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E63 / E64 6 Series (2004 - 2010)
The E63/E64 BMW 6 Series builds on BMW's sporty heritage with aggressive lines and an incredible motor to back the design up. Available in coupe and convertible trims with a standard 4.8 liter engine producing 360 horsepower and 360 lb-ft of torque, the 6-series is a popular choice that exceeds expectations.

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Old 02-19-2015, 04:22 AM
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Any 04/05 645 Owners Have Paddle Shifters???

Hi guys I was looking to change my steering wheel to a M6 steering wheel with paddle shifters and buy the harness to make the paddle shifters work, from all I read all I needed was the wheel and the harness. I wanted the M6 wheel so I could have the paddles that lit up also, well I was told by a guy from MOTIVE MODS that if I get a wheel from a m6 after 9/2005 it won't work. He ain't me a picture that I posted and said I need a wheel to look like the left side of the picture to work. I believe him but I was never explained why it won't work it looks like the bottom piece is a little different on the newer wheels. So I'm just wondering if any 04-05 645 owners have paddle shifters installed and what route did u go?? I also wanna keep the heat function on my wheel.

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Old 02-19-2015, 08:41 PM
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Any input ??
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Old 02-22-2015, 12:02 AM
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Guess not lol
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Old 02-22-2015, 12:56 AM
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Hi, I did this exact project on my e39 using an e46 M3 wheel & slip ring. The slip ring had an additional 2 pins on it that were for the +/- feeds which I just ran a wire from down to the auto lever & slipped the pins in the the shift lever connector, very easy.

I also have 2 x SMG equipped e63 6 Series with paddles (a 630i & an M6), the shift speed in the e39 auto with the paddles is a bit of a let down in comparison to either 630/M6.

I suspect the reason the later wheel will not work is down to the messaging system used from the wheel changed. In my e39 the +/- were individual wires for each, other systems in the e39 like the lights for example are no longer separated circuits, the lights are controlled on an information bus (messaging network) rather than a simple switch on/power on arrangement. The control unit receives an input from a switch panel, it decodes the message to determine which switch sent it, it then determines where to send the power to.

However in the e6x the electronics requirements have grown exponentially! So more and more circuits have to move to an information bus arrangement. This bus is called K CAN and in later models an even faster information bus called D CAN was introduced.

The betting is that what method used to relay the information from the steering wheel has changed & that is why the guy suggested using the earlier wheel.

This forum can be quiet at the weekends & also remember that the 6 Series is not a common car! There are a core group of users on here that are quite techincal & resourceful. They are also very "hands on" people which is very unusual in my view given the type of car that the e63 is. I would also suggest trying the e60 5 series forum with your question, the e63 from a lot of ways including electronics is an e60 at heart. Also try 5Series.net with your question too.
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Old 02-22-2015, 06:05 AM
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Wow legit man I appreciate the detailed response .. How does that e46 wheel feel in your 6er? How does it even look? , funny thing is I just got rid of my e46 and I had a ///M3 smg steering wheel that I just sold figuring no e46 no need for that wheel. I'll most likely just go with motive mods.coms kit and wheel. I'll definitely check out a ///M5 wheel though .. I'll have to c which years fit steering wheel will fit
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Old 02-22-2015, 12:00 PM
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The e46 SMG wheel is in my e39, not the e63!
I have a proper e63 SMG wheel in my e63(s).
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Old 02-22-2015, 12:42 PM
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Oh ok gotcha ... Thanks for all the info
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