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E70 BMW X5 produced between 2007 and 2013. Discuss the E70 X5 with other BMW owners here.

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Old 06-25-2007, 09:16 AM
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Thumbs up Some new 2007 E70 updates & 2008 Info !!!

I was visiting Long Beach BMW (CA) yesterday and I inquired about the availability of the power liftgate option on the 2007 model E70 X5 and interestingly enough, the salesperson (Aaron)told me that as of July production vehicles, you can get the $500 option now (FINALLY!!!). I have been waiting and waiting to order this option on my ordered 3.0si (late July/early August production for October delivery).

Interestingly, the salesperson, who was very knowlegable and extremely helpful, told me that the engine of the 3.0si WILL NOT BE CHANGED for the 2008 MY, but probably will be changed in 2009 MY since the new upcoming 2009 X6 WILL BE fitted with the N54 twin turbo 300 hp engine when it is introduced in the fall of 2008 as a 2009 MY vehicle.

Again, this is not the word of the gosple and bible here and it came from the mouth of a salesperson at a BMW dealership, so use the information given here at your discretion and don't blame the messenger if the info ends up being incorrect.

One last thing: For the 2008 MY E70 X5, the power liftgate option will be included in the Comfort Access option (not sure if the price will stay at a $1K), but it will not a la cart anymore for $500. I think that is a great deal if you get both Comfort Access and power liftgate for $1K, but the price of that option at this point is unknown. What is known is that they WILL be together in that option package.

I am modifying my order now to include the $500 auto tailgate option since my car is not built yet. The dealer code for the power liftgate option is 0316.

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Old 06-25-2007, 12:50 PM
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I was visiting Long Beach BMW (CA) yesterday and I inquired about the availability of the power liftgate option on the 2007 model E70 X5 and interestingly enough, the salesperson (Aaron)told me that as of July production vehicles, you can get the $500 option now (FINALLY!!!). I have been waiting and waiting to order this option on my ordered 3.0si (late July/early August production for October delivery).

Interestingly, the salesperson, who was very knowlegable and extremely helpful, told me that the engine of the 3.0si WILL NOT BE CHANGED for the 2008 MY, but probably will be changed in 2009 MY since the new upcoming 2009 X6 WILL BE fitted with the N54 twin turbo 300 hp engine when it is introduced in the fall of 2008 as a 2009 MY vehicle.

Again, this is not the word of the gosple and bible here and it came from the mouth of a salesperson at a BMW dealership, so use the information given here at your discretion and don't blame the messenger if the info ends up being incorrect.

One last thing: For the 2008 MY E70 X5, the power liftgate option will be included in the Comfort Access option (not sure if the price will stay at a $1K), but it will not a la cart anymore for $500. I think that is a great deal if you get both Comfort Access and power liftgate for $1K, but the price of that option at this point is unknown. What is known is that they WILL be together in that option package.

I am modifying my order now to include the $500 auto tailgate option since my car is not built yet. The dealer code for the power liftgate option is 0316.

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Thanks for the info Alex!
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Old 06-25-2007, 04:56 PM
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I was visiting Long Beach BMW (CA) yesterday and I inquired about the availability of the power liftgate option on the 2007 model E70 X5 and interestingly enough, the salesperson (Aaron)told me that as of July production vehicles, you can get the $500 option now (FINALLY!!!). I have been waiting and waiting to order this option on my ordered 3.0si (late July/early August production for October delivery).

Interestingly, the salesperson, who was very knowlegable and extremely helpful, told me that the engine of the 3.0si WILL NOT BE CHANGED for the 2008 MY, but probably will be changed in 2009 MY since the new upcoming 2009 X6 WILL BE fitted with the N54 twin turbo 300 hp engine when it is introduced in the fall of 2008 as a 2009 MY vehicle.

Again, this is not the word of the gosple and bible here and it came from the mouth of a salesperson at a BMW dealership, so use the information given here at your discretion and don't blame the messenger if the info ends up being incorrect.

One last thing: For the 2008 MY E70 X5, the power liftgate option will be included in the Comfort Access option (not sure if the price will stay at a $1K), but it will not a la cart anymore for $500. I think that is a great deal if you get both Comfort Access and power liftgate for $1K, but the price of that option at this point is unknown. What is known is that they WILL be together in that option package.

I am modifying my order now to include the $500 auto tailgate option since my car is not built yet. The dealer code for the power liftgate option is 0316.

Alex Bidarian
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I strongly believe the N54 engine will be introduced in both the X3 and the X5 this year as MY2008 products.
It will be too costly for BMW NA to maintain different fleet of engines- the N54 will be in the X3 and X5 by the end of the year leaving you with the same engine lineup in the 3er, 5 er, X3 and the X5.
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Old 06-25-2007, 05:13 PM
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Question I doubt they will drop it in 2008 MY, but with BMW, it is very possible.

I am only going by what the dealer told me. Dropping a 300hp engine in both the X3 and the X5 would only make sense if the new 2009 X6 already has that engine. Since the X6 comes out next year as a 2009, I am only speculating that BMW may save that engine to debut the X6 with it, and then drop it into the X5 in the same model year. I doubt that the year for that change is 2008. But for 2009, it is almost 100% a done deal.

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Old 06-25-2007, 06:42 PM
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I am only going by what the dealer told me. Dropping a 300hp engine in both the X3 and the X5 would only make sense if the new 2009 X6 already has that engine. Since the X6 comes out next year as a 2009, I am only speculating that BMW may save that engine to debut the X6 with it, and then drop it into the X5 in the same model year. I doubt that the year for that change is 2008. But for 2009, it is almost 100% a done deal.

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I know what you mean, and that was what a dealer told me as well, however from what I have been getting from some guys in BMW- it will be MY2008.
The only new engine the X6 will introduce is the N64B44O1(4.4 litre TT V8) engine, and then the X5 and the F01/02 750i.
I am waiting to get the X5 with the N54B30O1 engine as well.
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:20 AM
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any idea how much cost is added if they do throw in the N54 engine on the MY2008 ?
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Old 06-26-2007, 12:02 PM
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any idea how much cost is added if they do throw in the N54 engine on the MY2008 ?
My guess is that we will see the same price changes that we saw with the 5 series when the N54 engine was introduced.
There is also the possibility of the price increase being less than what we saw in the 5 series because you now have a more series sharing the same engine- thus spreading the cost of the engine( economy of scales).
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Old 06-26-2007, 12:46 PM
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I strongly believe the N54 engine will be introduced in both the X3 and the X5 this year as MY2008 products.
It will be too costly for BMW NA to maintain different fleet of engines- the N54 will be in the X3 and X5 by the end of the year leaving you with the same engine lineup in the 3er, 5 er, X3 and the X5.
I think the N52 is going to be around for 2008.

A N52 powers the 328. Why eliminate the best selling model?

The US version of the 1 series is supposed to get both the N52 and N54. Goes on sale March 2008.

The Z4 doesn't count for much, but it uses the N52.


The 2008 X5 will be getting the 3.0 L turbo diesel. Perhaps this will replace the N52. Or maybe we will get 3 engine options. We should know soon enough.

Rumors are the X3 will be getting a diesel option as well although I haven't seen this confirmed.
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Old 06-26-2007, 12:55 PM
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Of course the 2.8 litre version of the N52 will still power the 328/528 and potentially the Z4&X3 2.8i, and that is what it will be confined to.

The N54 will power the 335i, 535i, X3/X5 and the Z4 3.5i.
This will eliminate the 2.5 & 3.0 litre versions of the N52 engine from the US.
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Of course the 2.8 litre version of the N52 will still power the 328/528 and potentially the Z4&X3 2.8i, and that is what it will be confined to.

The N54 will power the 335i, 535i, X3/X5 and the Z4 3.5i.
This will eliminate the 2.5 & 3.0 litre versions of the N52 engine from the US.

The engine in the 328i displaces 3.0L. There is no X3 2.8i. There is a X3 2.5i available in Europe along with 3 diesels and the 3.0si.

The only version of the sold in the us is the X3 3.0si. 3.0L 260HP N52. I do agree that there isn't much marketing room between the 260HP N52 and the 300HP N54. Selling an X3 with both engines may not make sense. I still think the x3 3.0sd turbo diesel is a more likely addition to the US lineup. $4.00 / gallon gas isn't far off.


If BMWNA decides to market a X3 with the detuned N52 they are more likely to badge it 3.0i like the Z4.
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Old 06-26-2007, 04:17 PM
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The engine in the 328i displaces 3.0L. There is no X3 2.8i. There is a X3 2.5i available in Europe along with 3 diesels and the 3.0si.

The only version of the sold in the us is the X3 3.0si. 3.0L 260HP N52. I do agree that there isn't much marketing room between the 260HP N52 and the 300HP N54. Selling an X3 with both engines may not make sense. I still think the x3 3.0sd turbo diesel is a more likely addition to the US lineup. $4.00 / gallon gas isn't far off.


If BMWNA decides to market a X3 with the detuned N52 they are more likely to badge it 3.0i like the Z4.
True the N52 engine is a 3 litre I6, with the 328 having the detuned version of the engine.
BMW stopped marketing the X3 2.5 in 2005 because, the X3 3.0 was more favourable to consumers than the less powerful 2.5.
The 2005 X3 3.0 was rated at 225 HP and 2.5 was rated for 184 HP
The current detuned N52 in both the 328/528 delivers 230 HP, with this said, there is a strong possibility that we will see the X3 2.8i & X3 3.5i lineup. The same argument can be made for the Z4
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:59 AM
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Angry Correction: Not til 2008 MY for the power liftgate now

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Is 2008 still the date for ordering the auto tailgate? In other words, does it mean people can order it from Oct onwards?
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2008 X5's will be built from October and onwards

They will be showing up to the dealers late November, early December.

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Old 08-09-2007, 04:22 AM
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They will be showing up to the dealers late November, early December.

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Any chance for the auto tailgate to be available from Oct onwards (according to your source)? It seems that new Oct pricelist from the BMW official german web site does not have the auto tailgate option listed.
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I strongly believe the N54 engine will be introduced in both the X3 and the X5 this year as MY2008 products.
It will be too costly for BMW NA to maintain different fleet of engines- the N54 will be in the X3 and X5 by the end of the year leaving you with the same engine lineup in the 3er, 5 er, X3 and the X5.
The pre-official bulletin of the X3 is already out. There are no drivetrain changes. Only changes are a new Sport Activity Package and improved illumination stuff in the Premium package (puddle lighting). The N52 remains in the 3.0si trim for the US model X3s, and Canada will continue to get the 3.0i (215hp) and 3.0si.
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The pre-official bulletin of the X3 is already out. There are no drivetrain changes. Only changes are a new Sport Activity Package and improved illumination stuff in the Premium package (puddle lighting). The N52 remains in the 3.0si trim for the US model X3s, and Canada will continue to get the 3.0i (215hp) and 3.0si.
I would wait for the official announcement by the end of the month or in September.
I saw the pre-official bulletin, and it made no mention of drivetrain changes like you pointed out.
I am hoping this action is necessitated by the manufacturer not wanting to disrupt sales of the current models.
I remember what happened with the E90 change from 325/330i to 328/335i after 1 year- it was the same. I could say the same for the E60 as well, for North America it was the same.
In all of these cases there weren't any signs from BMW even though the indicators were there.
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The engine in the 328i displaces 3.0L. There is no X3 2.8i. There is a X3 2.5i available in Europe along with 3 diesels and the 3.0si.

The only version of the sold in the us is the X3 3.0si. 3.0L 260HP N52. I do agree that there isn't much marketing room between the 260HP N52 and the 300HP N54. Selling an X3 with both engines may not make sense. I still think the x3 3.0sd turbo diesel is a more likely addition to the US lineup. $4.00 / gallon gas isn't far off.


If BMWNA decides to market a X3 with the detuned N52 they are more likely to badge it 3.0i like the Z4.
Agree about diesel. Please BMW, bring the 3.0L diesel to all your models.
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I think the N52 is going to be around for 2008.

A N52 powers the 328. Why eliminate the best selling model?

The US version of the 1 series is supposed to get both the N52 and N54. Goes on sale March 2008.

The Z4 doesn't count for much, but it uses the N52.


The 2008 X5 will be getting the 3.0 L turbo diesel. Perhaps this will replace the N52. Or maybe we will get 3 engine options. We should know soon enough.

Rumors are the X3 will be getting a diesel option as well although I haven't seen this confirmed.
Andrew, does this mean you saw confirmation of x5 diesel?
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