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Old 08-21-2007, 04:41 AM
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BB250B from above. The I.D. of the BB100B that I'll be using is .4" smaller, and is probably a little thinner too. I won't know until tomorrow.

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Old 08-21-2007, 06:00 AM
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Ordered the HG100R today from Summit Racing 800-230-3030.
$99.95 plus $10.95 handling. Shipping is free
Comes from OH. Will arrive in CT Tuesday.
No bracket included.
One thing I wasn't told is the $21.00 hazard shipping fee that showed up on my card today.
Just got off the phone with them and they said they will credit the $21.
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Old 08-21-2007, 06:20 AM
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One thing I wasn't told is the $21.00 hazard shipping fee that showed up on my card today.
Just got off the phone with them and they said they will credit the $21.
I noticed that too, but didn't call because there was the footnote "(7) The part is classified hazardous. Additional fees may apply."
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Old 08-21-2007, 06:34 AM
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I noticed that too, but didn't call because there was the footnote "(7) The part is classified hazardous. Additional fees may apply."
Where did you see that?
Couldn't find the extinguisher in the catalog.
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Old 08-21-2007, 06:55 AM
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Where did you see that?
Couldn't find the extinguisher in the catalog.
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...t=HTR%2DHG100R
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Old 08-21-2007, 08:38 AM
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DWM, does your driver's seat have any wedge or lift at the front mounting points? Mine has the Stygar lift wedge (http://bimmerfest.com/forums/showthr...ilt#post595664), so that ought to give me at least 7/16" more room.

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Old 08-21-2007, 01:56 PM
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Forgot to get them covers. After HC. Didn't have the white board then.
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:03 PM
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Ordered the HG100R today from Summit Racing 800-230-3030.
$99.95 plus $10.95 handling. Shipping is free
Comes from OH. Will arrive in CT Tuesday.
***No bracket included.***
Mine showed up today. It came with a bracket.
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Old 08-21-2007, 03:49 PM
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Mine showed up today. It came with a bracket.
They all come with the regular bracket. Where did you see 'No bracket included'?
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DWM, does your driver's seat have any wedge or lift at the front mounting points? Mine has the Stygar lift wedge (http://bimmerfest.com/forums/showthr...ilt#post595664), so that ought to give me at least 7/16" more room.

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No, my seats are flat on the floor. 7/16" will give you a lot of clearance. The BB100B arrived today (a day early), I just took the BB250B out of the BMF01B and had no trouble removing it.
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Old 08-21-2007, 04:05 PM
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They all come with the regular bracket. Where did you see 'No bracket included'?
From the same Summit girl that said no shipping charge and gave me a total of $110.90.
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Old 08-21-2007, 04:07 PM
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Forgot to get them covers. After HC. Didn't have the white board then.
The Wet Okole covers have worked out well for me. I haven't treated my seats since before HC last year, the covers have been on since then. Obviously I had the seat portion off to muck with the extinguisher stuff. Leather looks and feels fine, it's been well-protected. I'd rather sit on the leather than the seat covers, but for the HC trip I really like having the inflatable lumbar to move my lower back around. Helps prevent my compressed disk from nagging me. Also like to be able to put sweating groceries (milk, water, juice, etc.) in the passenger seat w/o worrying about it.
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The Wet Okole covers have worked out well for me. I haven't treated my seats since before HC last year, the covers have been on since then. Obviously I had the seat portion off to muck with the extinguisher stuff. Leather looks and feels fine, it's been well-protected. I'd rather sit on the leather than the seat covers, but for the HC trip I really like having the inflatable lumbar to move my lower back around. Helps prevent my compressed disk from nagging me. Also like to be able to put sweating groceries (milk, water, juice, etc.) in the passenger seat w/o worrying about it.

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The scary thing about reading your whiteboard is that I know what most of it is. But... you turn off your water and softener for the Homecoming trip? Not a bad idea, I just hadn't thought about it.

I'm about to powdercoat the BB250B, just finished sanding the 90-degree edges. the trick will be getting the part from the outdoors to the oven in the garage since my garage is an obstacle course at the moment.
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Old 08-21-2007, 05:06 PM
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The scary thing about reading your whiteboard is that I know what most of it is. But... you turn off your water and softener for the Homecoming trip? Not a bad idea, I just hadn't thought about it.

I'm about to powdercoat the BB250B, just finished sanding the 90-degree edges. the trick will be getting the part from the outdoors to the oven in the garage since my garage is an obstacle course at the moment.
I have a switch near the kitchen door to kill the water and another in the hall way for the electric water heater.
Long ago went camping in New Hampshire and the softener got stuck in flush mode dumping who knows how much water into the septic tank.
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Powdercoated the BB100B in 'Sable Black' (powder Ron sent to me years ago), installed the extinguisher. The BMF01B is bolted to the temporary fiberglass piece, to be replaced when I get the mounting plates from the laser-cutting shop. I'll powdercoat the plates and my BMF01B then.





On to the rest of the list, which includes cleaning my interior.
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Looks very nice! I have a 2.5 pound unit sitting in the garage right now, and a 1 pound unit on the way. Hopefully one or the other will mount up.

Daniel, I couldn't see the release mechanism on your billet mount, is it a pin of some sort?
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Old 08-21-2007, 08:26 PM
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Looks very nice! I have a 2.5 pound unit sitting in the garage right now, and a 1 pound unit on the way. Hopefully one or the other will mount up.
The 1 lb will definitely mount up, obviously. Ron and others did it years ago with the Amerex and the BMW extinguisher, and the H3R isn't much different. Fred thinks the 2.5 lb will fit, I guess we'll know in a few weeks.

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Yes. Pin has a spring-loaded bearing on the end that keeps it in place until you pull it. The billet band stays on the extinguisher.

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Old 08-21-2007, 08:32 PM
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FWIW, the other option I considered was the Safecraft. Very nice extinguishers, but their billet mount's plate is too wide to mount reasonably on the front of our seats.
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I got a little lost a few posts back...

1. Looks like the H3R is the ideal choice? is there a shelf life?
2. Daniel, the bracket you are making for $25, does the bracket that comes with the extinguisher bolt to it?
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1. Looks like the H3R is the ideal choice? is there a shelf life?
I think extinguishers of that type should be tested every 6 years.
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Old 08-22-2007, 06:44 AM
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I got a little lost a few posts back...

1. Looks like the H3R is the ideal choice? is there a shelf life?
http://www.h3rperformance.com/support_faq_3.htm#q9

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Yes. I'm using the billet mounting pieces but you could use the included mounting bracket.
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Do you happen to have a photo of the included bracket? I'm not sure how it compares (release-wise) to the billet mount, but I am a little put off by the additional pin to pull to get the extinguisher out. I don't think it would be hard to fab up something to make the pin easier to grab without seeing it (larger ring, strap, etc.).
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Old 08-22-2007, 08:55 AM
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In addition to Summit Racing, Kragen/Checker/Shucks "Parts America" handles the H3R billet parts. They used to handle the H3R Halguard extinguishers, but they seem to have dropped that part of the H3R line. They were slow in shipping the extinquisher when I bought it in March.

They do have lower prices and free shipping for orders over $50. So, if you're not in a hurry: http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductL...egorycode=3165
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Do you happen to have a photo of the included bracket? I'm not sure how it compares (release-wise) to the billet mount, but I am a little put off by the additional pin to pull to get the extinguisher out. I don't think it would be hard to fab up something to make the pin easier to grab without seeing it (larger ring, strap, etc.).
I think you might be confused. The release pin is not 'additional'. It's easier than the included mount that uses a metal strap with folding tension clasp, which wants you to guide the extinguisher out since it slots into the grooves in the head of the extinguisher and the band stays a bit in the way of getting the extinguisher out. The grooves in the head also restrict orientiation; on the front of a seat, it's either handle facing up or handle facing down, which means the extinguisher pin (that prevents accidental spraying) is horizontal. I'd rather have that pin held in by gravity and the handle not easily snaggable by a passenger's skirt, purse, whatever. With the billet mounting, you just pull the pin. As I said, the band stays on the extinguisher. You don't remove it until you need a new extinguisher. I have the pin's ring tucked under the edge of my Wet Okole seat cover so it can't rattle, but it doesn't have to be. Either way, it's easy to get to it (it's closer to the driver than the clamp release on the included bracket), and I thnk your odds of being able to get it out with the billet parts while strapped into a 5 or 6 point harness are better than with the included bracket. Not that I'd want to do that with either one; much easier to yank a driver-accessible release cable for an integrated fire suppression system in that case, and even in sanctions allowed it, I'd not use a handheld for a dedicated track car.

What's truly important is that the extinguisher can't come out when you don't want it out. Especially true if there's one on the driver side seat; you DON'T want it to roll under your pedals and preventing 'both feet in'. The included bracket and the billet parts both serve that purpose just fine. The billet parts look nicer and are easier to use when it comes time to get the extinguisher out; pull the pin and out it comes.

If you can't tell, I did think about this quite a bit. Your choice, but there was reasoning behind my buying $130 worth of billet mounting parts for a $125 extinguisher.
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