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E46 (1999 - 2006)
The fourth generation 3 Series (E46 chassis) was introduced in 1999 and set the standard for engineering and performance during it's years of production including being named to Car & Driver's 10 best list every one of those years! ! -- View the E46 Wiki

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Old 07-26-2006, 12:23 PM
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Help!!! No dashboard lights after changing battery at Autozone

After reading all the message here I went to autozone and bought DL49. The guy installed it for me. Car starts ok. Radi is on. BUT NOTHING COMES UP ON THE DASHBOARD. No reading of speed, gas tank, mileage...nothing!!!

Brought it to the dealership, the guys said that maybe a fuse or something got blown up. Will have to do a dianosis tomorrow to find out.

Anyone has any idea what's going on? First time trying to have something done outside the dealership and now I'm afraid that I probably should have just stayed with them.
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Old 07-26-2006, 01:02 PM
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You should probably stick to an independent BMW mechanic or the dealer. I would stay away from Autozone, Jiffy Lube etc.
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Old 07-26-2006, 01:12 PM
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Fuse is the first thing I'd check. You can check it yourself, you know . Takes all of 2 minutes...
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Old 07-26-2006, 04:59 PM
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Old 07-27-2006, 06:22 AM
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I hope the guy at Autozone didn't do any damage, like connecting the negative first, and touching metal with the positive cable.
Installing a battery normally shouldn't blow a fuse.
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Old 07-27-2006, 08:12 AM
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Check the fuse holder found inside the glove box compaartment and check for the fuse that carries the "instrument cluster"
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Old 07-27-2006, 08:24 AM
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Unfortunately no fuse blown, but the instrument cluster was fried up

according to the guy from the dealship service, somehow Autozone guy shorted the cluster unit that controls the dashboard. Now it costs over $900 to replace that!!!!

Questions is how this happened? Are the fuses supposed to protect the cluster? Or the dealship is not telling the truth? When I talked to the engineers at work, none of them seemed to believe the cause. Although they think the dealship sometimes take advantage on girls I normally do have pretty good experience with the service reps.

Anyone else had any more insight? Thanks!

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Old 07-27-2006, 08:28 AM
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But the BMW service rep. said that you should ground it first

He said actually connect the negative first? He was pretty surprised to hear to connect the positive first. But then he checked with another Rep. who said positive before negative is the normal procedure.And the engineers(they're chemical engineers though) at my work said it doesn't matter which one first.

I'm a little confused.
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I hope the guy at Autozone didn't do any damage, like connecting the negative first, and touching metal with the positive cable.
Installing a battery normally shouldn't blow a fuse.
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Old 07-27-2006, 08:34 AM
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according to the guy from the dealship service, somehow Autozone guy shorted the cluster unit that controls the dashboard. Now it costs over $900 to replace that!!!!

Questions is how this happened? Are the fuses supposed to protect the cluster? Or the dealship is not telling the truth? When I talked to the engineers at work, none of them seemed to believe the cause. Although they think the dealship sometimes take advantage on girls but I normally do have pretty good experience with the service reps.

Anyone else had any more insight? Thanks!
The fuses should protect against a current surge. I am not sure how you short out the cluster changing the battery. You may want to get a second opinion.

If some part of the electronics does need to be replaced, $900 doesn't seem unreasonable. Almost anything major on a BMW seeems to cost at least $1000.
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Old 07-27-2006, 08:44 AM
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He said actually connect the negative first? He was pretty surprised to hear to connect the positive first. But then he checked with another Rep. who said positive before negative is the normal procedure.And the engineers(they're chemical engineers though) at my work said it doesn't matter which one first.

I'm a little confused.
Because if you have the negative hooked up and touch some metal (ground) with the positive I think bad things could happen. If you have the positive hooked up and touch metal with the negative nothing bad would happen. Just a guess.

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Old 07-27-2006, 09:09 AM
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Because if you have the negative hooked up and touch some metal (ground) with the positive I think bad things could happen. If you have the positive hooked up and touch metal with the negative nothing bad would happen. Just a guess.
If you have the negative cable hooked up to the battery and ground the positive cable, nothing happens because nothing is connected to the positive battery terminal. There is no current flow.
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If you have the negative cable hooked up to the battery and ground the positive cable, nothing happens because nothing is connected to the positive battery terminal. There is no current flow.
The reason is this (from older cars):
First you attached the positive cable to the battery. As you tighten the connection, the tool you are using may contact bare metal. Since the negative terminal is not attached, nothing happens. After that is done, you attached the negative terminal. As you tighten the negative terminal, contact between the tool and chassis does not matter since the negative is attached anyways.

Now consider doing it backwards:
You attach the negative cable first, and whether you hit anything doesn't matter because a) its already attached to the chassis, and b) the postivie terminal isn't attached.
Then you go to attach the positive terminal. Your tool that is tightening the terminal makes contact with the car chassis and now you have 12V across a metal bar with the ability to push a lot of current. Boom!
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Old 07-27-2006, 10:30 AM
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The reason is this (from older cars):
First you attached the positive cable to the battery. As you tighten the connection, the tool you are using may contact bare metal. Since the negative terminal is not attached, nothing happens. After that is done, you attached the negative terminal. As you tighten the negative terminal, contact between the tool and chassis does not matter since the negative is attached anyways.

Now consider doing it backwards:
You attach the negative cable first, and whether you hit anything doesn't matter because a) its already attached to the chassis, and b) the postivie terminal isn't attached.
Then you go to attach the positive terminal. Your tool that is tightening the terminal makes contact with the car chassis and now you have 12V across a metal bar with the ability to push a lot of current. Boom!
I agree that the proper way is to connect positive first. I was responding to the statement "Because if you have the negative hooked up and touch some metal (ground) with the positive I think bad things could happen." I was pointing out that nothing bad happens until something is touching both posts on the battery so that you have a current path.
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Old 07-27-2006, 10:45 AM
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If you have the negative cable hooked up to the battery and ground the positive cable, nothing happens because nothing is connected to the positive battery terminal. There is no current flow.

Right you would need to touch the metal with a wrench while tightening.
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Old 07-14-2014, 12:00 PM
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Unhappy changed battery, Seat belt and air bag belt on

The air bag light is on and the seat belt lite after installing a new battery, 330ci, 2004
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Old 07-14-2014, 11:46 PM
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He said actually connect the negative first? He was pretty surprised to hear to connect the positive first. But then he checked with another Rep. who said positive before negative is the normal procedure.And the engineers(they're chemical engineers though) at my work said it doesn't matter which one first.

I'm a little confused.
You always connect the positive first. Electrons flow from negative to positive.
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Actually the car can care less which you connect first. Smart bmw owners connect the positive first and negative last.

When removing the connections smart bmw owners remove the negative first and the positive last.

Why?

Wrenchs melt nicely when shorted messing around with the positive cable in the tight confines of a bmw's trunk. You will find a good bit of the tool kits in bmw's missing the wrench that fits the battery

Also just to lower the risk of firing off that EXPLOSIVE gas cylinder in the positive battery clamp is cool too. I can see murphy having a field day with that.
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Old 07-15-2014, 10:13 AM
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Okay , seat belt light out
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I changed out this battery 3 days ago. i reconnected everything very quickly. but after disconnecting, and waiting 20 minutes before reconnect the Seat belt lite went off, but the Airbag lite is on!
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Airbag lights need to be reset with an airbag reset tool.
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