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Old 04-06-2017, 10:50 AM
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Engine stutter/miss when in high gear?

Hey, so my 2011 328i isn't throwing any codes and doesn't have any shadow faults stored. I had my transmission replaced under CPO warranty a few weeks ago. Now I'm noticing that if I give it gas when at low revs, the car feels like it misfires every now and then.

It's really pronouced if I'm driving down the road and shift into the highest gear it will go into with the paddles, and then give it a lot of gas. I get these "bumps" every second or so.

What could it be? Coils and spark plugs are too new to have issues.
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Old 04-06-2017, 11:45 AM
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I have this exact same issue. seems to happen in cold weather only. now that is has warmed up, I dont get this problem anymore.

my vote is injectors.

on a side note, why did you need a new transmission? auto or manual? what mileage are you at?
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Old 04-06-2017, 12:10 PM
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I have this exact same issue. seems to happen in cold weather only. now that is has warmed up, I dont get this problem anymore.

my vote is injectors.

on a side note, why did you need a new transmission? auto or manual? what mileage are you at?
Should I take it back to the dealer before the CPO warranty expires on the 17th? I thought maybe I'm just crazy and it's supposed to do that, but now I think it's something wrong. Happens more when the engine is really cold.

Just hit 87k miles today, transmission was replaced because of delayed shifts. Dealer just replaced under CPO two weeks ago, apparently the part alone was $7200 so I'm glad it was taken care of.
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Old 04-06-2017, 02:22 PM
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If everything runs fine there is no need. Change oil with 5w40 liqui moly and change your injectors, you'll be fine.

Be sure to also change transmission fluid every 100k for your gm unit. The delayed shifts were likely caused by a solenoid issue which is not a pain to replace.
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Old 04-06-2017, 02:37 PM
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If everything runs fine there is no need. Change oil with 5w40 liqui moly and change your injectors, you'll be fine.

Be sure to also change transmission fluid every 100k for your gm unit. The delayed shifts were likely caused by a solenoid issue which is not a pain to replace.
I had the transmission fluid, filter and gaskets swapped at 60k and it still went bad. It wasnt completely failed, but BMW doesn't repair, they just swap it out.

The car does do the stutter thing when pulling away from stop signs as well though.
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Old 04-07-2017, 02:11 PM
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I had the transmission fluid, filter and gaskets swapped at 60k and it still went bad. It wasnt completely failed, but BMW doesn't repair, they just swap it out.

The car does do the stutter thing when pulling away from stop signs as well though.
most likely either coils or injectors.

if you are in a high gear, apply little only how much throttle is necessary for the RPM you are at. eg. half throttle while revving to 2000rpm will cause stuttering but its also not good for your engine and you wont go any faster.
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Last year I had the same issue with no codes. I figured it was either the plugs or coils so I decided to change the plugs first. I had the original plugs with 110,000 miles on them, yes my bad! All good and I have 136,000 miles now.
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The stuttering got really bad last night.. I need to change my coils. It seems tied to cold weather.

Should I change just the fault one(s) or all 6?
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The stuttering got really bad last night.. I need to change my coils. It seems tied to cold weather.

Should I change just the fault one(s) or all 6?
If you know the bad one(s) just change those. How many miles are on you plugs?
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75k but worn spark plugs make your coil go bad much quicker. I actually just replaced coil 4 today and it runs perfect. Will be getting new spark plugs on Monday.
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75k but worn spark plugs make your coil go bad much quicker. I actually just replaced coil 4 today and it runs perfect. Will be getting new spark plugs on Monday.
Nice. I was fortunate that my miss firing was due to severely worn plugs and caught it before it ruined any coils. I still have all my original coils 25,000 miles later. I love how easy it is to change out the plugs and / or coils on this engine.
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Definitely coils!

Or not....


How would ya know? [click me] -- pay attention to the misfire diagnosis link. Do you know what VANOS solenoids are, and non-return valves? Just sayin'.
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Old 04-10-2017, 07:17 AM
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Definitely coils!

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How would ya know? [click me] -- pay attention to the misfire diagnosis link. Do you know what VANOS solenoids are, and non-return valves? Just sayin'.
Cal,

I'm not getting any codes, I own a scanner which can read shadow faults and there aren't any. I know what VANOS solenoids are, and I can clean them with compressed air if needed, is there a gasket that needs to be changed? Not sure about the non-return valves.
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Still having issues after cleaning the VANOS solenoids with compressed air. Anybody else have any ideas? No codes stored and the problem is getting worse. Maybe Fdriller has an idea?
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Still having issues after cleaning the VANOS solenoids with compressed air. Anybody else have any ideas? No codes stored and the problem is getting worse. Maybe Fdriller has an idea?
go and get your car scanned to find out which cylinder is misfiring. change ignition coil in that cylinder. be sure to change all 6 spark plugs.
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Old 04-21-2017, 11:36 AM
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go and get your car scanned to find out which cylinder is misfiring. change ignition coil in that cylinder. be sure to change all 6 spark plugs.
I did, there are no stored codes or shadow faults. I don't think it's actually a misfire, it's just bogging down. I'm really stumped and don't know what to do. There isn't any oil in the eccentric shaft sensor either.
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Are you using a generic scanner? Those will not pick up shadow codes. One specific for BMW's will. Your symptoms do sound like an ignition coil..
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Are you using a generic scanner? Those will not pick up shadow codes. One specific for BMW's will. Your symptoms do sound like an ignition coil..
No, i'm using a BMW specific scanner I paid good money for, I did a scan on all 19 control modules on my car and didn't find a single fault.

I have had an ignition coil fail before right after 50k miles, the car felt like it was going to die and my dash lit up immediately. I was under CPO and my dealer decided to replace all 6 ignition coils and all 6 spark plugs under warranty when this happened. I'm now only at 87k miles and I don't have any codes and it's not constant.

I took it for a long drive tonight and it's random, not rhythmic. It feels worse under heavy load. When I'm taking off from a stop. When I have it in manual mode and put it into the highest gear it will go, and then give it gas, I can really feel it. It's a rough pulsing sensation.

I'm really stumped on this one. =(
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