Welcome to Bimmerfest -- The #1 Online Community for BMW related information! Please enjoy the discussion forums below and share your experiences with the 200,000 current, new and past BMW owners. The forums are broken out by car model and into other special interest sections such as BMW European Delivery and a special forum to voice your questions to the many BMW dealers on the site to assist our members!

Please follow the links below to help get you started!

Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > X Series > X3 E83 (2004 - 2010)

X3 E83 (2004 - 2010)
Talk about the E83 BMW X3 in this forum!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-07-2013, 10:39 PM
thefys thefys is offline
Registered User
Location: Vancouver, Canada
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 31
Mein Auto: 325xi
DICE MediaBridge & DSP Adapter

Hi Guys,



We have a 2006 X3 with the Logic 7 Sound System (***UPDATE *** this is a non digital In/Out Head Unit) and a sub. (No Navigation, No CD changer, No Sirius Satellite Radio Option, prewired for Phone) It's probably the best / cleanest car stereo I've heard in a while, it's not incredibly loud, but it's a really balanced sound with detailed treble and balanced mid/lows. We bought the car used, and being a recording/mixing audio engineer for a living, I immediately noticed how great it sounded.


Anyway, I wanted to install the Dice/AudioVox Mediabridge bluetooth system in this car. I tested the Mediabridge in my 2002 325xi and it worked well.



Moving back to the X3, I can't quite understand the wiring (which is odd, as I've wired probably half a dozen recording studios thus far analog/digital/etc). I'm usually pretty okay with wiring stuff but this one has me stumped...



Near the rear amp (driver's side back panel) there are 3 coax FAKRA digital inputs hangin out in the back(and no visibility as to where they go). You can't really have 3 digital inputs without some kind of switching so I'm confused. I didn't see a 3 pin or 6 pin connector there either. *** UPDATE - the coax is prewiring for the mobile phone ONLY***





In the front there is a 3 pin and a 6 pin connector







When I hooked up the mediabridge in the front, I got everything working except audio (as expected) - which implies the DSP is needed. I have't bought it yet, but even after viewing the install videos on DSP, I don't get where the mediabridge would live and how to wire it with this setup.

***UPDATE - this is incorrect - there is no DSP needed according to BMW service techs***



Help ?



**UPDATE** Found the coax FAKRA cable under the metal part 2.5 years later ! But it's for a cell
__________________
What's a Sound Designer ?

... "someone who makes noises for a living" [Un-named software engineer at Electronic Arts]

Me :

Last edited by thefys; Yesterday at 12:40 PM.
Reply With Quote
Advertisement
  #2  
Old 09-08-2013, 07:33 AM
jdeday's Avatar
jdeday jdeday is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Selinsgrove, PA
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 514
Send a message via AIM to jdeday
Mein Auto: 2005 BMW X3 3.0
Quote:
Originally Posted by thefys View Post
Hi Guys,

We have a 2006 X3 with the Logic 7 Sound System (pretty sure it's DSP) and a sub. It's probably the best / cleanest car stereo I've heard in a while, it's not incredibly loud, but it's a really balanced sound with detailed treble and balanced mid/lows. We bought the car used and being a recording engineer for a living, I immediately noticed how great it sounded.

Anyway, I wanted to install the Dice/AudioVox Mediabridge bluetooth system in this car. I tested the Mediabridge in my 2002 325xi and it worked well.

Moving back to the X3, I can't quite understand the wiring (which is odd, as I've wired probably half a dozen recording studios thus far analog/digital/etc). I'm usually pretty okay with wiring stuff but this one has me stumped...

The rear amp has what appears to be 3 coax digital inputs (and no visibility as to where they go). You can't really have 3 digital inputs without some kind of switching so I'm confused. I didn't see a 3 pin or 6 pin connector there either.


In the front there is a 3 pin and a 6 pin connector



When I hooked up the mediabridge in the front, I got everything working except audio (as expected) - which implies the DSP is needed. I have't bought it yet, but even after viewing the install videos on DSP, I don't get where the mediabridge would live and how to wire it with this setup.

Help ?
Do you have a CD changer and/or satellite radio?
__________________
2005 X3 3.0, Mystic Blue Metallic, Sand Beige Leather Interior, Birch Grain Light Wood Trim, Steptronic Transmission, Premium Package, Heated Seats, Privacy Glass, Satellite Radio Prep, Xenon Adaptive Headlights, Heated Steering Wheel, Premium Sound, Power Folding Mirrors and NAVIGATION RETROFIT
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-08-2013, 08:13 AM
thefys thefys is offline
Registered User
Location: Vancouver, Canada
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 31
Mein Auto: 325xi
There is no CD changer and no satellite radio
__________________
What's a Sound Designer ?

... "someone who makes noises for a living" [Un-named software engineer at Electronic Arts]

Me :
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-08-2013, 08:48 AM
thefys thefys is offline
Registered User
Location: Vancouver, Canada
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 31
Mein Auto: 325xi
DICE MediaBridge & DSP Adapter

According to page 12 in the AudioVox manual

http://audiovox.diceelectronics.com/..._rev012012.pdf

The coax and 3pin must be in the front area (marked X) but I found both the 3pin and the 6 pin there! Is it possible I just didn't find the coax and it's *also* there ? That seems odd, if that's the case...

**UPDATE** Found the coax FAKRA cable under the metal part 2.5 years later ! But it's for cell phone!
__________________
What's a Sound Designer ?

... "someone who makes noises for a living" [Un-named software engineer at Electronic Arts]

Me :

Last edited by thefys; 07-30-2015 at 02:36 PM. Reason: new info
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-15-2013, 11:07 AM
jdeday's Avatar
jdeday jdeday is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Selinsgrove, PA
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 514
Send a message via AIM to jdeday
Mein Auto: 2005 BMW X3 3.0
Quote:
Originally Posted by thefys View Post
According to page 12 in the AudioVox manual

http://audiovox.diceelectronics.com/..._rev012012.pdf

The coax and 3pin must be in the front area (marked X) but I found both the 3pin and the 6 pin there! Is it possible I just didn't find the coax and it's *also* there ? That seems odd, if that's the case...
Did you purchase the DSP adapter PN: A-ACC-BMW-DSP ?
__________________
2005 X3 3.0, Mystic Blue Metallic, Sand Beige Leather Interior, Birch Grain Light Wood Trim, Steptronic Transmission, Premium Package, Heated Seats, Privacy Glass, Satellite Radio Prep, Xenon Adaptive Headlights, Heated Steering Wheel, Premium Sound, Power Folding Mirrors and NAVIGATION RETROFIT
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-15-2013, 12:49 PM
thefys thefys is offline
Registered User
Location: Vancouver, Canada
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 31
Mein Auto: 325xi
I haven't gotten the dsp adapter yet. I don't see the point in purchasing it if I can't sort out the wiring before hand.

**UPDATE** Bought the proper DSP Adaptor (Analog to digital converter. Wired it up. Still no audio
__________________
What's a Sound Designer ?

... "someone who makes noises for a living" [Un-named software engineer at Electronic Arts]

Me :

Last edited by thefys; Yesterday at 12:41 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-16-2013, 08:45 PM
jdeday's Avatar
jdeday jdeday is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Selinsgrove, PA
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 514
Send a message via AIM to jdeday
Mein Auto: 2005 BMW X3 3.0
Quote:
Originally Posted by thefys View Post
I haven't gotten the dsp adapter yet. I don't see the point in purchasing it if I can't sort out the wiring before hand.
Ok. I am thinking you don't have the correct 6 pin connector found under the center console.

1. Did you use the 3 and 6 pin connectors found under the center console carpet (under the metal bracket)?
2. The 6 pin cable must be labeled CD SDARS

Jeff
__________________
2005 X3 3.0, Mystic Blue Metallic, Sand Beige Leather Interior, Birch Grain Light Wood Trim, Steptronic Transmission, Premium Package, Heated Seats, Privacy Glass, Satellite Radio Prep, Xenon Adaptive Headlights, Heated Steering Wheel, Premium Sound, Power Folding Mirrors and NAVIGATION RETROFIT
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-16-2013, 09:00 PM
thefys thefys is offline
Registered User
Location: Vancouver, Canada
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 31
Mein Auto: 325xi
cables?

[QUOTE=jdeday;7841490]Ok. I am thinking you don't have the correct 6 pin connector found under the center console.

*** There is only one 6-pin connector in the armrest and it goes directly to the back of teh head unit - currently plugged in***


1. Did you use the 3 and 6 pin connectors found under the center console carpet (under the metal bracket)?

Yes -

2. The 6 pin cable must be labeled CD SDARS

No there was no lebelling there - the 6-pin goes directly to the back of the HU and is the only cable that is an ipnut to the head unit. there are no other cables there
__________________
What's a Sound Designer ?

... "someone who makes noises for a living" [Un-named software engineer at Electronic Arts]

Me :

Last edited by thefys; Yesterday at 12:43 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-17-2013, 07:59 AM
joylove joylove is online now
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: USA
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,446
Mein Auto: 08 e83 LCI
The first set of cables (3 FAKRA coax and a 54 pin connector) are the phone prewiring. The car is prewired for sirius (SDARDS) and CD.

The default cabling for the CDC goes to the armrest. There is a second set of identical CDC cables that go to the trunk first. Should you wish to have SDARS you would use the rear connectors for the SDARS and an additional third cable set goes to the armrest for the CDC. In that configuration it is necessary to remove the radio, locate the audio cables for the SDARS that are tabled to the loom, and switch them out for the ones that are used for the default configuration.

For your Mediabridge you can either use the CDC connectors in the armrest area since they are currently plugged into the radio, or the ones in the trunk and adjust the wiring behind the radio.

Last edited by joylove; 09-17-2013 at 07:40 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-17-2013, 07:19 PM
jdeday's Avatar
jdeday jdeday is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Selinsgrove, PA
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 514
Send a message via AIM to jdeday
Mein Auto: 2005 BMW X3 3.0
Check out these installation instructions for the CD changer. The Mediabridge is using the same connections, this may help you out.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...52288139,d.dmg
__________________
2005 X3 3.0, Mystic Blue Metallic, Sand Beige Leather Interior, Birch Grain Light Wood Trim, Steptronic Transmission, Premium Package, Heated Seats, Privacy Glass, Satellite Radio Prep, Xenon Adaptive Headlights, Heated Steering Wheel, Premium Sound, Power Folding Mirrors and NAVIGATION RETROFIT
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 09-17-2013, 09:13 PM
thefys thefys is offline
Registered User
Location: Vancouver, Canada
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 31
Mein Auto: 325xi
Super helpful thank you
Pretinent images below for anyone else who needs a quick look






*** UPDATE*** the CDC (CD Changer) harness in my case only has two connectors. The 3 pin (power) and the 6 pin (analog in to the HU)
__________________
What's a Sound Designer ?

... "someone who makes noises for a living" [Un-named software engineer at Electronic Arts]

Me :

Last edited by thefys; Yesterday at 12:45 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 09-20-2013, 02:53 PM
jdeday's Avatar
jdeday jdeday is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Selinsgrove, PA
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 514
Send a message via AIM to jdeday
Mein Auto: 2005 BMW X3 3.0
DICE MediaBridge & DSP Adapter

How did you make out with the onstall?


Sent from BimmerApp mobile app
__________________
2005 X3 3.0, Mystic Blue Metallic, Sand Beige Leather Interior, Birch Grain Light Wood Trim, Steptronic Transmission, Premium Package, Heated Seats, Privacy Glass, Satellite Radio Prep, Xenon Adaptive Headlights, Heated Steering Wheel, Premium Sound, Power Folding Mirrors and NAVIGATION RETROFIT
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 04-27-2014, 02:22 PM
VE2ZYC VE2ZYC is offline
Registered User
Location: Sherbrooke Quebec
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 5
Mein Auto: E39 M5
"Thefys" I have those same exact connectors at the exact same places and I also have the exact same no sound problem. Looking to those cd changer installation guide didn't help me. How did you solved the problem?
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 04-28-2014, 11:55 PM
joylove joylove is online now
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: USA
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,446
Mein Auto: 08 e83 LCI
Step one, ignore the phone connections you found.

Step two, try to find out if the audio for the CD changer is routed to the trunk or the armrest. The answer in the back of the book is that it's in the armrest.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 04-29-2014, 06:01 AM
VE2ZYC VE2ZYC is offline
Registered User
Location: Sherbrooke Quebec
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 5
Mein Auto: E39 M5
In the armrest, I only found a 3 pins and a 6 pins connectors, and with those 2, I can see the songs names on the radio but no sound. In the trunk close to the amplifier, there is no 3 pins or 6 pins connectors at all.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 04-29-2014, 08:48 AM
joylove joylove is online now
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: USA
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,446
Mein Auto: 08 e83 LCI
Ok so the next think to do is have a look at the back of the radio to see if there has been some modifications to the wiring and the CDC audio pins are hanging loose.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 04-29-2014, 09:29 AM
VE2ZYC VE2ZYC is offline
Registered User
Location: Sherbrooke Quebec
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 5
Mein Auto: E39 M5
Already looked. No mods have been made in the back of the radio. The 12pins white connector is plugged in and there is no other 12 pins (black or white) unplugged there. I'm thinking that it's maybe about this white 12pins pinout. Do somebody have information about this?
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 04-29-2014, 06:34 PM
joylove joylove is online now
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: USA
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,446
Mein Auto: 08 e83 LCI
Here's the pinout.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 06-01-2014, 06:33 PM
jdeday's Avatar
jdeday jdeday is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Selinsgrove, PA
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 514
Send a message via AIM to jdeday
Mein Auto: 2005 BMW X3 3.0
Quote:
Originally Posted by VE2ZYC View Post
In the armrest, I only found a 3 pins and a 6 pins connectors, and with those 2, I can see the songs names on the radio but no sound. In the trunk close to the amplifier, there is no 3 pins or 6 pins connectors at all.
Do you have DSP? If so there should be a coax connector in the center arm rest.

Jeff
__________________
2005 X3 3.0, Mystic Blue Metallic, Sand Beige Leather Interior, Birch Grain Light Wood Trim, Steptronic Transmission, Premium Package, Heated Seats, Privacy Glass, Satellite Radio Prep, Xenon Adaptive Headlights, Heated Steering Wheel, Premium Sound, Power Folding Mirrors and NAVIGATION RETROFIT
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 06-02-2014, 04:47 AM
VE2ZYC VE2ZYC is offline
Registered User
Location: Sherbrooke Quebec
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 5
Mein Auto: E39 M5
There is realy no coax at all. I'm guessing a wrong wirering pinout, so i'll try to trick it to see.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 06-02-2014, 08:55 AM
joylove joylove is online now
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: USA
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,446
Mein Auto: 08 e83 LCI
Can someone remind me what's going on in here? I think all we are looking for is the correct 6 pin analogue audio connector which is either located in the trunk or the armrest?
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 03-03-2015, 08:31 PM
UltPostMachine UltPostMachine is offline
Registered User
Location: Washington
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 8
Mein Auto: X3
Going to resurrect this old thread to hopefully help others. Will update with hopefully good results.

My set-up:

2006 X3
No DSP
No CD Changer
No SatNav
Bluetooth option

Only connectors I found so far are in the back-left trunk area but I'm not getting any sound, only display from the MediaBridge via USB.

Looking at that PDF, I suspect the wires I need are in the center console, but I need to unscrew it first and I don't have the right tools to get to the bolts and screws in the back of the arm rest. Going to take it to my local car audio place tomorrow and hopefully they can help me out for not too much.

Attaching pics.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0217.jpg
Views:	39
Size:	130.2 KB
ID:	495649   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0219.jpg
Views:	45
Size:	103.2 KB
ID:	495650   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0218.jpg
Views:	55
Size:	95.3 KB
ID:	495651   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0220.jpg
Views:	50
Size:	117.7 KB
ID:	495652  
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 03-03-2015, 08:54 PM
x3brian x3brian is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Sacramento CA
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,050
Mein Auto: X3
DICE MediaBridge & DSP Adapter

Center console requires no tools that I remember to get to the digital connection. Open it up and pull the black inner liner straight up.

You will need to fish your hands to the bottom to find a Velcro wrapped connector. Be careful very sharp metal.

Last edited by x3brian; 03-03-2015 at 09:03 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 03-08-2015, 10:40 PM
UltPostMachine UltPostMachine is offline
Registered User
Location: Washington
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 8
Mein Auto: X3
I found and unwrapped two sets of cables but they were already hooked up and the wrong kind that would connect to the MediaBridge. I was thinking there might be more cords under the metal parts (everything's zip-tied down), so I wanted to take the whole center console off and get underneath which I don't have the tools for.

What's made this stranger is that my display for the Mediabridge works when connected to the iPhone via USB, but the bluetooth isn't showing up on my phone as an option at all. Only the bluetooth that the car came with is listed. The plot thickens...
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 03-09-2015, 05:46 AM
VE2ZYC VE2ZYC is offline
Registered User
Location: Sherbrooke Quebec
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 5
Mein Auto: E39 M5
In my X3 the cable set were under the metal part. I didn't had to remove the whole center consol to get them. I'm still able to connect, charge the phone, change the songs but I have no sound at all.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Forum Navigation
Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > X Series > X3 E83 (2004 - 2010)
Today's Posts Search
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:53 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
© 2001-2015 performanceIX, Inc. All Rights Reserved .: guidelines .:. privacy .:. terms