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Old 09-16-2007, 08:40 PM
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After seeing the H3R mounts, the spring-clip mount for my Amerex looks pretty cheesy.
That's what did it for me, but my basis for comparison was the spring-clip mount for my 2.5 lb H3R Halotron.

Looks great DWM!
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Old 09-16-2007, 08:49 PM
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That's what did it for me, but my basis for comparison was the spring-clip mount for my 2.5 lb H3R Halotron.

Looks great DWM!
The aluminum one doesn't work on the Z4.

The stock clip bracket (344T size) works fine once it's attached to my custom bracket.
Very secure.
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Old 09-17-2007, 01:07 PM
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That's what did it for me, but my basis for comparison was the spring-clip mount for my 2.5 lb H3R Halotron.

Looks great DWM!
My Amerex is also a 2.5 lb, and seeing how close the billet mount is to the carpet, I'm not so sure the spring-clip mount would leave enough room to pull the extinguisher free in a hurry.
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Old 09-17-2007, 04:51 PM
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My Amerex is also a 2.5 lb, and seeing how close the billet mount is to the carpet, I'm not so sure the spring-clip mount would leave enough room to pull the extinguisher free in a hurry.
I suspect the floor wouldn't be an issue. Keep in mind the cocomats are thick and the picture I took was with the seat as low as it will go. Adrenaline will do wonders for getting the extinguisher out. I just don't like the look of the included bracket nor the restriction of orientation.

I wrapped most of the plates yesterday. Derek, I need your mailing address to ship. Ditto for Terry. Fred, I need to pick up some bubble wrap for your parts; hopefully tomorrow.

I may or may not have enough rivet nuts and shim washers to ship those, and you guys would have to tell me which rivet nuts you plan to use. The lever-style tool is $130.51 (McMaster-Carr 95603A770), plus $15.56 for the M8 mandrel and nose (McMaster-Carr 95603A950). IMHO it's the only option for the steel rivet nuts. The plier-style tool might work on the aluminum ones, but I personally wouldn't risk it considering what you're in for if you bugger one. On the upside, a good rivet nut tool is a handy thing to have. I haven't tried a wrench-type tool (McMaster-Carr 96349A815, $35.00), nor the t-handle type tool (McMaster-Carr 98590A100 $52.36 plus M8 mandrel 98590A350 $18.12).
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Old 09-17-2007, 05:23 PM
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I suspect the floor wouldn't be an issue. Keep in mind the cocomats are thick and the picture I took was with the seat as low as it will go. Adrenalie will do wonders for getting the extinguisher out.
I have the same seat/mat configuration. You're right though, if the car's on fire, the bugger is coming out one way or another.

You have a PM with shipping info.
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:10 PM
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I guess I'll add another expensive tool to the collection, the lever style -- it is a monster, but the steel rivet nuts are what's right for the job.

So put me down for the steel rivet nuts.
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Old 09-20-2007, 02:26 AM
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Old 11-10-2008, 04:56 PM
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Part 1 of 2 photos of an installed 2.5# H3R HG250R Haloguard fire extinguisher with the dwm bracket and the dwm powder coated H3R billet clamp and mount.

1. I borrowed a $500 version of the lever-style rivet tool for setting the M8 steel rivets into the seat -- that made it much easier, and the body shop guy set it up so I avoided other potential screw ups. The McMaster cone drill bit suggested by dwm saved me from problems drilling in the seat sheet metal.

2. Yes, I know I've got a screw loose (at least one).

3. No, I was never good at vacuuming.

Picture #1 from above looking down on passenger seat.
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Old 11-10-2008, 04:59 PM
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Picture 2 of 2, a 2 photo pano looking at the front of the seat.

Yes, the seat moves and the fire extinguisher can be released. I mounted the top edge of the dwm bracket at the leather/cloth seam, or a 3/16" higher than dwm did. I also have the stock ///M mats, which are thinner than the coco mats.
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Old 11-10-2008, 05:31 PM
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I've noticed some odd things in the pano -- so, for reference, I've included the two underlying photos.
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Old 11-10-2008, 09:28 PM
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Looks good Fred. I'm glad it worked out. You've got more room side-to-side than I expected. Are the pictures with the seat all the way down? I know you have the seat tilt shims, I'm just curious. Maybe my next extinguisher will be the 250 instead of the 100 I have now.

So sorry it took so long to get the parts to you. And thanks to Randy for taking care of shipping it out for me. It's good to have friends.

Now I just need to get the other ones out to people (Derek). Not going to happen in the next 4 weeks, I'm starting the move. FINALLY sold the house! I had to call Randy last night just to tell him, "I moved the air compressor; it no longer feels like home."
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Old 11-10-2008, 09:40 PM
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Are the pictures with the seat all the way down? I know you have the seat tilt shims, I'm just curious.
The seat is all the way down. This passenger seat has no shims, all stock (except for the custom extinguisher bracket).

I'll get a side shot tomorrow. If you compare it to your earlier shot of the 1# extinquisher, it looks more rotated out and forward, probably because I moved the bracket position up that 3/16" (which seems to be on a bit of a curve).

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So sorry it took so long to get the parts to you.
No apology needed. This is an all volunteer effort. Thanks again for all your work (and Randy's shipping).

And "quality work takes time." A motto of mine.

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FINALLY sold the house!
Congratulations. I hope the move works out well. Will you be fully moved in when you have the compressor going again?

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Now I just need to get the other ones out to people (Derek).
I'll be in Sarasote at Christmas time -- I can help "sidewalk supervise" his install (and I have some of extras of the McMaster parts and the conical bit).

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Old 11-11-2008, 11:03 AM
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The install looks great, Fred. Daniel's bracket really blends in well.

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Now I just need to get the other ones out to people (Derek).
If you PM me your PayPal address, I'll send out your payment and you can ship the bracket whenever is convenient for you. Congrats on getting the house sold!

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I'll be in Sarasote at Christmas time -- I can help "sidewalk supervise" his install (and I have some of extras of the McMaster parts and the conical bit).
I'll have to start rounding up parts and tools, then. I should probably get my extinguisher checked again too. It was supposed to be inspected the same month I bought it (has tags to this effect), but the gauge makes it seems as though it might be losing pressure.

If you need a place to work on your car while you're in town (if you're bringing it), just drop me a line. I should have most anything that you'd need.
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Old 11-11-2008, 11:11 AM
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Derek, I won't be driving from LA to Sarasota, so I don't need a place to work.

I can bring some of the McMaster SS shim washers, some extra rivets, and a loaner for the drill bit, if you'd like.
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Old 11-11-2008, 11:18 AM
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Thanks, I'd appreciate it. I only have straight bits at the moment, though I just hate to buy new tools...
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Old 11-17-2008, 04:52 PM
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Side view, with seat all the way back and down. And I even vacuumed the carpet a bit.
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Been following this...sort of...has anyone considered the griots chrome extinguisher?
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Old 11-17-2008, 05:25 PM
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Been following this...sort of...has anyone considered the griots chrome extinguisher?
Those appear to be identical to the H3R Halguard fire extinquishers that we've been discussing here ( http://www.h3rperformance.com/halguard_products.htm ).

Or it's the Amerex extinguisher and the H3R mounting brackets ( http://www.amerex-fire.com/Literature/halotron.pdf )

All probably made in the same place.

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Those appear to be identical to the H3R Halguard fire extinquishers that we've been discussing here ( http://www.h3rperformance.com/halguard_products.htm ).

Or it's the Amerex extinguisher and the H3R mounting brackets ( http://www.amerex-fire.com/Literature/halotron.pdf )

All probably made in the same place.

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Thanks. Guess it's sometimes about personal taste. For me, the chrome does it.

Love the mounts I have seen here!
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Old 11-17-2008, 06:47 PM
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Both H3R and Amerex offer chrome (and Griot's). The H3R mounts are available in polished or brushed aluminum.

I wanted mine in red because I wanted it to LOOK like a fire extingisher..... the black powdercoat blends into the existing interior.
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Old 11-17-2008, 07:55 PM
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Thanks. Guess it's sometimes about personal taste. For me, the chrome does it.

Love the mounts I have seen here!
Still have a few of the mounting plates left.
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Guys - Any thoughts on how I can mount a 2lb extinguisher in a Z4M Coupe?
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Thanks Ron.

Will dwm's below style attachment mechanism also work on the Z4M seats?

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Thanks Ron.

Will dwm's below style attachment mechanism also work on the Z4M seats?
Don't know.
I assume if the Z3 works it could be done on the Z4.
I can look and see but you need the 2.5 lb for sure. I'll post a pic later.
A comment in the following and the pic for the mount kit.

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