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E36 (1991 - 1999)
The E36 chassis 3-Series BMW was a huge hit among driving enthusiasts from the first moment the car hit the pavement. The E36 won numerous awards over the years it was produced and is still a favorite of many BMW enthusiasts to this day! -- View the E36 Wiki

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Old 08-27-2007, 10:40 AM
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Ok, so I go to a local car club meet and here we are just chatting about cars in general. They finally ask me what kind of car I have, i proudly respond with "I have a 96' 328is". They kind of look at me like, why? I inquire why they reacted like that. They claim that before virtually any modification besides simple bolt ons or what i already have done (intake, short shifter) that you need to tweek the ecu. Also they claim that all of the time and money that you have to pay to get that done is just so expensive and time consuming because it has to be done at a dinan certified dealer or some other bmw certified place (and we all know those guys charge an arm and a leg) that its just not worth having, if you plan to modify your car heavily. (ie, larger injectors, cam, pistons, rods, rr's or even a simple throttle body)

I figure that I can at least do the m50 intake manifold conversion, underdrive pullys, and suspension work with no problem at all. However I know that eventually I prolly will end up digging into the cam, or at least boring out the throttle body.

Is there any easy way to resolve this? Can i just get stage II dinan software and be done with it? or is all their talk a load of crap.
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Old 08-27-2007, 11:19 AM
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Yes and no. You can do the cheaper stuff like intake, headers, exhaust, M50 mani, larger intake pipes, etc without needing to do much. Now if you start tweaking with the valvetrain and cams and the like, yeah, you're definitely gonna need to tune it. I think Dinan & TMS/Conforti make shark injectors (actually, I think a lot of aftermarket cams from good brands come with shark injectors) for the modified cams.

Oh, and no, it doesn't need to be taken anywhere, just get a shark injector designed for a new tune for cams, and plug it in and let it do it's thing. No taking it to dealers.
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:32 PM
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Wow, they seem like they know what they are talking about.... sheeze

Personally, Ive never brought my car to have work done to it...maybe for some legal requirements but certainly not for something thats not, so saying that it NEEDS to be brought to anybody certified is horseplop. Maybe for the n0ebz to get a stamp of guarantee & a receipt, but most certainly not a requirement! THere are tons of ECU tuning software out there that anyone can learn and use!

Saying that BMWs are the only car that requires tuning after engine modifications is just retarded. EVERY car requires tuning after a mod that affects the engine's ability.
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:44 PM
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Old 08-27-2007, 05:10 PM
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there was a e46 m3 there, however i never got a chance to talk to him. most of the cars were either trans ams or 350's, but it was a diverse bunch. They just seemed to be anti-bmw. I know all cars will require tuning at some point in the modification process. They just seemed to make a big deal about how bmws require SO much more tuning than any other car on the face of the earth.

I just thought I'd take my question here to people that actually know somthing about a bmw. :-)
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Bounzing Zouls- I put the dinan chip in my own DME. It tok 10 minutes- seriously. If you want I'd be happy to walk you through the process step by step.
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Phillip, his is an OBDII, so he can't use a chip. He has to have a shark injector, which you plug into the car (I think in the OBDII port I'd assume?). But the chip isn't replaceable.
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Old 08-27-2007, 10:57 PM
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your right it is obdII. does Dinan not offer a plug and play one? I had my durango superchipped. It was quite possibly the easiest upgrade ever.
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Yeah, Dinan does. Just plug in the injector, let it do its thing, and remove. Simple as that.
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Am sure it plugs in the OBDI port in the Engine bay buddy....
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yeah, thats kinda what i thought. Sorry... still relativly new with bimmers. On the dinger there was a port under the stearing wheel where I could plug in superchips, and it just did its thing and was like "BING" then your good to go.
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They just seemed to be anti-bmw
Most car groups are, unless they're BMW car groups.
Down here, to the CCVT (Car Club of Virginia Tech), we're 'elitist pricks'.
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This is why we started our own enthusiasts group.
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...Virginia Tech hey!!

My mates are all in to Jap cars and so hate my BMW....t0ssers!
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Virginia Tech! That's right!
Here's the group page:
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I think the filters on the forum only censor American words, so I think 'tossers' will pass.
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Most car groups are, unless they're BMW car groups.
Down here, to the CCVT (Car Club of Virginia Tech), we're 'elitist pricks'.
Oh well.
This is why we started our own enthusiasts group.
People are strange. Oh well... their loss right?
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Virginia Tech! That's right!
Here's the group page:
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I think the filters on the forum only censor American words, so I think 'tossers' will pass.
Sadly, i only know one thing about Virgina Tech so cant comment buddy
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even though im like 5 hours away, and at a COMPLETELY differance school, I think i got a call from every relative seeing if i was ok.
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Here's one quick bit you can learn about VT that's not depressing.
It's not football proper, but it's what matters here.
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After taking all of these things into account, here are the top 10 home field advantages in college football:

1. Lane Stadium (Virginia Tech)
Lane Stadium in Blacksburg, Va., doesn't blow people away by the brute strength of a massive stadium, but with knowledgeable fans that always reach a frenzied pitch at the right time, the Hokies make the most of their numbers.

Every good stadium has at least one end designed for deafening noise levels, and the enclosed South End Zone at Lane Stadium fits the bill perfectly. Holding more than 11,000 screaming Virginia Tech fans, the section amplifies noise and renders audibles useless. That's not to mention the isolation factor. With the nearest major airport nearly 45 minutes away, opponents' fans are never out in force at Lane Stadium.
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Here's one quick bit you can learn about VT that's not depressing.
It's not football proper, but it's what matters here.
Also, they have fans everywhere. I went to a Wake Forest game last year agains VT and 3/4 of the crowed was freaking red and orange. I was kinda disapointed with the Wake fan turnout. Wake lost though, so i guess it was good for VT.
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We tend to send them everywhere. Wake isn't so far away that most of the students here dismiss driving down to go see it. Luckily, for the VT alumni, there's an airport on campus here, so we get tons of them chartering aircraft in here, which definitely keeps attendance up.
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We tend to send them everywhere. Wake isn't so far away that most of the students here dismiss driving down to go see it. Luckily, for the VT alumni, there's an airport on campus here, so we get tons of them chartering aircraft in here, which definitely keeps attendance up.
holy crap. really? thats intense. I didnt know that.

here at UNCC we have... ummm... a basketball team? haha and... our own zip code
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