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I am a very new owner of a used 2004 330i and can say I love it. I have a 45-minute drive to work that now is not so bad. It was with some measure of satisfaction that I bought the car out from under a Delta pilot that did not have his cash in time. So now as I sit on the tarmac on yet another Delta delayed flight or suffer their poor customer service, I think about unlocking the car, starting the engine and driving home, all with a smile.
Otherwise, I must admit slightly being overwhelmed by all of the new things I have to know owning this car. My previous plod horses were - gas, wash and change the oil, this is a bit more of a thoroughbred.
So, as I have time, I'll be back for a read, but I would rather drive....

Congrats on your purchase. I hope you get many happy miles out of your vehicle. =]
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Congrats on your '04 330i. You might want to check out the E46 forum, that is what you have!
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I am trying to get a CPO 330i here.

Can someone help me with the pricing and dealer negotiations?
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Take into consideration that mine was not CPO.

I paid $30K for my '06 330i with 16,900 miles 3 months ago. I have premium, sport, heated seats, and a 6 speed manual.
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Take into consideration that mine was not CPO.

I paid $30K for my '06 330i with 16,900 miles 3 months ago. I have premium, sport, heated seats, and a 6 speed manual.
Are CPO's more expensive?

I am looking at '05 330i with 41K miles with performance package CPO'd. How much should I be looking to spend? I tried looking at KBB but it doesn't include the cost/ value for CPO and performance package options.
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I am looking at '05 330i with 41K miles with performance package CPO'd. How much should I be looking to spend? I tried looking at KBB but it doesn't include the cost/ value for CPO and performance package options.
Maybe the e46 forum could answer this question a little better. Here is a non CPO one for 25K

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Yes, CPO are more expensive since they have the 100K warranty and some other criteria, like 100% dealer service and 1 owner I think....The CPO's available in my neck of the woods were a lot more expensive than the deal I got from a private dealer, even when the extended warranty is accounted for.

Since the E90 came out in 2005 with the early '06 models, you might want to consider that as opposed to the E46 you are looking for.....B'Pecan is right - if you want an E46 (2005 330i) you should post in that forum. This is the E90 (2006+) forum.
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Since the E90 came out in 2005 with the early '06 models, you might want to consider that as opposed to the E46 you are looking for.....B'Pecan is right - if you want an E46 (2005 330i) you should post in that forum. This is the E90 (2006+) forum.
Is there a lot of difference between E46 and E90?? It was the same engine and exterior, right?
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Is there a lot of difference between E46 and E90?? It was the same engine and exterior, right?
I hope you're kidding.
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I hope you're kidding.
No. I am just uninformed. Enlighten me please.
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E90 is the new body and engines.
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No. I am just uninformed. Enlighten me please.
Alright, then. Sorry for being rude about that.

An e46 comes in many body tags. The one's you might be more familiar with are the 325i, and the 330i. They also made them in 328i, and 323i. These are the American models. They came with a variety of engines ranging from 180? Horsepower to 225, depending on the type of e46.

This is an e46 (From later build, before the e90):


The e90 is the latest model of 3 series out. This includes the respective 325 and 330i models (carried on from the e46 line), but was almost immediately updated to the 328i and 335i models. The horsepower in these vehicles range from 215? to 300 horsepower.

This is an e90 (keep in mind the e91 is the 3-series wagon, the e92 is the coupe, and the 93 is a convertible. Or a Coupvertible if you're a BJ fanatic :P ):



I hope this was informational.

I know I screwed up on some horsepower facts, so no flaming please. Odd how I have to beg ahead of time. lol

Feel free anybody to chime in, or state correct data.
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This here is an e91:


This here is an e92:


This here is an e93:
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E92 and E93 are honey dripping eye-candies. Curse you, BMWFS, for shattering my dreams!

However, I was always under the impression that 2006 330i was a part of E46 gen as well. Nice body but its pretty bad that they shorted the '06 buyers in comparison to the twin turbos. Even though its E90 but the "330i" badge pushes it back a generation in eyes of unknown (did to me).

Is the engine of E90 (330i) much different from E46? I read a lot of good things by E46 owners as it was the flagship model of the last M3 and a really good ride to get a feel of the road. How was 330i E90 compared to that?
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E92 and E93 are honey dripping eye-candies. Curse you, BMWFS, for shattering my dreams!

However, I was always under the impression that 2006 330i was a part of E46 gen as well. Nice body but its pretty bad that they shorted the '06 buyers in comparison to the twin turbos. Even though its E90 but the "330i" badge pushes it back a generation in eyes of unknown (did to me).

Is the engine of E90 (330i) much different from E46? I read a lot of good things by E46 owners as it was the flagship model of the last M3 and a really good ride to get a feel of the road. How was 330i E90 compared to that?
The last e46 I believe was made for 2005 model year, and the e90 was produced in 2005, but released as an 06. I know my car is an 06 330i. And yeah, I feel shorted.

I think the engine is still the basic platform, with some minor technical upgrades: I saw an advertisement that the e46 bolts in the engine were steel, and the e90 are a higher grade, lighter design. Something like that.

Of the e46 3-series, the M3 would be considered the "racing spec" car. Flagship would be more of the 330i, IMO - but that is up for debate. The e90,91,92 & 93 models have the same good road feel, if not better. The suspension is a LOT better in the newer cars, providing a very firm, nice feel. Of course, run flats are a non-negotiable option on most new BMW's (sad ), and this may compromise ride quality.

Anyone should feel free to chime in, by the way. Don't take my words for solid fact, because I know I slipped up on some dates or horsepower... O_O
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The E90 normally aspirated 6 cylinder engines - the N52 engine in the 2006+ 325, 328, and 330 - are different from the E46 engines, which were the M54. N52 is lighter and more powerful, and made from magnesium alloy with some other enhancements to reduce weight and/or increase efficiency. N52 is actually a newer engine design than the N54 in the 335, which is based on the M54 technology that came before the N52. Check out the e9x wiki and do a search on the N52 engine. Also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_E90, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_N52, and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M54#M54B30 for more info.

In 2006 the convertible, (and maybe the coupe and/or wagon?) were still the E46 platform in the US. That may be where your confusion came from Carsnoceans.
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The E90 normally aspirated 6 cylinder engines - the N52 engine in the 2006+ 325, 328, and 330 - are different from the E46 engines, which were the M54. N52 is lighter and more powerful, and made from magnesium alloy with some other enhancements to reduce weight and/or increase efficiency. N52 is actually a newer engine design than the N54 in the 335, which is based on the M54 technology that came before the N52. Check out the e9x wiki and do a search on the N52 engine. Also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_E90, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_N52, and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M54#M54B30 for more info.

In 2006 the convertible, (and maybe the coupe and/or wagon?) were still the E46 platform in the US. That may be where your confusion came from Carsnoceans.
Excellent info on the engines. Thanks!
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The E90 normally aspirated 6 cylinder engines - the N52 engine in the 2006+ 325, 328, and 330 - are different from the E46 engines, which were the M54. N52 is lighter and more powerful, and made from magnesium alloy with some other enhancements to reduce weight and/or increase efficiency. N52 is actually a newer engine design than the N54 in the 335, which is based on the M54 technology that came before the N52.
My understanding is that the N54B30 (335i's 3.0L twin-turbo I6) only shares the block with the M54 engine family. The rest of the N54's components are either new or similar to the N52 family. Interestingly enough, there is already a direct-injection N53 engine (introduced in 2007) replacing the N52, but it's currently not sold in the U.S.
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The last e46 I believe was made for 2005 model year, and the e90 was produced in 2005, but released as an 06. I know my car is an 06 330i. And yeah, I feel shorted.

I think the engine is still the basic platform, with some minor technical upgrades: I saw an advertisement that the e46 bolts in the engine were steel, and the e90 are a higher grade, lighter design. Something like that.

Of the e46 3-series, the M3 would be considered the "racing spec" car. Flagship would be more of the 330i, IMO - but that is up for debate. The e90,91,92 & 93 models have the same good road feel, if not better. The suspension is a LOT better in the newer cars, providing a very firm, nice feel. Of course, run flats are a non-negotiable option on most new BMW's (sad ), and this may compromise ride quality.

Anyone should feel free to chime in, by the way. Don't take my words for solid fact, because I know I slipped up on some dates or horsepower... O_O
Actually, the e46 was still produced as a 2006 MY coupe and convertible - the e90 sedan, which was the first body type to come out, debuted a bit earlier than the other body types. I don't believe there were any 2006 MY e92 or e93, only the e91 and e90. If you wanted a 3-series coupe or 'vert at that time, only the e46 versions were available.

Regarding the engines, 2006 was the only year that BMW offered the 325/330 in the new e9x generation of cars (at least in the US). However, the engines in the 2006 e90 are not even remotely the same as the e46 engines - completely new.

Regarding the comment that people don't realize the 2006 e90 is different than an e46 model because the "325" and "330" designation is the same, well that's ridiculous. The cars look completely different, and BMW has been using the same model names for years. You can in fact get an e46 "328", but no one is going to mistake it for an e9x. The 3xx numbers have been re-used for years, going back before the e46.

BTW, to the best of my knowledge, the e9x is the first time BMW gave a different designation to the 3-series body types. The e36, e46, and I'm sure a few others used to refer to sedans, tourings, coupes, and convertibles. In other words, a 2005 330/325 convertible is an e46, along with a 2005 330/325 coupe and 2005 330/325 sedan.
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So how do the E90 330i owners feel about the E46 330i? Of course the looks are much different but I don't know about the performance.
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So how do the E90 330i owners feel about the E46 330i? Of course the looks are much different but I don't know about the performance.
I actually like the e46 body style, but the perfomance of the e90 is far superior... 255HP
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Along with the better performance, I believe the E90 330i also gets better mileage than E46 330.
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I actually like the e46 body style, but the perfomance of the e90 is far superior... 255HP
I was under the impression E46 with ZHP gave a 255HP output too, no?
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