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E36 (1991 - 1999)
The E36 chassis 3-Series BMW was a huge hit among driving enthusiasts from the first moment the car hit the pavement. The E36 won numerous awards over the years it was produced and is still a favorite of many BMW enthusiasts to this day! -- View the E36 Wiki

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Old 04-20-2007, 04:22 PM
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Convertible roof will not go down

Hi all.

I have searched through the forum for this problem and have not found anything so applogise if I have missed it and am repeating a question.

I have a 1997 E36 318i with 77000miles and have noticed recently that the roof would not retract the odd time. Sometimes when I would push the button the windows would lower and then nothing else would happen. Then if I try again later the roof would work ok. Today however when I push the button, nothing happens at all. There is no noise of motors, the trunk is closed, no light illuminates on the switch or dashboard, the fuse is ok and the motors are not disengaged.

Could the switch be burnt out or does it sound to be something more expensive .

I was going to try and remove the switch tomorrow but would appreciate any ideas of possible causes in case I am looking in the wrong area.

Thanks in advance for any assistance.
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Old 04-20-2007, 05:58 PM
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Sounds like a relay issue to me buddy

Bimmer_Angel is much better than me at convertibles though. Unfortunately (as you know) it is 1am and she is in bed hehehehe

Have you changed the fuse? i know you said it as ok but is always worth a shot
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Old 04-20-2007, 09:37 PM
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Try this site bimmerforum.com and go to the e36 section. There is a convertible subsection that has a number of posts including the file that has tons of convertible info.

Before I got too carried away I would do basics with a VOM to see if power is even getting to the switch, past the fuse you think is good, etc.
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Many times the microswitch is not making proper contact and that stops the whole show.
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Old 04-21-2007, 04:14 AM
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where is the microswitch. do you mean the main switch or another one. Im not great with electrics so will probably get a friend to help on that side.

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Old 04-21-2007, 09:53 AM
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This is a really far out suggestion but are you sure that the boot catch is engaging properly because, as you know, if the boot is not closed securely, the roof will not work

If the problem is intermittant it sounds electrical rather than mechanical
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Old 04-21-2007, 11:13 AM
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Definately not the boot. I had that problem before so first thing I checked now.

I went out to look at it about half an hour ago and now everything is working again.

I know it is only a matter of time before it stops again.

Any other suggestions about what to check will be greatly appreciated.
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Old 04-21-2007, 11:48 AM
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Everything points to the microswitch then mate

It is on it's way out
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Old 04-21-2007, 12:03 PM
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where is the microswith located and is it difficult/expensive to replace.
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Old 04-22-2007, 04:31 AM
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Ok, Ive checked the Bentley Manual and found the microswitches. My question now is which switch is it likely to be. What one controls the initial operation of the roof.

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Old 04-30-2007, 04:28 PM
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Hi, Ive been trying to figure out what switch is what and just cant work it out.

I had the roof down today it would not go back up again so I have had to do it manually.

I can reset the motors ok as I have done it before but my question is.

The fact that the roof only sometimes goes down and then only sometimes goes back up, does that in some way indicate what switch is the problem.

Im at a dead end here and any help is really appreciated.

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Old 05-02-2007, 12:46 PM
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If you have tried everything and the blessed thing still is not working I would take it to a Dealer and get them to fix it. Yes, I know they can charge the earth but with this fab weather we are having you want your roof to work

My clutches had to be reset and some of the strings tightened and they charged me 40 GBP which I think was not too bad at all.
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Old 07-15-2007, 03:53 PM
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Thanks guys. Sorry for the delay. My email did not notify the new messages. Ive replaced the brain and now the storage cover randomly works and stops working. Any idea where the sensors are located. I was going to try changing a few of them first and then visit the dealer is nesessary but at 100 an hour Im not looking forward to it.
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Old 07-15-2007, 03:56 PM
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by the way. what are the dlutches you are speaking about. do you mean in the roof? COuld the strings and clutches cause the problem I am having with the storage cover randomly working and not.
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hoping you can help me out with top issue

were you able to find what was the reason your top stop from working? as I am having the same issue as you were experiencing. @willinot

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Go to the Origami Problems sticky and you should be able to find the answers you're looking for.
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Hi, in my car the bar that lifts the tonneau cover located inside the roof storage area needed adjusted (turning the nuts on threaded section) to lift it a fraction more to activate the switch.

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