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Old 04-11-2003, 08:17 PM
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Smile Help - 330i (non-sport package) Handling Needs Improvement...

TIA. Noticed that the 330i came with a "sport suspension" so I leased a 330i (2003) without the sport package. The car does not handle as well (turn-in, body lean) as a 2000 328i with sport package that I just tried.

Should I change the tires? The car came with not so great Contis - 205/50/17s - "grand touring" as per Tirerack website. I have 225/45/17s (S-02s) on separate rims in the garage - would these fit? Or are there good all-seasons that might work --- by experience, driving S-02s in the snow is not safe .

Will changing the tires do the trick or am I missing something else - ride height, different sway bars, or something?

Much appreciated!
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Old 04-11-2003, 08:53 PM
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The only difference suspension wise, to a non sport or a sport 330i, is the tires and wheels.

Yes, putting some nice summer tires will do wonders toward making the car feel better compared to those soft as butter 50's profile all season radials that it comes with from the factory.
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Old 04-11-2003, 09:33 PM
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i finally got rid of the winter snows and put on the summer tires...and wow...what a difference. i thought i was driving a different car. mind you i went from 195s to the staggered setup of 225F and 245R. gained 5cm in tread width at the rears and not to mention losing the high sidewall with low profile 40 sidewalls.

all i'm saying...hopefully the tire change will do the trick for you.
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Old 04-11-2003, 10:28 PM
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sport seats might have helped
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Old 04-12-2003, 01:02 AM
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sport seats might have helped
mm
don't think the seats actually help the handling...
but it will probably look and feel better
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Old 04-12-2003, 07:19 AM
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After thinking more on this thread.

I'd go for the tires in the garage, they'll fit on your stock rims. As for the body roll, the newer tires will lessen it somewhat.

Even with UUC aftermarket sways, the car still has quite a bit of roll. See pic below. (Non sport package, but sport suspension, with 225 45 17's on stock 7inch rims.)

If you're looking to make the ride a bit firmer and take advantage of the larger sways, you'll need to step up to an aftermarket spring/shock or coilover setup.

I'm personally thinking about a Biltstein PSS9 setup. ($1100)

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Old 04-12-2003, 08:11 AM
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I've driven my car on 4 different tyopes of tires and each one makes the car feel different . . .

You will find a HUGE difference with the entire feel of your car when you switch tires . . .
I had the all-season 205/50/17's for winter use and as far as a handling tire, this is not it. The steering feels numb, the turn-in isn't nearly as responsive, overall handing is mushy.

Put on a set of Performance tires and you will think you just traded your car in for a totally different car.

Luckily you've got the sports suspension already, now all you need is more aggressive rubber and I would definitely go wider also.

When you have a little more of an idea of what you want to do, post back here and you will get a lot of advice on the possiblities.

One idea might be to pick up a set of the M68's for under $1000.
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Old 04-12-2003, 12:18 PM
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Thanks for the great responses. I'm leaning towards trying the S-02s: I'll check the garage and see how much life they have left in them. If I'm real lucky the rims will fit (17x8 BBS RCs).

JT:

Your car looks like ours! Steel blue with what look like the same rims.

AF:

What are the M68s - and what size? Thanks!
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Old 04-12-2003, 12:54 PM
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Yup, compared ride height, spring and front strut part number on a friends 330i SP.

Same.
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Old 04-12-2003, 01:28 PM
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I just swapped my snow tires 205/55/16 (Pirelli Winter 210s) for the summer tires 225/45/17 (Pirelli PZero Assimetrico).

I got in the car, and thought I was driving a different car. Way more responsive, stiffer steering, less slack in the car when accelerating. More precise steering.

I had frankly not noticed the drop in performance when I put the snows on, probably because I had been driving gingerly for a few weeks given the cold temperature, but today -- such a difference.
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