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Old 08-23-2007, 07:24 PM
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from X5 to X3?

X5 3.0 6spd manual lease up soon. wanted 535xiT 6spd but side crash results scaring me away. new X5 is big and not fun (drove both 3.0 and 4.8 multiple times). drove the X3 with sport and really liked it. only bummers are no heated steering wheel with sport, no rear sunshade option, and no heating/cooling for rear seats. i know that sounds silly, but i want it all. has anyone gone from X5 to X3, and any comments for me?
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Old 08-23-2007, 07:56 PM
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X5 came with a stick?

I have an X3 with manual and am really like the vehicle. Drives very smoothly. I came out on an E46 e325i with sport and while not as nimble as the car the X3 is still quite fun to drive.
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Old 08-23-2007, 09:09 PM
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X5 was available with 6spd manual in 3.0
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Old 08-23-2007, 09:12 PM
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If you're going from an E53 to a E83, you won't find it too small. If anything, you'll find it bigger since the cargo capacity is larger on the X3 at 71 cu. ft. You may not like some of the plastics in the interior, but '07 fixed that a bit. However, don't get an '07 X3 with the automatic. That's a big NO. Overall, the X3 is more nimble and a well-sized package; big enough to hold most of your stuff, small enough to be easy manueverable around town, squirting in and out of spaces.
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:34 PM
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:29 PM
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he means AC/Heater vents
Oh, my bad. Thanks KJ
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Old 08-24-2007, 06:32 AM
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However, don't get an '07 X3 with the automatic. That's a big NO.
What's so bad about the X3 with auto?
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Old 08-24-2007, 06:56 AM
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What's so bad about the X3 with auto?
just look at the threads nnearby....


http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=224576


and IMHO...the X3 does feel small inside compared to the X5....
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What's so bad about the X3 with auto?
You don't need to scroll down very far on the X3 forum page to find the answer.
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Old 08-24-2007, 08:51 AM
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I just moved from a 2003 X5 3.0 to a 2007 X3. I loved my X5, but I am very surprised how much I really enjoy the X3. I miss the width and shoulder room of the X5 and having a bit more space between the driver and the passenger. I also miss the higher ride height of the X5. But the X3 is much more fun to drive and it handles cargo very well. The lower lift in height on the tailgate is nice when you are moving cases of water or suitcases around.
The positives outweigh the negatives and the X3 is great!
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Old 08-24-2007, 09:27 AM
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You don't need to scroll down very far on the X3 forum page to find the answer.
There does appear to be quite a few owners who dislike the auto on the X3. I have only had mine for a few weeks so I may change my story over time but I like the auto. It shifts very smoothly under any conditions I have tried. In fairness I think it depends on how you use the car. Mine has a baby seat in the back so one might expect that my driving practise is not demanding. Not to say the X3 isn't a lot of fun to test out now and again.

If you want a real sports model then go after the 32x XI series. If you want a multi purpose luxury vehicle with amazing handling and performance for a SAV then go for the X3 - even in the automatic.

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I'm one of those who moved from X5 3.0 MT to X3 3.0 MT. The biggest difference you'll notice upon first driving is - the weight. Yes, a few hundred pounds make a whole world of difference in driving feel. The X5 feels like a tank compared to the X3.

Do I like the X5? Absolutely! But the X3 is a completely different type of vehicle that leans more toward fun than comfortable. I do miss all those nice features of the X5, especially the rear sunshades, and the comfort and quietness of a cruise. But the X3 gives me a different set of moods when I'm driving. I feel a lot younger driving the X3.

So it really boils down to your priority. If you want a quieter, more luxurious, more comfortable ride, get the X5. The X3 is not enough to accomplish that. But if you want more fun, excitement, performance and just plain utility, the X3 is a better choice. And, unfortunately, you have to accept the fact that you can't get it all, unless you get both. And yes, get the 6sp., it's much better than that of your old X5.

Oh... forgot to mention, if you want the X3 with rear sunshades, check out the thread below:

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=139505

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Old 08-24-2007, 12:30 PM
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There does appear to be quite a few owners who dislike the auto on the X3. I have only had mine for a few weeks so I may change my story over time but I like the auto. It shifts very smoothly under any conditions I have tried. In fairness I think it depends on how you use the car. Mine has a baby seat in the back so one might expect that my driving practise is not demanding. Not to say the X3 isn't a lot of fun to test out now and again.
Your success with the automatic gearbox isn't dependent on how you drive. There are many of those who complain that drive softly and normally. And unfortunately, the gearbox on their X3s cannot seem to cope with part-throttle at all, leaving supposed gaps in the power response and teeth-shattering downshifts for no apparent reason. Dealer fixes have also had varying degrees of success.

Of course, individual results may vary. But the sheer number of complaints on this forum, even if it represents a small sample, is too much. I don't recall ever being such a widespread problem ever on the X3 forum.
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