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Old 12-20-2007, 04:54 AM
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By Cluster, u mean the roof remote module?
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Old 12-20-2007, 07:29 AM
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I mean the speedometer.
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Old 12-21-2007, 05:09 AM
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Why would anyone need to install a backup camera in a Z4? If I can not see what I am doing when I am backing up I just put the top down.
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Old 12-21-2007, 05:25 AM
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That's something of a drawn-out process when you've got the coupe.
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Old 12-21-2007, 05:43 PM
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X3 kit showed up

Pics of the kit content. Quality stuff.
Letter after the part name matches with post number 2, number 7.

Some of the cables are too long and have wires not used.
Will modify them.






















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Old 12-22-2007, 06:03 AM
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Thanks for the photo Ron, did you also purchase the OEM camera? A DIY would be great.

Hey Kav, don't know where to get the cluster. You might wanna try http://individual-cars.com/ I've bought a couple stuff from them and I am a quite happy.
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Old 12-22-2007, 07:18 AM
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Thanks for the photo Ron, did you also purchase the OEM camera? A DIY would be great.
No. Not going to pay $1099 plus shipping for one.
Probably go with the Eclipse front one. Not sure yet for the rear one.

Instructions are in post one and two.
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Old 12-22-2007, 09:12 PM
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Camera shopping

Stopped at a local audio place today that carries Eclipse.
Very accommodating. Excellent service. Manager also has a ti.
Had the rear one in stock. Pretty small, so may go with that.
He didn't have the front one in stock.
Camera has a cable 39.5 feet long terminated with a four pin connector.
Replace it with a four pin BMW connector and it will plug into the BMW control module.
Will discount 20%.

Also showed me a Pioneer one (DSP) that is like the new X5 one with the lines.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...D-BC20PA?tab=D

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pi...Manual0626.pdf

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pi...Manual0626.pdf
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Old 12-23-2007, 04:16 AM
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I installed the pioneer ND-BC2 in my Z, great color camera. I actualy removed the bumper cover cut a square hole in the bumper reinforcement bar, mounted the camera from the backside. Cut a square hole in the cover, minus the license cover. Drilled a 1/4 inch hole through the license plate and cover. You can not tell it's there. It does show the edges of hole in the license plate, just barely.
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Old 01-06-2008, 09:46 PM
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Rear oddment box removal

Have to remove the rear oddments box to install the camera stuff.
The door is a pain to remove and install for me.
When I added the phone door I removed it, but Alan Alfano installed it with me holding
the light.
Now I can't remove it. If I get it out, I will fix this problem.
In case I break the extended leather oddment box doing it, I checked the price.
$1420.00 retail.
Got a bunch of Winter mods going.
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Old 01-06-2008, 11:19 PM
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Have to remove the rear oddments box to install the camera stuff.
The door is a pain to remove and install for me.
When I added the phone door I removed it, but Alan Alfano installed it with me holding
the light.
Now I can't remove it. If I get it out, I will fix this problem.
In case I break the extended leather oddment box doing it, I checked the price.
$1420.00 retail.
Got a bunch of Winter mods going.
Darn interior parts prices. I hope you don't break it, or at least not in a way that can't be repaired and made better. Every time I've run into an unfriendly-to-disassembly interior part, I've made changes where possible. Fiberglass tabs on the glove box and underdash panel, disconnects on the hazard switch, real nut clips and machine screws instead of sheet metal screws and speed nuts, etc. Anything that makes me curse less the next time I have to get in there.

Is the camera mounted yet?
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Old 01-07-2008, 12:53 PM
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Is the camera mounted yet?
Don't have them yet.
Will temporary install and then purchase (local) the Eclipse rear camera to see if it works.
If it does, I will modify the cables and install it.

It's a BMW universal kit.
The main BMW harness is 17 feet long with wires that I don't need.
I need 4 feet.
The camera comes with a long cable (30+ feet) and different connector.
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Old 01-08-2008, 09:42 PM
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Have to remove the rear oddments box to install the camera stuff.
The door is a pain to remove and install for me.
When I added the phone door I removed it, but Alan Alfano installed it with me holding
the light.
Now I can't remove it. If I get it out, I will fix this problem.
In case I break the extended leather oddment box doing it, I checked the price.
$1420.00 retail.
Got a bunch of Winter mods going.
I removed the oddments box with the phone door cover in place.
Still have to fiqure out getting it back in.
Should have looked into this on the first removal.
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Old 01-08-2008, 09:44 PM
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Will be retrying the install my attempt at a review camera this Friday. Will update.
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Old 01-08-2008, 09:56 PM
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Will be retrying the install my attempt at a review camera this Friday. Will update.
Did they support the replacement?
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:05 PM
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Yes, a new unit was sent out immediately. The holidays have put delay on getting it installed..
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:06 PM
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Camera snag

Eclipse and Crutchfield would not tell me the pin out of the camera connector.
Haven't asked Pioneer yet.
They both have the power/switchbox mudule.

Took the front and rear camera prints and put them together camera wise.
Notice that the rear camera sees 6V. Front camera is 12V.
Not sure what that is all about. Hooked it up on my kitchen table and that is what it is.
Pioneer camera is 12V. No idea what Eclipse is.



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Old 01-08-2008, 10:08 PM
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X3 rear camera

Anyone know if the X3 rear camera can be removed from the trim piece?
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Old 01-10-2008, 06:10 PM
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UPDATE:
It looks like the GTNET module will not work with our cars. The shop that was doing the install tried everything and wasted about 10 hours trying to figure out whey the camera signal would only fliker on/off repeatedly. The camera is installed but I have not interface, so I either have to wait to see how Ron's project goes or gamble on the module from TVandNAV2go.

Any suggestions?
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Old 01-10-2008, 07:49 PM
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UPDATE:
It looks like the GTNET module will not work with our cars. The shop that was doing the install tried everything and wasted about 10 hours trying to figure out whey the camera signal would only fliker on/off repeatedly. The camera is installed but I have not interface, so I either have to wait to see how Ron's project goes or gamble on the module from TVandNAV2go.

Any suggestions?
You replaced the module. Did you replace the camera too?
I'll be temporarily installing mine this weekend.
It works fine on the kitchen table, switch wise.
I still have to find some cameras.
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Old 01-11-2008, 06:25 AM
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I removed the oddments box with the phone door cover in place.
Still have to fiqure out getting it back in.
Should have looked into this on the first removal.
Just removed my entire centre part on the roadster to fit the Intravee unit in there. Removed the phone cover as well and re-fitted it. Is that the part you mean you have trouble with? I removed the two tiny screws first, then had to pull hard at the cover to take it off. Inserting it back was similar, push hard back in whilst pressing the clip at the side to make it slide in.

I needed it out to take the oddment tray out. Maybe you are talking about different parts though ...
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Old 01-11-2008, 10:53 AM
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Removed the phone cover as well and re-fitted it. Is that the part you mean you have trouble with? I removed the two tiny screws first, then had to pull hard at the cover to take it off. Inserting it back was similar, push hard back in whilst pressing the clip at the side to make it slide in.
That's the part. I removed the first one. Pulling so hard is getting to the break point.
Now that I can remove the oddments box along with the cover it's no longer an issue.
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:00 PM
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You replaced the module. Did you replace the camera too?
I'll be temporarily installing mine this weekend.
It works fine on the kitchen table, switch wise.
I still have to find some cameras.
They replaced the box itself, then the whole wiring harness. Then they just tried another camera they had in the shop and got the same results. I have not idea why it isn't working but this is pretty disappointing.. I am still looking for a cheaper alternative.
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:49 PM
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They replaced the box itself, then the whole wiring harness. Then they just tried another camera they had in the shop and got the same results. I have not idea why it isn't working but this is pretty disappointing.. I am still looking for a cheaper alternative.
Bimmernav sells the BMW kit with camera for $575.
http://www.bimmernav.com/store/catal...roducts_id=167
They sell a license plate camera with a voltage spec. of 6V to 35V which will work with the BMW kit for the rear or front.
What vender makes the camera you have? Would like to see what else they have.
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:50 PM
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They replaced the box itself, then the whole wiring harness. Then they just tried another camera they had in the shop and got the same results. I have not idea why it isn't working but this is pretty disappointing.. I am still looking for a cheaper alternative.
That's the risk for the first time. There are very few people that will take that risk.

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