again, KL R= ignition position 1

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