eas | Official DICE SILVERLINE iPod Integration Kit Q/A Thread

Originally Posted by dcchurchill

Tom,
I have an original Dice purchased from you about a year ago installed with trunk kit in an '01 E39 w/DSP and Sirius. If I purchase the Silverline can I simply replace the Dice unit with the Silverline using the existing cables?

All you would need is a replacement module, your existing cables and DSP adapter can be retained:

DICE - SILVERLINE iPod Integration Module Upgrade
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...oducts_id=1638

These are in stock, let me know if you need anything else.

Originally Posted by zerock

so far so good with the silverline. The only complaint I have so far is that When i use the iPod classic and go to a short playlist i made. It doesn't respect the order of the tracks instead it plays them on album order, this doesn't happen on the iPhone, it works correctly on it.

The iPod classic is version 1.1, I just updated to 1.1.1 right now, let's see if it makes a difference tomorrow.

Please keep me posted on your findings.

When will we get one that works with the e9x models??

Originally Posted by Boraxo

When will we get one that works with the e9x models??

We already have 2 choices:

mObridge - iPod integration kit for e90/91/92/93 3-series
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...oducts_id=1651

BMW - iPod Integration Kit for e90/e91/e92 3-series
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...roducts_id=393

e9X vehicles are very lucky on the features they get.

Hi Tom,

I'm interested in the BMW - iPod Integration Kit for e90/e91/e92 3-series for my 2008 3 series coupe. Do you have instructions that I could look at before deciding to make this purchase?

Being that it's a 2008, do you have any knowledge about whether I will need the dealer to activate it?

Thanks for your help.

Todd

Originally Posted by JTBurn

Hi Tom,

I'm interested in the BMW - iPod Integration Kit for e90/e91/e92 3-series for my 2008 3 series coupe. Do you have instructions that I could look at before deciding to make this purchase?

Being that it's a 2008, do you have any knowledge about whether I will need the dealer to activate it?

Thanks for your help.

Todd

Do you have a CD changer present in the vehicle? Otherwise, you will need dealer activation.

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

We already have 2 choices:

mObridge - iPod integration kit for e90/91/92/93 3-series
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...oducts_id=1651

BMW - iPod Integration Kit for e90/e91/e92 3-series
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...roducts_id=393

e9X vehicles are very lucky on the features they get.

Thanks, but $299 - $599 is a bit rich for my blood, at that price I'm happy to wait as my CD player works just fine (not to mention the Sirius option, which only requires a small monthly fee).

Any change we'll see a cheaper DICE Silverline model soon for the newer vehicles?

Originally Posted by Boraxo

Thanks, but $299 - $599 is a bit rich for my blood, at that price I'm happy to wait as my CD player works just fine (not to mention the Sirius option, which only requires a small monthly fee).

Any change we'll see a cheaper DICE Silverline model soon for the newer vehicles?

DICE will only be for ibus vehicles, not the e9X applications.

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Please keep me posted on your findings.

same behaviour on new iPod classic firmware. It doesn't follow playlist track order. it just plays them by album from a-z.

And well as said before. The iPhone works flawlessly with this, playlist keep order from playlist instead of album order.

Originally Posted by zerock

same behaviour on new iPod classic firmware. It doesn't follow playlist track order. it just plays them by album from a-z.

And well as said before. The iPhone works flawlessly with this, playlist keep order from playlist instead of album order.

Just to confirm, there is a difference in operation between the operation of your iPhone and your Classic?

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Just to confirm, there is a difference in operation between the operation of your iPhone and your Classic?

yes, the classic doesnt respect playlists tracks order. Which I find odd. the iPhone works as expected.

Originally Posted by zerock

yes, the classic doesnt respect playlists tracks order. Which I find odd. the iPhone works as expected.

Thanks for the info, we'll give it a spin on our bench to see if we get the same results.

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Thanks for the info, we'll give it a spin on our bench to see if we get the same results.

Just saw this issue today, as I was about to order a DICE kit for my iPod classic. If this is indeed a bug, is there a way for the consumer to upgrade the firmware on the kit? Or are you pretty much stuck with the problem? Thanks.

Originally Posted by Ruhnie

Just saw this issue today, as I was about to order a DICE kit for my iPod classic. If this is indeed a bug, is there a way for the consumer to upgrade the firmware on the kit? Or are you pretty much stuck with the problem? Thanks.

On on an end-user basis, the module will need to be sent in to DICE for firmware updates.

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

We will not offer the ashtray mounts for a few reasons. The dock might be ok for a desk or surface - but we are talking about a moving vehicle. This places a lot of unnecessary wear on the dock connector of the iPod and can damage it within time. Vehicles with stiff suspension make the problem worse.

Since the iPod controls are now locked with SILVERLINE - there is no reason for this type of device, especially at the same cost of the DICE kit itself.

Navigation of the iPod would be virtually impossible in this position. A very serious point to bring up is if the vehicle was involved in an head-on collision and the iPod was projected in front of a deploying airbag, since the iPod isn't secured properly. Here's what I recommend instead:

DICE iPod Cradle w/ Video Support
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...roducts_id=269

You'll notice the iPod is supported by the bottom and the sides. This is necessary in a moving vehicle. I think the concept is very neat, just not practical without something securing the iPod safely. To be perfectly fair, I have not heard a case of this happening yet. I certainly wouldn't want to be the first.

The difference between the trunk vs radio interface kits are explained in the first post, the radio kits offer a simplified installation that can be performed in about 20 minutes, compared to the trunk interface kits.

Tom where does the ipod video cradle mount? can you post pics or email them to me? I am interested in the radio connect model. Is it possible to send the install directions so that I can decide if this is something I am capable of doing? thanks,

Originally Posted by jboucher

Tom where does the ipod video cradle mount? can you post pics or email them to me? I am interested in the radio connect model. Is it possible to send the install directions so that I can decide if this is something I am capable of doing? thanks,

You can use any of the ProClip mounting devices we offer here: http://www.europeanautosource.com/in...th=42_93_94_97

Email me directly for a set of instructions and I'll get you set up.

A question for Tom: About a year and a half ago I bought the dice kit for my 2000 528i with dsp. I also got the dsp adapter and the cradle. Recently, I purchased an Iphone. Althought the current dice plays the track on my iphone, does the silver line ad more options for the iphone? What do I have to purchase in order to upgrade to the silverline? Can I use the same cables and dsp adapter? Is there another adapter for the cradle for the iphone? What about bluetooth? or how do I get the cell phone to play through my speakers? Sorry about all the ??'s Thanks, Jeff

Originally Posted by jglover

A question for Tom: About a year and a half ago I bought the dice kit for my 2000 528i with dsp. I also got the dsp adapter and the cradle. Recently, I purchased an Iphone. Althought the current dice plays the track on my iphone, does the silver line ad more options for the iphone? What do I have to purchase in order to upgrade to the silverline? Can I use the same cables and dsp adapter? Is there another adapter for the cradle for the iphone? What about bluetooth? or how do I get the cell phone to play through my speakers? Sorry about all the ??'s Thanks, Jeff

No other options other than muting when a call comes in. Neither of the DICE offer telephone support.

Tom/All,


My DICE Silverline arrived from EAS this week. I can't wait to get this installed but I have a few questions.

1) I purchased the model with the Radio Interface. The manual that came with the kit shows a trunk install. Am I missing something? The reason I bought the radio interface version was to avoid a trunk install. Perhaps I got the wrong manual or maybe they don't have a manual for the radio install?

2) The manual states that the car config dip switches should be Off/Off for "late model Business CD" radio systems. I have a 2004 325xi with the Business CD. Can I assume that 2004 is a "late model" and leave the dip switches in the off/off position?

3) It appears the manual is incorrect as it pertains to the iPod config switches. It says "It is recommended that you leave these switches in the default (OFF/ON) position." However, the default position (as my model was shipped) is OFF/OFF. If I want the Locked/DICE mode, should I leave the default OR should the switches be Off/ON? Earlier in this thread scottgbp posed the same question. Tom's response was "the manual is correct". I can't see how the manual can be correct since the unit is shipped off/off and that configuration is not mentioned as a supported configuration.

4) I still have to choose which iPod to purchase. I noticed some discussion on bugs related to the shuffle feature for some iPod models. Any recommendation on which iPod is the least buggy? Anyone know which iPod was used most during product testing?

5) Originally I was planning on installing to the sunglass holder. Now that I know the iPod itself will be locked, I am debating installing to the glove box instead so it will be out of the way. Any opinions on the pros/cons?


Thanks!

Originally Posted by NorthStar7

Tom/All,


My DICE Silverline arrived from EAS this week. I can't wait to get this installed but I have a few questions.

1) I purchased the model with the Radio Interface. The manual that came with the kit shows a trunk install. Am I missing something? The reason I bought the radio interface version was to avoid a trunk install. Perhaps I got the wrong manual or maybe they don't have a manual for the radio install?

Please email me with your full name and I'll get you a set of instructions sent.

Originally Posted by NorthStar7

2) The manual states that the car config dip switches should be Off/Off for "late model Business CD" radio systems. I have a 2004 325xi with the Business CD. Can I assume that 2004 is a "late model" and leave the dip switches in the off/off position?

We leave the switches all in the UP position for best results.

Originally Posted by NorthStar7

3) It appears the manual is incorrect as it pertains to the iPod config switches. It says "It is recommended that you leave these switches in the default (OFF/ON) position." However, the default position (as my model was shipped) is OFF/OFF. If I want the Locked/DICE mode, should I leave the default OR should the switches be Off/ON? Earlier in this thread scottgbp posed the same question. Tom's response was "the manual is correct". I can't see how the manual can be correct since the unit is shipped off/off and that configuration is not mentioned as a supported configuration.

The older instructions do have an error in them, this has been corrected. The kits remain unchanged in the process.

Originally Posted by NorthStar7

4) I still have to choose which iPod to purchase. I noticed some discussion on bugs related to the shuffle feature for some iPod models. Any recommendation on which iPod is the least buggy? Anyone know which iPod was used most during product testing?

I recommend getting the largest iPod you can afford. All iPod will exhibit the same features when connected to the DICE.

Originally Posted by NorthStar7

5) Originally I was planning on installing to the sunglass holder. Now that I know the iPod itself will be locked, I am debating installing to the glove box instead so it will be out of the way. Any opinions on the pros/cons?

Thanks!

None to report. iPod placement is not important since all control is performed by the radio and/or steering wheel controls. Simply place it in a convenient place for access when needed to sync music.

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Thanks for the info, we'll give it a spin on our bench to see if we get the same results.

so how did the trial go?

Originally Posted by zerock

so how did the trial go?

Same results and DICE is aware of the issue, we're awaiting a firmware solution in the meantime.

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Same results and DICE is aware of the issue, we're awaiting a firmware solution in the meantime.

Awesome let me know when that happens. Thanks

Hi Tom,

received my DICE Silverline today and everything fine after a few errors on my account. Just a few questions. The 15 character Text Display won't work, I can select it but it won't work. Also how can I select the Shuffle function on the 16:9 Navigation screen? And in what mode (Song, Artist, Album) will the shuffle mode work?

Any idea's?

Originally Posted by frankpaul1

Hi Tom,

received my DICE Silverline today and everything fine after a few errors on my account. Just a few questions. The 15 character Text Display won't work, I can select it but it won't work. Also how can I select the Shuffle function on the 16:9 Navigation screen? And in what mode (Song, Artist, Album) will the shuffle mode work?

Any idea's?

Small font display is very hard to read in a moving vehicle, we prefer the CD6/TRACK6 setting instead. This is limited to 8 characters and scrolls on a right to left formation.