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Old 01-11-2008, 02:31 PM
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"Donut" spare tires

For those looking to get a temporary spare after switching over to non-RFTs, check the local salvage yards for a donut spare from an X3 or some other BMW (the X3 rim is 17" and the correct PCD for the E90). I know the X3 spares will work on the E90 328i. Specifically the lug bolt length is OK and no wheel spacers are required. The tire diameter is too large however, and using it could play havoc with the sensors. The temporary tire that will match up with the stock 16" wheels is 125/80 R17. A 135/80 R17 seemed to be a good size for the 335i w/ sport package.

Many thanks to Paul at Radial Tire in Silver Spring, Maryland for you help!
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Old 01-11-2008, 02:33 PM
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Old 01-11-2008, 03:33 PM
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Can I ask why anyone would carry a spare anyway? Isn't that what the BMW Roadside Assistance program is for?

You're going to sit there, on your knees, in the dark, in traffic, fumbling for 45 minutes to jack up and change your tire when all you need to do is hit one button on your cellphone?

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Old 01-11-2008, 03:37 PM
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Can I ask why anyone would carry a spare anyway? Isn't that what the BMW Roadside Assistance program is for?

You're going to sit there, on your knees, in the dark, in traffic, fumbling for 45 minutes to jack up and change your tire when all you need to do is hit one button on your cellphone?

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Kanye West's "Good Life" gets old after a couple hours of waiting.
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Old 01-11-2008, 03:51 PM
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i agree. would like to have a spare when i replace the run flats..

i already have a compressor and plug kit in the trunk. wouldn't mind having a spare in there too.

who wants to wait for BMW and where are they going to take you? to the nearest dealer for a new run flat $500 tire?? and, what if it is saturday night, no one at the dealer till monday morning??
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Old 01-11-2008, 06:21 PM
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Kanye West's "Good Life" gets old after a couple hours of waiting.
Hmm. Never thought about that. Will a can of that spray stuff suffice? I have non runflat winter tires on now and I intend to get non runflat summer tires in a few months. With the 'Vert, I've got no room for a donut in the trunk.

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Old 01-11-2008, 06:48 PM
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Hmm. Never thought about that. Will a can of that spray stuff suffice? I have non runflat winter tires on now and I intend to get non runflat summer tires in a few months. With the 'Vert, I've got no room for a donut in the trunk.

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if the sidewall gets cut from a pothole, sealant wont work.
with non rfts and no spare, the best they can do is tow the car to a bmw dealer.
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sounds like the spare donut isn't such a bad idea.

how many of you here actually have one??

towing the bimmer dealer isn't always going to help, again, what if it is saturday night?? two days till someone is there then they rape your for $500 for a bridgestone???
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by the number of circles on the spare wheel I have a feeling the below might be the spare wheel.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...18&hg=36&fg=10
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by the number of circles on the spare wheel I have a feeling the below might be the spare wheel.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...18&hg=36&fg=10

now where does one find a tire?
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How 'bout for an E92 with ZSP?

How about a little sumthin' for the 18s on the E92 with Sport?
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Old 01-11-2008, 10:11 PM
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So this doesn't add much to the thread, but I've gotta say I can't imagine not running w/ a spare. I was driving late at night, no cell reception, in the mountains and a rock from out of nowhere sliced the inside sidewall of my left rear tire in 5, no joke, 5 places. It doesn't take 45 mins to change a tire. It took me.....
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...... 7 minutes. That's time to get out my floodlight, jack the car, replace the tire, lower the car, put the cut tire in the spare tire place, and drive away.

I would have been there all night waiting for AAA. If it takes 1.5hrs for them to send a guy to jump a battery in a metro area, how long would it have taken a truck to get to me in the middle of nowhere at 4am? I called CHP to send someone to watch the area (no lights, car in the area, not a good combo for someone looking for money), they said their closest unit was 2.5 hours away!!!

Don't run without spares guys!
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Old 01-11-2008, 10:37 PM
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Yeah, but you cheated Chad. You have the e36 frame and jack. The e90 jack is nothing like that.

I took my assistnat to lunch for her birthday last year, found a flat when we got to the car, asked her to go tell the place we would be a little late, and had it changed before she got back from making the call. Great stuff.

But hey, with run flats we can drive 55 mph for 30 miles or something witha fully loaded car. No need for a spare!
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Lol, well, I was on a hill so that makes life a little harder with that stupid peg-leg jack, but yeah it is awesome for doing things quickly.

BTW, the only reason I was able to call CHP was cause I drove about 1/2 mile @ 4MPH to a semi main road, with spotty coverage. My call dropped out with them once. Just a little correction to my above story.
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now where does one find a tire?
it appears to be another bmw part number
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LeatherZ sells a kit for this application (no affiliation, just giving pertinent info)
http://leatherz.com/Merchant2/mercha...etyConvenience
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LeatherZ sells a kit for this application (no affiliation, just giving pertinent info)
http://leatherz.com/Merchant2/mercha...etyConvenience
Does anyone have this kit? Is it secured in the trunk in any way or does the spare shift around as you drive?
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I have RFT winter tires on 17" rims and when my OEM 18" summer RFT tires wear out I will run with non-RFT and put one of the winter wheels in the trunk, along with the BMW E90 jack kit. My golf clubs just fit with that in there.....

The $600 savings from buying a set of non-RFT summer ties pays for the full set of (admitedly inmexpensive) winter rims!

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Old 01-12-2008, 09:06 AM
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now where does one find a tire?
Your local tire dealer should carry the Continental spares. If not, contact Tire Rack or call Radial Tire and they'll order/ship one. Their number is 301-585-2740. I don't have any affiliation with them, but have been going to them for many years for tires. Obviously I highly recommend them for sales and advice. Especially if you are in the DC metro area, I'd suggest going to Radial Tire.
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Does anyone have this kit? Is it secured in the trunk in any way or does the spare shift around as you drive?

Yes, this looks like a must have. My question too is the same as above, I suppose there must be a way to secure it somehow in the trunk or tie it down so it doesn't slide around like crazy?
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But hey, with run flats we can drive 55 mph for 30 miles or something witha fully loaded car. No need for a spare!
These are run FLAT tires, not run SLICED tires. The RFT are great if you get a nail or screw but if you slice the sidewall up do to curb or rock damage then you are SOL. I can see an emergency spare for long trips, but I wouldn't use one for around town.

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These are run FLAT tires, not run SLICED tires. The RFT are great if you get a nail or screw but if you slice the sidewall up do to curb or rock damage then you are SOL. I can see an emergency spare for long trips, but I wouldn't use one for around town.

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Why not for around town? You said it yourself, there is no gaurantee that you will be able to drive if it is a sidewall problem or blowout of somekind. So, why not spend $200 or so and have piece of mind knowing that if it is late or in the middle of nowhere or if you just aren't able to sit for 2 hours and wait for a tow truck, to come get you and tell you it has to be towed to a BMW dealer, which may not even be open until Monday morning? Say its saturday night? Then what, no car for 2 days? Then pay $500 for a new run flat from BMW? I'm thinking this is a must and so what you lose a little trunk space for a small donut tire, it's worth the price to not take a chance on being stuck. I mean I didn't buy this to have room to haul stuff, I would have gotten another suv for that, lol.
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Why not for around town? You said it yourself, there is no gaurantee that you will be able to drive if it is a sidewall problem or blowout of somekind. So, why not spend $200 or so and have piece of mind knowing that if it is late or in the middle of nowhere or if you just aren't able to sit for 2 hours and wait for a tow truck, to come get you and tell you it has to be towed to a BMW dealer, which may not even be open until Monday morning? Say its saturday night? Then what, no car for 2 days? Then pay $500 for a new run flat from BMW? I'm thinking this is a must and so what you lose a little trunk space for a small donut tire, it's worth the price to not take a chance on being stuck. I mean I didn't buy this to have room to haul stuff, I would have gotten another suv for that, lol.
You are right that there is peace of mind with a true spare but you lose trunk space. I have three cars so if one is waiting for a tire, I am not stranded. My wife picked up a nail in her car last week and the Lexus service took 45 minutes. So, I am not really stranded for two hours. In addition, I have Conti RFT and they are $120 at Tire Rack.

It really is a balancing act - trunk space versus peace of mind knowing you aren't stranded and a trip lost if you have a ruined tire.

I don't even own a spare but I am thinking about one of these donuts.
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really, Tire Rack has RFT's for $120??? That changes some things lol.. but still, if you get a flat and have to order a new tire, doesn't that take a couple of days to get here?
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I just went to tire rack and couldn't find any continental rft's for any price. Maybe its operator error but I couldn't find them.
Are you sure about that? Perhaps you could post a link? I'd like to see that as it is a lot better than the $250/tire for the bridgestone oem's they have.
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