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BMW 5-Series E60 Sedan was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E61 wagon followed shortly there after. The E60/E61 5 series is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 04-02-2015, 04:49 PM
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N54 injectors needing replacemnet

Hello all

I need to replace my injectors on my 2008 535i. I had them clean about 6 months ago and it helped quite a bit, but now the problem is coming back(rough start up, ses light, etc). I had it diagnosed and it is the injectors. I removed and reinstalled last time so I am comfortable performing it again and I also know they will need to be programmed.

My question is does anybody know where to get the newest indexed ones, I believe it is index 12, for cheaper than $1450.00? Ecs tuning charges around $1450 shipped, I have searched and people say they have found them for under $200 each, but I can't seem to find an actual reference to a particular website or dealer.

I am also considering replacing my fuel filter and cleaning my fuel lines as well, any other suggestions?

If anyone can help point me in the right direction I would appreciate it greatly!

Thanks!!!
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Old 04-02-2015, 10:06 PM
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ECS tuning is usually the best bet. Possibly try Pelican Parts too which is located down in SoCal too iirc. As for the fuel filter and lines you shouldn't need to do any cleaning unless you've been using non-top tier fuel. If concerned start off with a bottle of tehron.
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Old 04-03-2015, 02:52 AM
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Rock Auto has them for $130 each and they are OEM
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Old 04-03-2015, 04:23 PM
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I use chevron 91 octane and add a bottle of techron injector cleaner almost every 4 tanks.

When I had the injectors cleaned the fuel lines looked pretty gunky
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Old 04-03-2015, 04:32 PM
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Rock auto has
STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS FJ1050

Are these oem?
They don't say anywhere that they are index 11 or 12???
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Old 04-03-2015, 08:13 PM
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I changed all 06 with the newest part number from eBay for 650 someone had bought them and didn't need them anymore.
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Old 04-03-2015, 09:14 PM
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Awesome! Did he by chance but two sets?
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Old 04-03-2015, 10:38 PM
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I just searched but couldn't find the purchase history as its been over 3 months, my friend have a repair shop and he could order for me from the dealer for 175$ for the latest part. You should be easily able to find something in this range. The one rock auto has it's not oem. I checked those before buying.

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Hello, this is my first post here but I wanted to share so other don't get gouged on price just went through all of this last night the injectors from Rock auto are 100% Italy made bmw injectors index 12 I had them fed-ex sent to me over night to the tune of 831 for all 6 I had 1 injector on its way out that was cyl # 6 but decided to have them all pulled since I have a guy who can code them with auto logic and pull them and install new ones for real cheap so yea don't drop 1400 rock auto sells them for 131 each as of today price seems to have increased since the last year or so . My buddy showed me injector 6 I had a lot of carbon buildup when I had the manifold off and did the wall nut blasting so nit sure if something got into the injector or they just became fried from use and heat ?.. these injectors are very complicated inside them so who knows it sucks we have to pay for this as its not cheap at all injectors should not fail on a car with 62k on them mine went in for the recall at 19k but the injectors that were in my car from day 1 were not to be pulled according to the bmw service bulletin they didn't fall under the faulty pat numbers so im sure when it went in for the recall what ever tech had it saw the part numbers and didn't pull them this recall was specific to I think 2 or 3 part numbers and index so if your car did not have the specified injectors they would not have pulled them out by bmw my build date is late 2008. I tried to get bmw NA to cover it but they pretty much told me to take a hike it was not covered just hpfp is covered and wate gate on the turbos . so now in this last week I dropped 890 on new bmw oem coils, plugs and walnut blast + 833 for the injectors and +200 for my boy to install and code =1921 at 62k for the car to run great not sure how I feel about that as that's the same price for a 4 or 5 day all inclusive stay in the Caribbean for me and my wife or better yet the 19 inch beyern mesh wheels I have wanted for 2 years ? car reminds me of a hot stripper .. a fun ride , sexy as hell but full of issues at least she doesn't talk .. good luck to you rock auto is good like that on these injectors esc tuneing is like 1400 now for all 6 ..ouch don't neglect the walnut blast on the intake valves make the car run soooo much better

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Old 04-08-2015, 10:26 AM
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Hello, this is my first post here but I wanted to share so other don't get gouged on price just went through all of this last night the injectors from Rock auto are 100% Italy made bmw injectors index 12 I had them fed-ex sent to me over night to the tune of 831 for all 6 I had 1 injector on its way out that was cyl # 6 but decided to have them all pulled since I have a guy who can code them with auto logic and pull them and install new ones for real cheap so yea don't drop 1400 rock auto sells them for 131 each as of today price seems to have increased since the last year or so . My buddy showed me injector 6 I had a lot of carbon buildup when I had the manifold off and did the wall nut blasting so nit sure if something got into the injector or they just became fried from use and heat ?.. these injectors are very complicated inside them so who knows it sucks we have to pay for this as its not cheap at all injectors should not fail on a car with 62k on them mine went in for the recall at 19k but the injectors that were in my car from day 1 were not to be pulled according to the bmw service bulletin they didn't fall under the faulty pat numbers so im sure when it went in for the recall what ever tech had it saw the part numbers and didn't pull them this recall was specific to I think 2 or 3 part numbers and index so if your car did not have the specified injectors they would not have pulled them out by bmw my build date is late 2008. I tried to get bmw NA to cover it but they pretty much told me to take a hike it was not covered just hpfp is covered and wate gate on the turbos . so now in this last week I dropped 890 on new bmw oem coils, plugs and walnut blast + 833 for the injectors and +200 for my boy to install and code =1921 at 62k for the car to run great not sure how I feel about that as that's the same price for a 4 or 5 day all inclusive stay in the Caribbean for me and my wife or better yet the 19 inch beyern mesh wheels I have wanted for 2 years ? car reminds me of a hot stripper .. a fun ride , sexy as hell but full of issues at least she doesn't talk .. good luck to you rock auto is good like that on these injectors esc tuneing is like 1400 now for all 6 ..ouch don't neglect the walnut blast on the intake valves make the car run soooo much better
MD, respectfully, most people here don't have the patience to decode the grammar, run on sentences and difficulty in comprehending the above.

Suggest you rewrite with a short pointed question and you'll get more responses.

Your choice, of course.
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$217 - http://www.trademotion.com/parts/ind...xt=13538616079
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$203 - http://bmwparts4u.com/parts/index.cf...xt=13538616079
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$206 - http://tomkinsonbmwparts.com/parts/i...xt=13538616079

Edit: I posted all of these thinking you needed only 4 for some reason. I guess it's still better than $1400, but not much. Rock Auto does seem to be cheaper ($131), but I don't think they're OE/OES.

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Old 04-08-2015, 01:30 PM
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I found a guy on eBay with oem index 12 injectors for $180

I think I'm going to replace 3 since only 3 tested bad last time. Then if still faulty I'll do the others. It's only about a two hour job....
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if they are index 12 and in runonsentence's car, can you even get non OEM index 12? do non oem injectors even exist for this car?
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Lots of supply contracts give the buyer, BMW, exclusive rights to the part for a period of time. OEM's are free to sell to anybody, including Standard Motor Parts afterwards. It's very hard to believe that anyone but the OEM has the finances to tool up and make such a part. Although, with the failure rate so high, this part might be the exception.


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......can you even get non OEM index 12? do non oem injectors even exist for this car?
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BMW never made those injectors. BMW and all others outsource a huge amount of components.
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FJ1050 from rock is OEM. Even has the BMW roundel and Standard is THE OEM supplier for these injectors.
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FJ1050 from rock is OEM. Even has the BMW roundel and Standard is THE OEM supplier for these injectors.
No they are not OEM I contacted RockAuto couple of months ago and they responded back and told me they are aftermarket parts, but there are lots of people that got these Injectors from RockAuto and most were Index12 and some Index11 and nobody complained no negative reviews from these members on other forums.
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No they are not OEM I contacted RockAuto couple of months ago and they responded back and told me they are aftermarket parts, but there are lots of people that got these Injectors from RockAuto and most were Index12 and some Index11 and nobody complained no negative reviews from these members on other forums.
You are 100% wrong. They are made by the SAME factory that makes the ones that come from BMW. They have the same part number and same BMW laser roundel. They are the Original Parts. Now RockAuto is not a BMW dealer and therefore CANNOT say they are OEM. In fact, Rockauto by definition only sells aftermarket as they are not a dealer for any car manufacture, therefore they do not have the license to resell OEM parts. These injectors are 100% IDENTICAL to the ones from the dealer. As you can imagine car manufactures do not make all the parts, they have vendors. These vendors often sell the same parts as "aftermarket" to aftermarket distributors. It's very common that there may be multiple manufactures for the same part, some may have been the original supplier while others are not, sometimes it's difficult to figure it out. Not in this case, standard is the only company for these injectors, made in the same facility in Italy and I called them awhile back and they CONFIRMED they are the OE supplier to BMW for these injectors, thus these are OE parts.

Just like Zimmerman rotors are often (but not always) OE parts for BMWs and the list goes on. It's tough sometimes to isolate who was the OE supplier because most contracts prohibit OE suppliers of advertising that they make the OE parts for said car manufacture.

Often people make a mistake and they think they got OE part for their car but in fact that supplier may have never made that part for that car manufacture. For example, Auto 7 is often the OE supplier for Hyundai's, they produce a lot of O2 sensors but they are NOT OE supplier of O2 sensors for Hyundai. Most O2 sensors on Hyundai come from NGK. Same with GM, a lot of people assume if it's Acdelco it's OE but often it can be delphi that had the contract for that part and acdelco was actually aftermarket. I've seen BMW brake calipers from rock, I forget which brand delivered and they had the BMW logo backfilled with JBweld because when they sell outside of BMW channels they cannot have that logo on there.

Most car forums are filled with crap, speculations, hearsay and something they heard from very *educated* dealer. I've had the pleasure of reading many of these for many reasons and I can assure you, most of the crap you read here is BS. I also found that the more luxurious the car, the more ludicrous information is found on the forums. People are afraid to touch the car because "it's a 70k" and therefore it must be so much different complicated and requires the certified 25 year old kid from the dealer to change the blinker fluid. It's all nonsense. The larger portion of these dealers perform jobs at the same crappy quality as the gas station down the block. That is why I do all my own work. People on these forums stress out about torque specs and proper sealants, curing times but like most of the mechanics at the dealer do not even use a torque wrench and hardly ever apply proper sealants.
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No they are not OEM I contacted RockAuto couple of months ago and they responded back and told me they are aftermarket parts, but there are lots of people that got these Injectors from RockAuto and most were Index12 and some Index11 and nobody complained no negative reviews from these members on other forums.
I've seen like 25 people post they got OEM index 12, do you have actual proof they are shipping non oem and not index 12?

If not, stop spreading crappy rumors with no substantiated truth
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Email RockAuto and they will send you the INFO thats what i did, couple of the members from other forums said when they try to SCAN the BarCodes on the RockAuto Injectors they would NOT scan, and the OEM injectors are scannable without a problem, but they were able to code them in via INPA without any issues. Overall all the members that got RockAuto Injectors are happy with them, one member stated he got 15k on them and no issues whatsoever.
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what do you mean scan the barcode, scan with what?
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PS injector coding does not do anything to the injector, it's coding the ecu what injector is installed so the ecu can adjust the duty cycle
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what do you mean scan the barcode, scan with what?
They have this little QR code looking code on the injectors which is laser engraved. I think it contains the info that is usually inserted into INPA. I'm not sure the info about one scanning and the other doesn't is accurate. Sounds like bs to me. I mean SMP is the OE supplier for these injectors, unless they encode the ones they ship in the aftermarket packaging with a different sequence I don't see a single reason for it not to scan. I'll have 6 of these on order, I'll try to scan them when they arrive later this week and compare to some old -07 I have.

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