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E30 (1982 - 1993)
God's Chariot. The E30 was produced primarily from 1982 through 1991. The cabriolet was the one exception which was produced through 1993.

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Old 08-01-2010, 07:03 PM
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Gasket is perfect...



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Got to love Formula88 and Scotch-Brite



Gonna pick up the side-exit water pump in the morning, getting tired and don't know if the the new head will go back on tonite or tomorrow after my 9-5er. Sucks having a full time job, shop and program part-time at the CNC machine shop :/ 4 kids, 6 cars and a sick mother in law living with us is taxing when only one of us works

Nice thing about these parts not moving very fast is that I get to put one of each on my car, w00t! I powder-coated them satin black and polished the raised letters. Kinda like the way the ETA covers look a little better, but will probably go with the i cover...





EDIT:

I just realized the there isn't a cylinder indication sensor here and am toying with the idea of leaving the eta harness in, and just burning a new eeprom chip for it, or try to run without it for now. Would be a lot more work to leave the 027 DME in there because of tuning time, but if I did, there might be a market for chips with an 885 head swap and 027 DME/harness...

BUT! AllData says the car will just revert to batch fire if the sensor is damaged/missing and since the current ECU is batch fire, then the sensor can just wait - who needs sequential injection anyways ROFL.

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Old 08-01-2010, 07:45 PM
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Old 08-01-2010, 08:40 PM
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sweet intake...that is the projected look for mine...
Glad you like. I sell them for $130 mani - $75 for covers, plus shipping of course.

Hit me up at: john at 60inclusive dot com

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u burn the eprom chip and count me in for one..... im working on a secret project IX that could use it
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Old 08-01-2010, 10:24 PM
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u burn the eprom chip and count me in for one..... im working on a secret project IX that could use it

Problem is, unless you have the same exact setup as me, the tune would be useless. The Motronics has no way of dataloging, so I can't even help your tune over the interwebz - takes a wideband and at least a butt-dyno with a trained eye, real dyno is best.

I do have the 027 DME base binaries as well as the binaries that you buy on ebay (for the 173, and 027 DME's, turbo and N/A with multiple inj sizes), chips are cheap and the burn only takes a few minutes, $25 covers it, but you are on your own if things don't go right. We tune GM ECM's via internet, but that's because they have factory baud data going through the OBD1 port - we can see all the voltages and feedback for every sensor in the mix...

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Old 08-04-2010, 05:39 PM
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Decided to go with the Motronic 1.3 and have gathered the remainder of parts. Now just have to finish a couple things for customers at the shop before I can get back to mine, looks like tomorrow I can take the day off from my 9-5er and get this thing on it's way
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Old 08-05-2010, 02:39 AM
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What year Taurus are those skirts from? I'm broke and look for the deals/mods too

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Old 08-05-2010, 04:53 PM
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1998, I think?

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Old 08-08-2010, 02:23 PM
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Going real slow, making everything look pretty and neat

Got the harness in...



Since I have the old style starter, had to solder the female spade connectors on the wires...



and we have an 885 heads w00t!





Maybe I'm anal, but I soaked the bolts in phosphoric acid both to clean them and give them a controlled oxide finish that will take forever to rust. They look like they are an alloy anyways lol...



Oh, and a new water pump...



Set the valve cover on...

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Old 08-08-2010, 03:13 PM
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New hose to bypass the TB, need that extra .005hp lol...



Look, it's almost an m20!

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Old 08-08-2010, 06:02 PM
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Appropriate injectors...



Most people skip this step, but I have had 1 snapped timing belt and one that stripped in my shop because they torqued the tensioner too tight, ABSOLUTELY MUST BE 16ft/lbs!



Timing cover is on, crank trigger installed (not there before lol)...



and look at the difference between the 200 and 885 castings, this gasket matches the 885 almost perfect, these ports are ridiculously small haha...

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Old 08-08-2010, 08:15 PM
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Well done for the night. Few more hours left. Still have to push the harness through the firewall, install TB, intake tubing, radiator, fan, weld in o2 bung close enough for the harness (or extend the wires), wire the tach to the ECU, tq the crank hub and put the accy belts in, and hopefully that's it to fire 'er up!

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Old 08-09-2010, 10:23 PM
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Nice work!

Curious why you didn't install headers while everything was apart.
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Old 08-09-2010, 10:49 PM
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Nice work!

Curious why you didn't install headers while everything was apart.
Thanks!

...and because when I build headers for it, they will go to a hair-dryer, dunno maybe build a set of long tubes for fun, I'm sure they will sell when it get's boosted. I have eeprom tuning/burning equipment and will play around with the stock tune first (bigger injectors/AFM etc), and I will use one of the t3/t4's off my Firebird motor since I just sold the motor (kept the twin turbo kit).

Well I am missing one part of the TB It's the little fitting for the brake booster, don;t know if I lost it when moving into the new shop, during the acid bath etc, or just never had it, but it's almost done. Tomorrow I'll jump the tach wire from the glovebox to the ECU and see how she sounds...





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Old 08-16-2010, 08:25 PM
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Update:

After taking a weekend off from the shop and a slight mishap on Thursday, need to remember next time to disconnect the batt when working on the car, fried the harness, but got a new one Fri

Not starting right away, replaced the main relays and she fired right up once the fuel lines were full!

I must have a vacuum leak somewhere cause when I give it gas, she wants to stall. Either that or I may have the TPS off a little. Took it off the TB to give it an acid bath, but marked it pretty good, we will see. My car sounds so crazy revving so high lol. Still need to connect the tach/econoguage, push the harness through the firewall and put on the fan/hose/shroud, but am so relieved she's running!

More details/pics to come...
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Old 08-17-2010, 04:51 PM
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It was the AFM, put the Motronic 1.3 AFM in it, cleared right up. Took her for a drive and all I can say is WOW what a difference. Need some shorter gears, even with the 2.93 lsd, it screams, but I haven't even been able to top out 3rd, 2nd takes me over 70 haha the speedo just climbs like mad. Feels almost as fast as my friends m50 swapped car (we used the Getrag 260 and same 2.93 diff). I have a 4.10 lsd here and am contemplating installing it, would really like a 3.73 or even a 3.42 out of a 5 series, but I'll probably use whats on hand. Looked funny going down the road in front of my shop, banging gears at ~6800rpm with no hood and the ECU tucked in the corner of the engine bay...
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wait so you just put an 885 head on a stock eta block.??
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wait so you just put an 885 head on a stock eta block.??
Yes. Also did the Motronic 1.3 upgrade. even with the 8.3:1 compression, this heap moves out. This combo is perfect for the project after next. Next is long headers, then it's turbo time.

Well, I was on the hywy 1/2 way through 3rd at ~130mph and blew off the A/C belt Shorter gears is a must. Can shift into 2nd at 45 and have to shift into 3rd at about 65, don't want to see how fast it is for fear of the law.

EDIT: I take that back, the CR is a little higher due to the .005" of the deck surface of the head, didn't CC the chambers, but it can't be much more than a point or two.

Have the instruments to measure here in the shop...


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Old 08-20-2010, 11:14 AM
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oh ok i must have missed the turbo part, i thought that the mod was the head itself.
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oh ok i must have missed the turbo part, i thought that the mod was the head itself.

Turbo is later. The video is the head and ECU swap.
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Took it to a dyno today just to see. Nothing too impressive 134whp at 5k, and 140.1tq at 4k. My injectors are too small, it was borderline 15's throughout the runs for afr.





I have some injectors from a Corvette that will be a hair under 22lb with the stock 3.0 bar BMW FPR, might actually be a bit much, really need about 19's (they will be 20# with the eta 2.5 bar FPR, hmm)...
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earlier u posted that u went 130.... in 3rd.. i'd like to call shenanigans
i went 135 once in my eta and i was going downhill on interstate with the wind blowing behind me. check ur speedo
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Old 09-08-2010, 07:28 PM
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earlier u posted that u went 130.... in 3rd.. i'd like to call shenanigans
i went 135 once in my eta and i was going downhill on interstate with the wind blowing behind me. check ur speedo
Did it have the 885 top end swap and Motronic 1.3?


Did you watch the video? I have to shift into 3rd at 70mph now (yes, 2nd goes to 70mph before it hits the NEW 6800 rev limter)...



I was at the top of third, I had no tach at all when the belt snapped, but at least I can read to 5k now lol.

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