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Old 07-06-2007, 09:35 PM
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Boeing 787 – A New Era in Air Travel

Boeing 787 Video (Part 1)

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...-roll-out.html


Boeing 787 Video (Part 2)

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...me-aboard.html


Boeing 787 Video (Part 3)

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...passenger.html


Boeing 787 Video (Part 4)

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...echnology.html


Boeing 787 Video (Part 5)

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...echnology.html
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Boeing will broadcast the Premiere of its newest technologically advanced passenger jet - the 787 Dreamliner - to viewers around the world.

The 787 Premiere will be carried live and in nine different languages on Sunday, July 8, at 3:30 p.m. PDT or 10:30 p.m. GMT via satellite and Webcast. To view the Webcast, viewers may log on to www.boeing.com or www.newairplane.com.

Boeing will broadcast the Premiere to more than 45 countries using 35 satellite TV networks. Satellite television subscribers may tune in the following channels, depending on their satellite service provider: Specific channel or frequency information can be found on the Premiere Web site.

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/787...7premiere.html
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Boeing 787 Facts

Seat range of airplane
200 - 300

Seats by model
787-8, 210 to 250
787-9, 250 to 290
787-3, 290 to 330

Speed at which it will fly
Mach 0.85 (about the same as a 777 and 747)

787 vs. 777 on composites and aluminum (by weight)
787
- 50 percent composites
- 20 percent aluminum
777
- 12 percent composites
- 50 percent aluminum

Material breakout on 787
Composites - 50%
Aluminum - 20%
Titanium - 15%
Steel - 10%
Other - 5%

Example of part count reductions (on first barrel section)
1,500 aluminum sheets
40,000 - 50,000 fasteners
80 percent reduction in fasteners compared to 1 part for composite

How much lighter is 787 from A330-200
30,000 - 40,000 lbs.

More fuel efficient
20 percent more fuel efficient than similarly sized airplanes

Produces fewer emissions
20 percent fewer than similarly sized airplanes

Better cash seat mile costs than peer airplanes
10 percent

Generators
Four at 250 kVA (two per engine)
Two at 225 kVA (on auxiliary power unit)

Hydraulic power distributed at:
5,000 psi on the 787

Advantage of the new electric architecture
Extracts as much as 35 percent less power from the engines than traditional pneumatic systems on today's airplanes

Amount of copper wiring eliminated
60 miles

Design time on computers
800,000 hours of computing time on Cray supercomputers

Hours of wind tunnel tests
15,000 hours of wind tunnel tests

Days the 787 will be in final assembly
The goal is three days

Anticipated maintenance savings
30 percent

US and non-US content on the 787
Roughly 75 percent US
Roughly 25 percent non-US

Systems partners announced -- 95 percent complete
Goodrich, Honeywell, Rockwell Collins, Hamilton Sundstrand, Smiths, Eaton Aerospace, Moog Inc., Thales, Kidde Technologies, Parker Hannifin, Labinal, Messier-Bugatti, Monogram Systems, Panasonic, Ultra Electronics Holdings, Donaldson Company, Inc., Astronautics Corp. of America
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Old 07-06-2007, 09:37 PM
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Boeing 787 Engines

GEnx
http://www.geaviation.com/engines/co...enx/index.html

http://ge.ecomagination.com/@v=312005_0548@/site/#genx


Rolls-Royce Trent 1000
http://www.rolls-royce.com/civil_aer...00/default.jsp
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I can't wait to take a trip abroad on that plane. We will most likely have them in Asia some time soon.
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I can't wait to take a trip abroad on that plane. We will most likely have them in Asia some time soon.
ANA (Japan) will get the first 787.
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Old 07-07-2007, 09:38 PM
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The Future of Flight Aviation Center is inviting the general public to celebrate the Boeing 787 rollout on Sunday, July 8, 2007. Planned activities include live music, face painters, balloon artists, and a chance to watch the rollout ceremony live at 3:30pm on its large gallery screens.

As an added bonus on July 8, 2007, Rolls-Royce will have their Boeing 747 engine test-bed aircraft on display at the Future of Flight, which will allow the general public a close-up view of the Boeing 787 Dreamliner launch engine, the Rolls-Royce Trent 1000.

http://www.futureofflight.org/pr_special_events.htm
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I think this will be a great plane once launched.
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Old 07-07-2007, 09:44 PM
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I was working at the Everett plant when Boeing launched the 777. Back in 93/94. What an awesome show they setup for it. I really do miss working for Boeing. Glad to see they're kicking A. The 787 will be a great bird....
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Boeing 787 Book & Items

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Old 07-07-2007, 09:59 PM
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Where's the classic bumper sticker, "if it ain't a Boeing, I'm not going...."
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Where's the classic bumper sticker, "if it ain't a Boeing, I'm not going...."


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Old 07-08-2007, 04:38 AM
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WOW..that is cool and are they replacing the 777 and 747s??
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Boeing 787 Facts

More fuel efficient
20 percent more fuel efficient than similarly sized airplanes

Better cash seat mile costs than peer airplanes
10 percent

Anticipated maintenance savings
30 percent
Anticpated airport check-in line time savings
0 percent

Anticipated ticket price reductions
0 percent

Anticipated lost baggage claim reductions
0 percent

wake me up when anything airbus or boeing does that reduces the misery of flying.

nice jet though.
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Old 07-08-2007, 10:26 AM
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The 787 will be the most successful aircraft coming out now. The A380 is just too much of a hassle, production wise and for the adaptation of the aircraft to the airports. I hope I'll have a chance to work on the 787 later on. Being an aircraft mechanic owns. :P
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Old 07-08-2007, 10:30 AM
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Anticpated airport check-in line time savings
0 percent

Anticipated ticket price reductions
0 percent

Anticipated lost baggage claim reductions
0 percent

wake me up when anything airbus or boeing does that reduces the misery of flying.

nice jet though.
I didn't realized it was Airbus or Boeing was responsible for running a airline company or airport.
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Anticpated airport check-in line time savings
0 percent

Anticipated ticket price reductions
0 percent

Anticipated lost baggage claim reductions
0 percent

wake me up when anything airbus or boeing does that reduces the misery of flying.

nice jet though.
Wow, that was a buzzkill.
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Wow, that was a buzzkill.
Seriously
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Hopefully the interiors get alot better than current offerings. Airbus is a bit ahead in this department. I know they are custom ordered, but most of the Airbus planes seem more comfortable.

By the looks of the vid posted in the OP, it seems Boeing is going in the right direction.
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cmon, it's 2007. we should be flying in low-earth orbit by now. people are ooh'ing and aaahh-ing over a technological breakthroughs only a bean-counter could love. no wonder this is all we've got.

the last 2 really spectacular breakthroughs we've seen in commercial aviation were the concorde (1969), and the 747 (1970)... 37+ years is a long time to wait for the Next Big Thing.

787 is a nice jet, but really, nothing special in my opinion.

but let's get back to the ooh's and aahhh's
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cmon, it's 2007. we should be flying in low-earth orbit by now. people are ooh'ing and aaahh-ing over a technological breakthroughs only a bean-counter could love. no wonder this is all we've got.

the last 2 really spectacular breakthroughs we've seen in commercial aviation were the concorde (1969), and the 747 (1970)... 37+ years is a long time to wait for the Next Big Thing.

787 is a nice jet, but really, nothing special in my opinion.

but let's get back to the ooh's and aahhh's
I disagree - it marks the beginning of a new way to build, in a fashion that opens the doors for exactly what you're describing.
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cmon, it's 2007. we should be flying in low-earth orbit by now. people are ooh'ing and aaahh-ing over a technological breakthroughs only a bean-counter could love. no wonder this is all we've got.

the last 2 really spectacular breakthroughs we've seen in commercial aviation were the concorde (1969), and the 747 (1970)... 37+ years is a long time to wait for the Next Big Thing.

787 is a nice jet, but really, nothing special in my opinion.

but let's get back to the ooh's and aahhh's
I agree wholeheartedly with this post and others you posted in this thread. While I guess its nice that Boeing has come out with something new, the state of jet travel today is absolutely horrible, not that Boeing had anything to do with that. Air travel satisfaction is now the lowest since the inception of commercial passenger travel. Essentially it's Greyhound in the sky.

I'll be excited as soon as the airlines can deliver a reasonable product. Until then who give a rats azz about a new jet. You'll still have the same POS union ground personnel and poor airline management running the show. The only benefactor from a more efficient jet will be the airlines themselves. This will allow them to squeeze the flying public even more.

And no, I'm not bitter nor did I spend 20 hours on the tarmac in JFK. Care for some peanuts, or a $5 headset? Pehaps I can interest you in a $5 snack box. Just calling it as I see it.
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I agree wholeheartedly with this post and others you posted in this thread. While I guess its nice that Boeing has come out with something new, the state of jet travel today is absolutely horrible, not that Boeing had anything to do with that. Air travel satisfaction is now the lowest since the inception of commercial passenger travel. Essentially it's Greyhound in the sky.

I'll be excited as soon as the airlines can deliver a reasonable product. Until then who give a rats azz about a new jet. You'll still have the same POS union ground personnel and poor airline management running the show. The only benefactor from a more efficient jet will be the airlines themselves. This will allow them to squeeze the flying public even more.

And no, I'm not bitter nor did I spend 20 hours on the tarmac in JFK. Care for some peanuts, or a $5 headset? Pehaps I can interest you in a $5 snack box. Just calling it as I see it.

I do not work in the airline or aerospace industry but I can appreciate the advancements of this plane and what it means for consumers - it will help keep fares lower than if less efficient aircraft were utilized. Your beef appears to be with the FAA, the airlines and everyone else you seem to think isn't doing a better job to provide you a free headset, snack and pillow. What would you do to improve the process?

I don't understand how one can say that the state of air traffic today is "absolutely horrible". The system is congested and theres not a lot you can do about that unless you want to spend hundreds of billions on new airports and advanced control systems. The problem with doing that is that the airlines aren't making enough money to pay for that infrastructure and they can't pass it along in higher fares. Would you favor additional taxes added to tickets to finance this? or higher income tax rates? I wouldn't.

Perhaps a small economics lesson is in order. Do you recall what it cost to fly before deregulation? What is the "real" (inflation adjusted) cost of flying for consumers today versus 20 to 30 years ago? (WAY lower now) Even though there are fewer airlines, competition for passengers remains very aggressive with lower fares and frequent flier perks. There is increasing pressure to reduce fares for the airlines' most profitable customers, last minute business travelers. That would put even more pressure on consumer fares.

Without more efficient planes, fares would not be as low as they are today. If the dominant plane was the still the 707, fuel costs would be higher, noise and emissions would also be excessive. What "wow" factor is left? Regulations will not allow supersonic flight over the US (unless you want sonic booms to be a part of everyday life) so planes can't fly much faster unless there is some sort of ramjet advancement (expensive and impractical on short to medium haul flights). The Concorde was an economic disaster that never made money. As we can see with the Airbus A380, sometimes bigger isn't always better, as it requires airport improvements, additional spacing with other planes and the ingress egress issues it creates.

Airlines have discovered that the vast majority of passengers are fare driven and are not willing to pay a higher fare for a snack, pillow and a second bag of peanuts. As for the airlines, there are two distinct groups - high cost, leagacy carriers (like American, United, Delta and Northwest) with union problems and lower cost carriers like Jet Blue, AirTran and Southwest. The legacy carriers have to cut cost everywhere they can to be competitive.
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