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Old 05-27-2007, 09:19 AM
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The 335i and 328i are essentially the same car when the car isn't under full acceleration. So I should pay significantly more money just so I can protect my fagile ego when I choose to street race someone with a cheaper car? To all 335i stop light racers, beware of those ricers with well-running turbo Civics. How will you live with yourselves when it hisses and pops past you? I have an E46 330Ci and horsepower was not the reason I didn't buy a 325Ci instead - I wanted the bigger brakes, OEM 18"s and a few other things that make them different. If you think that doesn't make me an enthusiasts, I'll bet my 330Ci has more track miles on it than 99% of 335is will ever have.
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Old 05-27-2007, 09:26 AM
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The 335i and 328i are essentially the same car when the car isn't under full acceleration. So I should pay significantly more money just so I can protect my fagile ego when I choose to street race someone with a cheaper car? To all 335i stop light racers, beware of those ricers with well-running turbo Civics. How will you live with yourselves when it hisses and pops past you? I have an E46 330Ci and horsepower was not the reason I didn't buy a 325Ci instead - I wanted the bigger brakes, OEM 18"s and a few other things that make them different. If you think that doesn't make me an enthusiasts, I'll bet my 330Ci has more track miles on it than 99% of 335is will ever have.
I think you will see more non-turbo BMW's on the track. The 335 turbo was a patch to provide more interim power. However, sustained power on a track would cause issues. The 335 runs very hot. Pushing it on a track on a hot day is asking for trouble and a voided warranty. This was seen in the early stages of testing from a few review mags. I think this is why the M3 is getting a V8.
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Old 05-27-2007, 09:34 AM
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I know what you mean. My 330Ci "only" had 225HP (E46), and it used to kinda piss me off that for the price ....

Remember GlenGarry Glen Ross ?

Moss: What's your name?
Blake: F**K YOU, that's my name!! You know why, Mister? 'Cause you drove a Hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar BMW. That's my name!!

Mrs. Rizzo had an Elantra for a couple of weeks whilst they repaired her car. I never got out of the BMW grabbing my lower back in pain.....
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Old 05-27-2007, 09:43 AM
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Power on demand!

For me, the OP's point on fast off the line isn't the key of the 335 engine, although, there are a couple of on ramps in the Santa Cruz Mountains that 0-60 in 5.x seconds does come in handy. The real beauty in this engine is the power across the entire range and in most any gear, power when and where you need it, and that isn't always from a dead stop.

That's what sold me.
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Old 05-27-2007, 10:00 AM
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I have these younger guys trying to race me all the time. With their ricer cars. I never bother with them. They PROBABLY can smoke me with their modded cars, but who cares, I drive a Bimmer and they don't and I will not bring myself to their level.
I think I can speak to this (several years experience hanging out amongst the tuner crowd).

95% of the "ricer" cars will not be able to touch a 335, and the 328 would be tough for maybe 60%.


Speed is fun, but it all comes down to enjoyment. There will always be a faster car out there, anyone can make nearly any car beat anything else. It just takes a checkbook.

edit. Oh, and street racing is very illegal, best to avoid that anyway.
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Old 05-27-2007, 11:47 AM
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Digital camera manufacturers are now engaged in a race to see who can stuff more megapixels into the tiniest of cameras. The idea being that with more pixels you can enlarge ever smaller areas of your picture to get big enlargements. However, very few people actually ever do that. And the enthusiasts know that the tradeoff may not be worth it. So how much hp is enough? For some, the sky is the limit, for those who don't street race or need the bragging rights, less is more.
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Old 05-27-2007, 12:37 PM
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Anyone considering a 328 vs a 335 please listen to me...spend the extra few $K and buy the 335. I own a 328 E92 coupe and I constantly get burned at lights by run of the mill cars. I wish I had waited for the 335xi instead of buying the 328xi. Dont listen to all these guys who say the 328 is more balanced yada yada yada. There is no comparison. The 335 is a right sporting car and the 328 is really an entry level vehicle to get new people into the brand. The 328 handles well but $45K for a car with 230HP....what was I thinking?

I got smoked by a Hyundai Elantra V6 last week. A HYUNDAI.
Why did you buy a 328xi if you are into stoplight races? A Mazdaspeed 3 is the car you need. Looks like you didn't do your homework.
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Old 05-27-2007, 12:56 PM
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Now I know how the F1 guys feel at a drag strip. LOL.
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The 335 runs very hot. Pushing it on a track on a hot day is asking for trouble and a voided warranty.
No, you won't void your warranty!

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This was seen in the early stages of testing from a few review mags. I think this is why the M3 is getting a V8.
They were testing the automatics with only one oil cooler. The Sports package manuals have two oil coolers. As of March '07, both manual and auto have two coolers.
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Old 05-27-2007, 01:09 PM
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I am new to the forum. This is an interesting and informative discussion.

After reading this looks like an 08 328I coupe. Thanks
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Old 05-27-2007, 01:54 PM
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Anyone considering a 328 vs a 335 please listen to me...spend the extra few $K and buy the 335. I own a 328 E92 coupe and I constantly get burned at lights by run of the mill cars. I wish I had waited for the 335xi instead of buying the 328xi. Dont listen to all these guys who say the 328 is more balanced yada yada yada. There is no comparison. The 335 is a right sporting car and the 328 is really an entry level vehicle to get new people into the brand. The 328 handles well but $45K for a car with 230HP....what was I thinking?

I got smoked by a Hyundai Elantra V6 last week. A HYUNDAI.

BMW's aren't ment for drag racing, get a mustang for that..!
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Old 05-27-2007, 02:05 PM
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No, you won't void your warranty!

They were testing the automatics with only one oil cooler. The Sports package manuals have two oil coolers. As of March '07, both manual and auto have two coolers.
they only have oil coolers on the sports package? That makes no sense,
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Old 05-27-2007, 02:09 PM
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I know what you mean. My 330Ci "only" had 225HP (E46), and it used to kinda piss me off that for the price ....

Remember GlenGarry Glen Ross ?

Moss: What's your name?
Blake: F**K YOU, that's my name!! You know why, Mister? 'Cause you drove a Hyundai to get here tonight, I drove a eighty thousand dollar BMW. That's my name!!

Mrs. Rizzo had an Elantra for a couple of weeks whilst they repaired her car. I never got out of the BMW grabbing my lower back in pain.....
I love that movie and that is one of the best parts of the movie. I can watch it over and over!
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Old 05-27-2007, 04:06 PM
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they only have oil coolers on the sports package? That makes no sense,
It doesn't make sense, but is that confirmed? I guess I really won't know for sure until I get my car.
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Old 05-27-2007, 04:14 PM
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It doesn't make sense, but is that confirmed? I guess I really won't know for sure until I get my car.
I've been searching the forum trying to figure that out. I plan on ordering a 335i soon, adding an aftermarket cooler isn't that expensive, but I feel that's not something I should have to do.
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Old 05-27-2007, 04:31 PM
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I've been searching the forum trying to figure that out. I plan on ordering a 335i soon, adding an aftermarket cooler isn't that expensive, but I feel that's not something I should have to do.
I ordered with foreknowledge of this.
  1. I live in a cold weather climate, although summers here could get as hot as FLA.
  2. I don't intend to drive on the track, and to be honest, I might not ever crack 100mph

It would be nice if it came with an oil cooler, but I can't see driving to the point where I'm over-heated on the side of the road. Especially since nobody has ever reporting any such problem (other than that first report)...
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Old 05-27-2007, 04:33 PM
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Wow, after reading this thread, I just realized I'm on the wrong forum....I thought BMW stood for Bob Marley and the Wailers. Now I'm really confused!
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Old 05-27-2007, 05:36 PM
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Digital camera manufacturers are now engaged in a race to see who can stuff more megapixels into the tiniest of cameras. The idea being that with more pixels you can enlarge ever smaller areas of your picture to get big enlargements. However, very few people actually ever do that. And the enthusiasts know that the tradeoff may not be worth it. So how much hp is enough? For some, the sky is the limit, for those who don't street race or need the bragging rights, less is more.
As we used to say about carbs on Italian cars, "If some is good, more is better and too much is just enough." Then we ( or at least some of us) grew up.
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Old 05-27-2007, 05:56 PM
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Why did you buy a 328xi if you are into stoplight races? A Mazdaspeed 3 is the car you need. Looks like you didn't do your homework.
Welp, not only not doing homework, but I guess with a desire to not be outrun by any car, lacks the thought processes to= too impulsive (prolly why he bought a car and now regrets it)...he'll "yada yada yada" responses here anyway, rofl

+1 for mature minded drivers here btw, kudos

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Old 05-27-2007, 06:44 PM
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I'm listing it on Craigslist and buying that Hyundai I've waited for all my life. I'm looking for a dealer that specializes in KD (Korea Delivery).
Can you wait until unification and request delivery in the North?!
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:10 PM
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328xi..allday long people turn thier heads when they see me coming...i check the rear view and they are still looking... i must have got 10 thumbs -up in the 4 months ive had this car..and many compliments...nicest car..beautiful lines..etc..etc.. in the winter when all the 335's are slip sliding and the porches are in the garage,ill be gliding along...NO PROBLEM.... nicest and best car i have ever EVER owned......PERIOD
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At least my mighty 328 can beat a Prius off the line. Now that's something. I'll remind everyone here that most people who bought 328s knew nothing about the 335 fuel pump problems when they made their decision. 70 HP for $3500 is the deal of the decade.
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Old 05-28-2007, 07:15 AM
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rikwynn:

I have NO idea what you are talking about. Perhaps if you are getting the car all luxed out you get 70 hp for $3500-$4000. But if are buying the convertible, and (like SOME people) you don't want/need every possible option, it sure ain't $3500.

Maybe I don't want to sit on dead animal skin (which you MUST with the 335).

Since I am buying the 328 vert, I'm already getting the 17" wheels and power seats...no need to buy the 335 for those.

I've seen a few of your posts. You seem to enjoy stirring the pot.

Whatever.

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At least my mighty 328 can beat a Prius off the line. Now that's something. I'll remind everyone here that most people who bought 328s knew nothing about the 335 fuel pump problems when they made their decision. 70 HP for $3500 is the deal of the decade.
The differential is rather larger in the real world of supply and demand.
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Old 05-28-2007, 08:21 AM
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For me, the OP's point on fast off the line isn't the key of the 335 engine, although, there are a couple of on ramps in the Santa Cruz Mountains that 0-60 in 5.x seconds does come in handy. The real beauty in this engine is the power across the entire range and in most any gear, power when and where you need it, and that isn't always from a dead stop.

That's what sold me.
+1

Saying the 328 and 335 are the same car at most speeds is wrong, and not only about the engine. The standard features are different, too. (I used to crack up at the threads started by 325 owners trying to "chrome up" or "de-badge" or whatever else to make their cars look like 330s. Geez, just get one.)

The 328 is a compromise to allow someone to get into this class of car. It's okay, but accept it.
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