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E90/E92/E93 M3 (2008 - 2014)
4th generation E90 M3 sedan, E92 M3 coupe and E93 M3 convertible. The last of the naturally aspirated M3s, powered by a 4.0 liter V8 making 414hp and 295 lb-ft of torque.

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Old 04-12-2007, 01:06 AM
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Missing a shift on the new M3, Do you worry?

It'll be the most horrifying thing to happen to a car. Imagine on 5th, looking for 6th, at 8000rpm, got 4th... Boom! It might happen, especially late at night, kinda tired, no cars on the road...

Just thinking about this give me chills. I think I'm gonna wait for the SMG...

What do you think?
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Old 04-12-2007, 10:14 AM
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I don't figure the risk is any different than shifting at the limit when the limits are lower. You'll still bend the valves in most econoboxes if you do that. I had one of the early S2000's, shifting at 9K RPM! Second gear syncromesh was a weakness in that design (replaced twice under warranty, agreed not my fault). And before that, an Integra GSR (8K RPM) that made 80K miles before trade-in. Can't wait to try this new motor.
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Old 04-12-2007, 10:24 AM
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At 8000 rpm in 5th in an E92 M3 I'd have to guess that you'd be travelling at >140mph.
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Old 04-12-2007, 10:29 AM
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At 8000 rpm in 5th in an E92 M3 I'd have to guess that you'd be travelling at >140mph.
A little too fast for "late at night, a kinda tired", don't you think
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Old 04-12-2007, 10:33 AM
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This is the kind of think I think about all the time.

This, too...

What would happen if one of the Airplanes that flies overhead on their descent to the airport were to drop one of it's engines off and it were to land right on top of my house? Should I move? Or install some sort of protective shield?
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Old 04-12-2007, 11:14 AM
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This is the kind of think I think about all the time.

This, too...

What would happen if one of the Airplanes that flies overhead on their descent to the airport were to drop one of it's engines off and it were to land right on top of my house? Should I move? Or install some sort of protective shield?
Shield....I'd definitely go with the shield.
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Old 04-12-2007, 11:17 AM
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What would happen if one of the Airplanes that flies overhead on their descent to the airport were to drop one of it's engines off and it were to land right on top of my house? Should I move? Or install some sort of protective shield?
Kevlar umbrella.

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Old 04-12-2007, 12:00 PM
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Shield....I'd definitely go with the shield.
Do you ever get a little freaked out driving on the 51 just west of Sky Harbour? I used to live up in Phoenix, and sometimes it seems like the planes are about 10 feet over your head on that stretch of highway.
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Old 04-12-2007, 12:11 PM
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This is the kind of think I think about all the time.

This, too...

What would happen if one of the Airplanes that flies overhead on their descent to the airport were to drop one of it's engines off and it were to land right on top of my house? Should I move? Or install some sort of protective shield?
You're more likely to get hit by an icy BM than an engine...
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I just figure that if I can't afford to replace the engine, I shouldn't be driving that hard. And I figure that I could have blown up at least a couple of engines for what ditching an SMG II car cost me.
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Old 04-12-2007, 06:41 PM
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You're more likely to get hit by an icy BM than an engine...
Icy BM or ICBM?
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Old 04-12-2007, 06:45 PM
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The former. Ever read Spider Robinson?
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Just pretend that 4th is the top gear and you'll never have to worry about that. Hmm....that might not work, what if you go from 3rd to 2nd when you want 4th? OK, here's the new plan just shift from 1st to 2nd and stop there. You should be able to do 65 in 2nd so you'll be fine on the highway and you'll NEVER have to worry about a miss shift again. Problem solved, you're welcome.
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Old 04-13-2007, 05:51 PM
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Do you ever get a little freaked out driving on the 51 just west of Sky Harbour? I used to live up in Phoenix, and sometimes it seems like the planes are about 10 feet over your head on that stretch of highway.
Yup. Same thing on 143 off I-10. Planes on final approach seem like they're 50 ft. off the ground when coming in for a landing!
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Old 04-13-2007, 09:25 PM
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It'll be the most horrifying thing to happen to a car. Imagine on 5th, looking for 6th, at 8000rpm, got 4th... Boom! It might happen, especially late at night, kinda tired, no cars on the road...

Just thinking about this give me chills. I think I'm gonna wait for the SMG...

What do you think?
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Why would you worry about it any more on the new M3 than the current e46 M3?
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Old 04-16-2007, 08:56 PM
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Why would you worry about it any more on the new M3 than the current e46 M3?
Not a big difference, but I bet the S65 will be a bit more to rebuild than the S54. Aluminum block, more pistons, valves, etc.
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This is the silliest thread I've seen in the M3 forum. If you worry about this, you should be driving a low horsepower slushie, as the extra power of an M3 could get you into trouble also.
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Yup. Same thing on 143 off I-10. Planes on final approach seem like they're 50 ft. off the ground when coming in for a landing!
Usually I like it when my plane lands lower than 50ft up in the air.
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Old 04-22-2007, 10:49 PM
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This is the silliest thread I've seen in the M3 forum. If you worry about this, you should be driving a low horsepower slushie, as the extra power of an M3 could get you into trouble also.
Do you own an M3? I just had my ECU sent to an BMWNA engineer in NJ due to my VANOS destruction. The dealer tried to blame it on me! I had a major worry.....$16,000 for a new motor installation on a car with 5000 miles. I have the means but can think of alot of great add-ons for my car for that kind of money. It was covered becuase there was no "money shift" recorded.

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Old 04-27-2007, 08:26 AM
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Proper shift technique will prevent misshifts: http://www.shortshifter.com/techniques2.htm

The BMW shift levers are actually ergonomically designed for this sort of shifting. Note that rather than using the typical ball on stick design, their shifters are shaped more like handles. Ever wonder why?

I always cringe when I watch people (most people who drive a manual trans) simply grope the shifter from the top and slam it from gear to gear. Of course, most people driving a manual trans don't know how to downshift properly, either.
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Old 04-30-2007, 03:57 PM
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This is the silliest thread I've seen in the M3 forum. If you worry about this, you should be driving a low horsepower slushie, as the extra power of an M3 could get you into trouble also.

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