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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 06-11-2011, 04:49 PM
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REAR Window Regulator, what is the update?

Today, it is my turn to get the famous REAR Window Regulator problem.
Luckily it failed in the UP position.

I have looked at relevant threads, from:
1- New regulator (expensive option) ---> PN 51-35-8-252-429 ---> $270!!!

2- Repair kit on ebay (by "Lance")...just install the new hardware.

http://www.bmwrepairkit.com/welcome.html

3- Any "Ghetto Fix"?

Just want to know what everyone is doing before I tackle this project.

It is endless love with this E39 machine, one thing after another, it fails like clockwork ha (not complaining but just saying it)!

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Old 06-11-2011, 05:05 PM
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3- Any "Ghetto Fix"?

Just want to know what everyone is doing before I tackle this project.

I do know that if you need to buy some time you can use a vise grip to secure the window up. At one point I even had a shoebox full of cheapie HF vise grips b/c the service writer kept giving owners their keys back with my nicer vise grips still "temporarily" holding up their windows if they declined the repair.
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Old 06-11-2011, 05:31 PM
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Its a BMW!!! Fix it the right way! Just my .02
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Old 06-11-2011, 09:14 PM
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For the price of a single screw, some people permanently hold the window in place ...
- Do you know a good way to keep a side window up (now off the track) for a few days

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Old 06-11-2011, 09:17 PM
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If you can't do a repair, you can send it away to have it repaired or buy one and they will pay you for your broken one: http://www.regulatorusa.com/
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Old 06-11-2011, 09:41 PM
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I recently put aftermarket rear regulators in our 1998 model. Both were destroyed and the windows pinned in the up position with cotter pins when we purchased the e39 a couple months ago. They are the Uro brand from Rockauto. com. A little under $100 each. Funny thing is the rockauto description specifically says "w/o motor," but these regulators most certainly had a motor attached to the regulator. "Bonus," I thought. OEM are close to $300 each from autohausaz. com. I'm guessing these aftermarket units will last at least 1/3 the time of an OEM regulator. No labor charge to factor in, all DIY. For 100 bucks, I'd buy a new part.

The Bentley manual is woefully inadequate for changing the rear regulator. Look up the youtube video, or I guess you said you already looked at the BMWrepairkit site.

good luck,
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Old 06-11-2011, 09:51 PM
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The Bentley manual is woefully inadequate for changing the rear regulator. Look up the youtube video, or I guess you said you already looked at the BMWrepairkit site.

good luck,
Brett
1(spagetti coder doesn't have the exact directions but the linked one is pretty close)
http://tis.spaghetticoder.org/s/view.pl?1/03/82/89

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http://tis.spaghetticoder.org/s/view.pl?1/03/82/92
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Old 06-11-2011, 10:03 PM
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I just reviewed the instructions by the seller of the repair kit:
http://www.bmwrepairkit.com/instructions.htm

I think I can fix this using stuff I have laying around in my garage.
I have come up with many ghetto fixes for many problems in different cars so I think I can handle this issue at no cost.
Stay tuned for the next DIY...LOL.

Otherwise a broken broomstick may be what the doctor prescribes...LOL.

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Old 06-12-2011, 12:40 AM
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Easy to fix

I bought Lance's repair kit, but when I pulled the regulators out, the repair wouldn't work on them because they were twisted.
I then ordered no-name brand regulators from FCP Groton (approx USD80 each) and using the instructions from bmwrepairkit.com I removed the windows and bolted them in. Easy.
They sounded noisy at first when used, but now are silent.
I'm not mechanically minded, but found the job easy by following the instructions for door panel removal and window & regulator removal.
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Old 06-12-2011, 07:22 AM
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I found this on ebay, being sold by someone from Germany, $18 + 12 shipping, so $30 total:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-E...#ht_1503wt_880

What do you think?

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Old 06-12-2011, 10:05 AM
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Depends on what the problem is. Burnt motor? Mangled cable from broken pulley? Loose bolt holding the window or regulator assembly?

What is is doing (or not doing)? I replaced my rear regulator ('98 528) with an OEM from Pelican, inc motor and track assembly. Huge ash pain, with what could have been an easy job were it not for one bolt holding the track in place that was behind the window. Impossible to get the window out of the way without removing it. Removing it required taking trim off of the window frame exterior. Maybe its just me, but I hate any kind of body work.

Between my two E39s, twice Ive had just a clamp bolt that holds the glass come loose (easy and free), and three regulator failures (cable mangled, $$ and ash pain).
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Old 06-12-2011, 07:15 PM
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Thanks Flybot, I am pretty sure it is exactly as shown by "Lance":
http://www.bmwrepairkit.com/welcome.html


I can hear the motor running but window does not come down (luckily it stays up, otherwise it will get a "old broom" treatment from me LOL).

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Old 10-14-2012, 06:33 PM
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I found this on ebay, being sold by someone from Germany, $18 + 12 shipping, so $30 total:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-E...#ht_1503wt_880

What do you think?

There's a guy out of Michigan that sells the same part (also on Ebay); probably cheaper shipping, definitely quicker.
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Old 10-14-2012, 06:51 PM
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haha... I just did this Saturday. Started last Saturday with taking everything apart, pulling the old regulator & Motor out, which the PO put a screw in it to keep it up. Got the new Ebay unit in.... damn thing has a broken trolley gimick. They send me out a "metal" regulator, swap the motor over, fixed. I will say.... I'm going OEM on regulators from now on. Not worth the savings. Even this new aftermarket regulator is cheap.
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Old 10-15-2012, 03:54 AM
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I have an fcp front regulator. Dont recommend it. It doesnt work right. I thought i had it adjusted wrong so i went to the glass shop and they said i had a bad motor. New motor and it still barely goes up making all kinds of noises.
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Old 10-15-2012, 07:58 AM
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The aftermarket stuff is as good as a broomstick.

Either:
1. Fix it using the kit I mentioned (the bracket).
2. Get OEM regulator at a higher cost but you will never have to do it again during the remaining life of the car.
3. Get a broomstick to prop the glass up but this is only a temporary, or perhaps permanent, solution.
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Old 10-15-2012, 08:30 AM
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a couple yrs ago, I bought this from the europe seller (romania?)


the part was molded w/ the outer body being too wide. So the window didn't roll up all the way tight, nor did it roll down all the way flush. I'd stay away from that part and seller, as it took me 3 weeks to get it the 2nd time around (1st time USPS lost it)
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Old 10-15-2012, 08:42 AM
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Haha,

Because the casting of the bracket was a bit off.
I used the same part w/o problem, all you have to do is:
- Grease the track on the window regulator first
- After install, run the window up and down a few times so the new part scrapes off some metal from the guide on the WR (b/c the bracket is slightly off on the molding).
After 10 runs it is smooth as silk.
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:20 PM
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all you have to do is
I just added this nice information to this thread so that others may benefit:
- How to fabricate your own power window regulator repair kit (1)
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See also: E39 Bestlinks & How to easily find what you need
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