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BMW 5-Series E60 Sedan was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E61 wagon followed shortly there after. The E60/E61 5 series is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 04-24-2017, 12:11 PM
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Oil Pan Gasket/Front Subframe Questions

Hello! I'm gearing up to replace the oil pan gasket on my 2010 535i and have a couple things I would like to run by you all.

When dropping the front subframe does the active sway bar create any unique issues? Does it need to be disconnected or can it remain in place while lowering the subframe.

Also I'm planning on replacing the front passenger side wheel bearing which should be no problem if I release the top of the strut on that side. With one strut detached is it necessary to detach the other strut or will there be enough space to get the oil pan out?

Car is RWD.

Thanks, any and all input or advice is appreciated.
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Old 04-25-2017, 04:31 AM
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I have done a few sump gaskets on 3 series I own and also have had a look on my E60 540i, I would treat it the same as my E46

The active sway bar you would need to lower and it can stay hanging down from the ball joints you would just need to disconnect the connected for the wiring
Once you lower the sub frame you will have enough room

If your detaching your strut just support it so you don't get to much pulling on one side I can't see this been a problem. The hardest part is getting it back up 4 would hands would have been good but it's very possible by your self

You will need to to disconnect the steering rack so turn the key pos 1 so you can access the bed of the bolt and turn key off so ignition lock is on

The auto trans pipes on my bmws run close to the sump pan and I now remove the mounting bolts from both ends to really get them out of the way, makes it easier installing the pan again.
The other thing I done also was use about 6 small zip ties loose to hold the pan gasket on and when I got 4 bolts i then removed them, this helped to keep the gasket in place




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Old 04-25-2017, 05:32 AM
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I have done a few sump gaskets on 3 series I own and also have had a look on my E60 540i, I would treat it the same as my E46

The active sway bar you would need to lower and it can stay hanging down from the ball joints you would just need to disconnect the connected for the wiring
Once you lower the sub frame you will have enough room

If your detaching your strut just support it so you don't get to much pulling on one side I can't see this been a problem. The hardest part is getting it back up 4 would hands would have been good but it's very possible by your self

You will need to to disconnect the steering rack so turn the key pos 1 so you can access the bed of the bolt and turn key off so ignition lock is on

The auto trans pipes on my bmws run close to the sump pan and I now remove the mounting bolts from both ends to really get them out of the way, makes it easier installing the pan again.
The other thing I done also was use about 6 small zip ties loose to hold the pan gasket on and when I got 4 bolts i then removed them, this helped to keep the gasket in place




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Thanks for the info. That's what I was hoping for the sway bar, it doesn't sound it will cause much trouble.

Good point on the zip ties too!
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Old 04-25-2017, 06:18 AM
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I've done this on my 550i. My issue with the active roll bar was disconnecting the pipes that are less likely to leak. Your experience might differ as the upper and lower oil pan on my v8 is huge i had to drop the subframe considerably. One of the pipes ran through the subframe and connected to another pipe that goes into the ARS valve block behind the passenger tire arch. I couldn't get the pipe to disconnect there and i feared breaking it and its about 100$ so i just disconnected the line that runs into the valve block. I had a leak from the disconnected line at the valve block that showed itself later on. I then used some teflon on the threads to seal it completely. No leaks since.
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I've done this on my 550i. My issue with the active roll bar was disconnecting the pipes that are less likely to leak. Your experience might differ as the upper and lower oil pan on my v8 is huge i had to drop the subframe considerably. One of the pipes ran through the subframe and connected to another pipe that goes into the ARS valve block behind the passenger tire arch. I couldn't get the pipe to disconnect there and i feared breaking it and its about 100$ so i just disconnected the line that runs into the valve block. I had a leak from the disconnected line at the valve block that showed itself later on. I then used some teflon on the threads to seal it completely. No leaks since.
Interesting info. At least it sounds like it's not a total road block and can be disconnected if needed. I've seen some diy's for e90's that make it look like the subframe only needs to be lowered a few inches to get enough clearance for the oil pan. I'm hoping because the 5 is a bigger car there may be some more room too.
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on my 2008 535i, I thought my oil pan gasket leaked. it turned out to be OFH gasket leaked so bad, oil ran down covering everything down below, made me thinking my oil pan gasket leaked.
Maybe you already confirm yours to be oil pan if not I'd suggest double check it. OFH gasket is a piece of cake compare to oil pan gasket.

BTW, I called half of dozen indy shops specializing BMW, and they all charge around $1200 before tax for 535i RWD. AWD would be more
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on my 2008 535i, I thought my oil pan gasket leaked. it turned out to be OFH gasket leaked so bad, oil ran down covering everything down below, made me thinking my oil pan gasket leaked.
Maybe you already confirm yours to be oil pan if not I'd suggest double check it. OFH gasket is a piece of cake compare to oil pan gasket.

BTW, I called half of dozen indy shops specializing BMW, and they all charge around $1200 before tax for 535i RWD. AWD would be more
I'll give it a solid once over before I tear into it but I've been keeping an eye on the OFH gasket based on how it can cause problems for the serpentine belt and so far it looks dry. I also had it looked at by a dealer and indy here while other things were being done and they both suspect the oil pan gasket is the source.

That's about what I was quoted by an indy mechanic here, 12-1300 plus the cost of an oil change. Ouch.
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