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Old 04-18-2003, 06:56 AM
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brake fluid change on E46

I am considering Driving Concepts school on Jul22. The tech inspection form says brake fluids should be changed semi-anually (vs owner manual 2yr period). My car will be 6mo old on Jun 11. I guess this implies a brake fluid change. What flavor brake fluid? What tools? Maybe a TechSession item?
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ATE Typ 200. Just like superblue, except without concerns that your dealer will give you crap about it.

You NEED six feet of .170 ID clear plastic tubing and a soda bottle. (for waste) You should get a pressure bleeder as well. You'll need a couple small metric wrenches as well.
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You NEED six feet of .170 ID clear plastic tubing and a soda bottle.
Just curious, why six feet of tubing?
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I think Nick meant six INCHES. He's always trying to make 6 inches a lot longer than it really is.

Yeah, come by the TechSession on May 31st, bring fresh brake fluids and we'll show you how it's done.
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I think Nick meant six INCHES. He's always trying to make 6 inches a lot longer than it really is.


yeah about 12 inches works for me...
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Well... I personally find that it's a lot easier with lots and lots of slack in the tubing. And at $0.13 a foot...
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At six "foot" it becomes harder to overcome the "friction" inherent in such a long, um, tube.
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OK, have patience with me. I went to Pep Boys and Kraagen today. I didn't see any ATE Typ 200, only random DOT 3 types. Is this a dealer item? Also, didn't find a pressure bleeder (Pep boys, Kraagen, Harbor Freight).

Also, with the six *foot* tubing it will take a lot longer to get all the fluids out. Isn't that supposed to prolong the enjoyment of the task at hand?

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OK, have patience with me. I went to Pep Boys and Kraagen today. I didn't see any ATE Typ 200, only random DOT 3 types. Is this a dealer item? Also, didn't find a pressure bleeder (Pep boys, Kraagen, Harbor Freight).

Also, with the six *foot* tubing it will take a lot longer to get all the fluids out. Isn't that supposed to prolong the enjoyment of the task at hand?

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The best thing pep boys will have is Castrol GT LMA.

Go to bavauto.com and order 2 (or 3) litres of typ 200 along with a pressure bleeder there.

I recommend 3 litres so that you have extra in case you screw up. I've been VERY thankful for the availability of extra fluid on one occasion.

I also strongly recommend having a flashlight available.
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OK, have patience with me. I went to Pep Boys and Kraagen today. I didn't see any ATE Typ 200, only random DOT 3 types. Is this a dealer item? Also, didn't find a pressure bleeder (Pep boys, Kraagen, Harbor Freight).

Also, with the six *foot* tubing it will take a lot longer to get all the fluids out. Isn't that supposed to prolong the enjoyment of the task at hand?

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Matt, try Eurasian Autoparts in Temecula, they carry SuperBlue and Typ 200 and if you buy multiple quarts the price drop to $8.99.

And if it's a manual transmission car, be sure to bleed the clutch as well, and it's two liters to bleed all 4 corners plus clutch if you're frugal, use 3 liters if you want to make sure all the old fluid comes out.
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Thanks guys. I ordered 3L plus pressure bleeder from BavAuto. Do people purge the reservoir(s) with nitrogen or dry air (to keep water out) before closing up?

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Thanks guys. I ordered 3L plus pressure bleeder from BavAuto. Do people purge the reservoir(s) with nitrogen or dry air (to keep water out) before closing up?

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Doesn't matter if you're using the pressure bleeder. I haven't had water absorption problems with using the pressure bleeder so I don't bother.
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mwette, next time, you can also call Chris Rappas, the owner of XP Engineering, or ordering online at www.xpengineering.com. Chris is a great and very knoweldgeable guy. Tell him Raffi from the BMW CCA referred you to him.
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Yeah, come by the TechSession on May 31st, bring fresh brake fluids and we'll show you how it's done.
where will this be????
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so... can i safely assume that you can buy plenty of brake fluid and the tubing needed for under $30?

i was going to make an appointment at Pacific BMW for the brake fluid flush for $88.88+tax - $20 service gift certificate = $76.21

if i can get it done at a Tech Session with a little sweat + $30... i guess i should go that route
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so... can i safely assume that you can buy plenty of brake fluid and the tubing needed for under $30?

i was going to make an appointment at Pacific BMW for the brake fluid flush for $88.88+tax - $20 service gift certificate = $76.21

if i can get it done at a Tech Session with a little sweat + $30... i guess i should go that route
$32. Three litres of fluid, tubing, small funnel. (Seriously, you need to get the funnel if you're not using a pressure bleeder.)
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$32. Three litres of fluid, tubing, small funnel. (Seriously, you need to get the funnel if you're not using a pressure bleeder.)
3 L is more than plenty...
For my E39, I use less than 1 L of fluid.

When flushing/bleeding... you'll see the new fluid come out but it has some mix of old fluid so pump out a few more ounces after you seeing the new fluid before closing it off.

Using this method I still use less than 1L.

You are set for two more flush/bleeds with 3L of fluid.
Since it's a clinic, maybe folks could share the hose after use... dont really need a dozen hosese since they are reuseable. I've been cleaning mine and putting it away in a zip lock bag.
I've done a few cars with that hose so far.





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