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E36 (1991 - 1999)
The E36 chassis 3-Series BMW was a huge hit among driving enthusiasts from the first moment the car hit the pavement. The E36 won numerous awards over the years it was produced and is still a favorite of many BMW enthusiasts to this day! -- View the E36 Wiki

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B/\/\W, are you trying to tell me that your argument has just been backed up by a COMPUTER GAME???
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Racing sim physics engines closely simulate real world physics haha
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Are you HONESTLY trying to tell me that they are realistic enough to make an informed decision on the performance of a car?
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Are you HONESTLY trying to tell me that they are realistic enough to make an informed decision on the performance of a car?
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oh pirate...you have no idea...all people should base their decisions on racing sims before they think about buying/modding a car.

im glad i did...

i played the 1992 arcade version of "out run" and i didnt go and buy a Ferrari because it flipped too easily in the game...
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lol, that game was awesome

I am gonna buy a Mazda RX-8 cos the one i play with in Need for Speed can hit a wall at 120mph and never gets damaged!!
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lol, that game was awesome

I am gonna buy a Mazda RX-8 cos the one i play with in Need for Speed can hit a wall at 120mph and never gets damaged!!
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Racing sim physics engines closely simulate real world physics haha

LOL..I really do think you are joking, you are arnt you......

Not wanting to start a fight, but there is a few things that you should now about computer 'sim' games.

As we know, a racing sim may simulate the cars physics and abilities down to the last detail, and I have no doubt they do, but what a sim game cant replicate is the physiological forces generated by an object in motion and the psychological issues of ones mind when concentrating on a higher level thought process, such as driving at high speed.

As for physiological forces, the sim games cant replicate 'G' forces produced by the body in the simple act of slowing down. They cant replicate the 'movement' a car makes at speed. There are quite a few others, but I wont go on.

As for the psychological issues, the sim games cant replicate the 'fear' factor of going fast. By this I mean, when you play a sim game, the simulation of speed is produced on whatever media you are watching. By this I mean computer monitor, television, or arcade game. Where these sim games fall into being 'not true' is that the bodies periferal vision is not being used. This limits the bodies ability to identify and react to fear. Also, when in a real car, doing a big speed, there is a lot of noise. Not from just in from of you (as would be on a T.V. speaker) but from everywhere. This also reduces the bodies ability to identify and react to stimulus. With work, I have been in cars and driven at huge speeds, 230kph + and there is quite a lot of noise.

Another example of this is with computer flight sims. Everyone can , after a short period can take a plane off, fly it, and land it. You may even throw in details such as huge winds and storms. If it was this easy, why dont airline spend $100.00 on buying flight sim X for there pilots to train on, instead of millions of $$$ to buy a 'motor stimulus simulator'.

This is because a 'motor stimulus simulator' reproduces all the forces and stimuli needed to fly an aircraft, such as climb, dive and touchdown. A 'motor stimulus simulator' can also be made for motor vehicles but again, it cost millions of $$$, not $100.00 at a computer games shop.

So, I believe, on the above information that it WOULD be possible to, on a sim racing game to maybe get a 'better' lap time or quicker speed, as a lot of the real life variables have been removed from the game or cannot be reproduced by it through A.I, but if this was transposed into real life, then you would be surprised at how bad your times would be, and how bad you would crash.

Also, in real life, if you crash at 300kph, you usually die.......not recover and keep driving as in a sim game.

BUT.......OH FCUK YEAH....I would swap my e36 for either of them..!!!


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With the speed limits here in the US it would only be a matter of time before I was arrested if I owned either of those V10 powered M3s.

It's hard enough for me to hang on to my DL driving my 328is.
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I disagree. NFS Underground helped me turn into a pro racer.
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cone...your novels continue to astound and amaze...

...im in college...reading is my job...and even i saw your post and went, "f-ck that, its too much to read"
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[QUOTE=jh1328;2612416]cone...your novels continue to astound and amaze...

...im in college...reading is my job...and even i saw your post and went, "f-ck that, its too much to read"[/QUOTE]


Well..you dont have to read it, thats up to you. I think I learnt to make ramblings like this when I was at Uni, studying........always seemed to get marked well tho...


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http://www.motorauthority.com/news/c...d-with-m5-v10/


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The fact that a racing sim on a computer doesn't replicate real life is not the issue. Just that more power doesn't mean faster cornering speeds, and that a racing sim can demonstrate that. All factors the same, it will make no difference because the grip is the limit, if you are already at optimal cornering speeds. But you really don't need a game to tell you that. Tracks with corners that flow into one another will not necessarily benefit from extra power, that much should be obvious.......
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I partly agree in that more power does not mean faster lap times

I are a very defensive little soul though aren't you!!
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I are a very defensive little soul though aren't you!!
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