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Old 03-20-2003, 09:25 PM
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E46 3xx series space saver spare on a '01 M coupe

I am looking in to using a E46 3 series 3.50BX17 ET:30 space saver spare wheel on my '01 M coupe. The tire is a Continental T125/80/17.
The E46 M3 folks are using this one on their cars.

http://forums.roadfly.org/bmw/forums...=895797&page=2

Received my wheel today. Will order the tire Monday. Will take some pics of the wheel on the car soon.



Based on the following chart it looks like this will work fine.
No adapter needed like with the Porsche one. No spacer if I am looking at this right. Less expensive too. Fits in the back of the coupe. Will be trying it with one of Ed Scubas tow hook mounts at the Maine-iac cruize.
Tire diameters:
Front 225/45/17 = 24.97"
Spare 125/80/17 = 24.87"
Rear 245/40/17 = 24.72"
More to come.


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Old 03-21-2003, 10:24 PM
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did you order the tire from the stealer or did you find a source here in the US?
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Old 03-21-2003, 10:48 PM
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did you order the tire from the stealer or did you find a source here in the US?
I will be ordering it from Paul McLaughlin at South Motors BMW in FL. 1-800-883-7278. He discounts 25% from true suggested retail. He's been there, done that. He will be back from vacation Monday.
Was going to check around locally yesterday, but I went and drove a Z4 instead. What a car. I liked it alot before sitting in one and driving it. Now, I really like it.
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Old 03-25-2003, 07:14 PM
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Whoops. Added tire diameters to original post.
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Old 03-26-2003, 05:24 AM
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did you actually fit the wheel to the front hub yet? The M front brake caliper protrudes out past the hub face quite a bit further than the E46 and E36 non-M's. I think the E46 M brake caliper protrudes out less than the E36 M brake caliper. You can't really predict caliper clearance from an offset chart as shown.
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Old 03-26-2003, 08:19 AM
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did you actually fit the wheel to the front hub yet? The M front brake caliper protrudes out past the hub face quite a bit further than the E46 and E36 non-M's. I think the E46 M brake caliper protrudes out less than the E36 M brake caliper. You can't really predict caliper clearance from an offset chart as shown.
Hell no. No excitment doing it that way. I assumed that with the E46 brakes being larger it would be no problem.
My back up on this was to sell it to an E46 M3 guy for my cost.
Just tried it and it fits fine on the front. Close to 1/2 inch caliper clearance. Will take some pics tonight.
Gotta go pick up my front fenders and bumper.
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Old 03-26-2003, 09:06 PM
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Clearance pics

Tire ships today.






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Old 03-27-2003, 06:58 AM
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Another great solution, Ron. Thanks for sharing. Can't wait to see your tie-down method.

I'm beginning to think you actually have two coupes, though. One that you drive and one that's hermetically sealed in a clean room. I mean it's really hard to find any dirt in any of your pictures. You obviously work very hard at that. Kudos.

Um, what are you doing with the bumper and fenders?
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Old 03-27-2003, 12:33 PM
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Um, what are you doing with the bumper and fenders?
Fenders: Filled signal light holes. New side gill Z4 like design light will replace this as a running and signal light.
Bumper: Filled license plate mount holes and license plate frame slots underneath along with the tow hook and running light holes. Plus had all the chips fixed.
Hope I like the look. It cost me $1676.67 to do the above along with the door handles and surrounds.
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Old 03-28-2003, 12:34 AM
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Another great solution, Ron. Thanks for sharing. Can't wait to see your tie-down method.
Me too.
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Old 03-28-2003, 01:12 AM
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I'm beginning to think you actually have two coupes, though. One that you drive and one that's hermetically sealed in a clean room. I mean it's really hard to find any dirt in any of your pictures. You obviously work very hard at that. Kudos.
Your local folk Shawn McCurdy does it better than I.
Based on the way the underside of her hood looked, I decided to do mine in body color versus the BMW crap primer.
Times running out, so I probably will not do this until next year.

BMW-SC has a serious qualitiy problem in my opinion.
The quality problem appears to be a vendor thing.
Looks like BMW incoming inspection is accepting this crap to keep the sales numbers up.
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Old 03-28-2003, 04:44 PM
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The fender and bumper work sounds very interesting. I look forward to seeing how it works out. Maybe one of these days I'll try to convert my rear hatch to the Euro look. Much cleaner look, very balanced.

Shawn and Jim do keep that car in great shape. But looking at the strut assembly pics you posted earlier, I think you give her a solid run for the money.

How bout this - I'll buy chop house dinner this year at H/C for the cleanest car - you, Shawn, Randy, or Al. That oughta step it up a notch!
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Old 03-28-2003, 05:59 PM
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How bout this - I'll buy chop house dinner this year at H/C for the cleanest car - you, Shawn, Randy, or Al. That oughta step it up a notch!
It won't be my car!
Sue & I just got home from our routine Friday night dinner, in the rain. It was about 70 degrees when we left and took advantage of being able to put the top down on the way there (hdtp still on blk car).

About two weeks ago, I had both cars nearly 3' off the ground and power washed the underside, gave me a warm-fuzzy feeling.
I think I'll do that more often
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Fenders: Filled signal light holes. New side gill Z4 like design light will replace this as a running and signal light.
Interesting, like Skin Mechanic's DIY?
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How bout this - I'll buy chop house dinner this year at H/C for the cleanest car - you, Shawn, Randy, or Al. That oughta step it up a notch!
Wow, throw down the gauntlet! I'm not sure I can compete with Al's...how shall I say...extremely attentive detailing techniques (I was going to use one of those other "a" adjectives) to say nothing of Ron's pristine coupe. But I shall do my best especially for a Chop House dinner! Who's the judge??? Can I bribe you with homebrew?
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Interesting, like Skin Mechanic's DIY?
Not really. The Z4 one sticks out .75 inch. Not sure how much skins sticks out but it looks similar.
Mine will stick out less than .1 inch. This was accomplished using a slightly smaller logo which gives you a small ring (around .1 inch)around the logo. Most folks won't notice the change on my white coupe until they see it lit.
Instead of a lamp, I will use a super bright LED for the running light. I will use several of these for the signal light. This way you don't have to drill the hood like Skin did.
I dropped of the print for my machinist to make a prototype Friday. If it looks right, it's just a matter of adjusting the brightness, which is easy using LEDs.

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Who's the judge??? Can I bribe you with homebrew?
If I'm buying, I'm judging!

re: bribing - you can try!
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I will be ordering it from Paul McLaughlin at South Motors BMW in FL. 1-800-883-7278. He discounts 25% from true suggested retail.
Do they discount 25% of all of their parts/accessories?
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Old 03-29-2003, 07:55 PM
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Do they discount 25% of all of their parts/accessories?
On most parts which have a 40% margin yes. Part retails for $100. They pay $60. You pay $75.
On non parts things like manuals, tools, lifestyle etc. the margin is less. The 10w60 oil used in the S54 engine margin is 10% or so.
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Stealth LED roundel side marker - that's going to look sweet.
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Stealth LED roundel side marker -
Subtle.
that's going to look sweet.
It should. Haven't been there yet.
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Old 04-07-2003, 07:23 PM
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Tire mounted

Had the tire mounted last Friday. No balance necessary according to the mounter. He also added that since I have one now, I'll never have to use it.
Tire wheel assembly weighs a total of 25.2 pounds.
Diameter roughly 25 inches with a width of 5 inches.
E46 manual says to inflate to 61 pounds
Lettering on tire says to inflate to 60.
Wheel uses the stock lug bolts.
Also have the non M jack/crank holder installed with the items along with a tire fix it kit.
I have a rubber mat in the trunk which is not shown in the pic. The rear strap works and the middle one doesn't. The front one has yet to be installed.
As mentioned, I will be trying Ed Scubas mount at the end of May Maine-iac cruize.





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You show the wheel pricing above. What's the pricing on the tire? My car was supposed to come with this but it came with a fullsize instead (don't ask why I'd rather have a donut).
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Old 04-07-2003, 07:39 PM
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You show the wheel pricing above. What's the pricing on the tire? My car was supposed to come with this but it came with a fullsize instead (don't ask why I'd rather have a donut).
My slip shows a suggested retail of $137.00 for
tire 99 00 0 003 134. Based on what I paid,
the margin is small on this item.

Pricing was in the M3 link on the initial post.

http://forums.roadfly.org/bmw/forums...=895797&page=2
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Old 04-08-2003, 03:32 PM
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Z3 Coupe jack tray???

So the Jack tray and Jack are from the Z3 coupe? do they fit directly into the back of the M Coupe without modification?

The spare would definitely be a good thing to have. The M-Mobility system isn't going to save me if I have a blowout. Since this car is my daily driver it's nice to have that extra piece of mind with the spare.


BTW... Great pics Ron
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