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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 07-23-2008, 04:13 PM
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BMW E39 Radio Adjustment for iPod FM transmitter or wire

Three questions all rolled up into one ...

1. Why does the BMW E39 radio have SOOOO much static on an "empty" radio station (is there a way to kill the static)?

2. In an attempt to avoid static, I can find "empty" even-numbered stations; but how do I get the BMW E39 "Corporate" radio, in "m" manual mode, to tune to an even-numbered station, e.g., 89.0 (vs 89.1 or 88.9).

3. In a further attempt to avoid pop hiss crackle FM radio static when transmitting from my iPod, is it easy to hook a WIRE to the radio instead of the Belken FM transmitter?

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Old 07-23-2008, 04:18 PM
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You have to set it to European mode...but if you listen to AM or have factory Sirius installed, they won't work with that setting.

Edit: the BMW AUX input is very easy to wire in.
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Old 07-23-2008, 05:44 PM
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Where is the Aux input for a 2002 E39 (built in 11/2001)?

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the BMW AUX input is very easy to wire in.
Oh? The Aux input? I didn't know anything about an "Aux input". ... ... ... Am searching ... ... searching ... Hmmm ... where might that Aux input be for a 2002 E39 with no navigation, no bluetooth, but it does have the "Corporate Radio" with steeering wheel control?

Are you intimating I can just wire my iPod nano into a connector sticking out somewhere and forever stop fiddling with the hissy Belken FM transmitter altogether?
Tell me it's that easy!


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Old 07-23-2008, 07:32 PM
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or if you have a tape player above thats another cheap alternative to hook into.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:07 PM
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Where is the Aux input on a 2002 E39 (built in 11/2001)?

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or if you have a tape player above thats another cheap alternative to hook into.
It's a CD player on my E39 ... sans Nav.

I looked up where to find the "E39 Aux input" for my 2002 E39 which was apparently built in 11/2001.

Are these my options:
- FM transmitter (the Belken one I have stinks as there is too much static on any station)
- Auxiliary Audio Input Kit - P/N 82 11 0 149 390 (problem is the E39 must be built after 9/2002 plus there's no control of the iPod nor charging)
- DICE SILVERLINE iPod integration trunk kit (allows for steering wheel & radio control of iPod and charging)

The only problem is the DICE writeup assumes a CD changer in the trunk but I don't have one that I know of....
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Old 07-23-2008, 10:37 PM
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Still doing research, I found it matters which DICE kit to get, based, partly, on whether or not I have the CD changer.

I guess these are my choices:
DICE - SILVERLINE iPod Integration Kit for 5 Series 97-03 (Radio Interface)
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...oducts_id=1624

DICE - SILVERLINE iPod Integration Kit for 5 Series/M5 97-03 (Trunk Interface)
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...oducts_id=1625


BTW, is this normal to have a plastic button saying I have the 6 CD changer but to not actually have the BMW cd changer in the trunk?

I'm still trying to figure out if I have analog or digital DSP or neither so I know which DICE kit to order?



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Old 07-23-2008, 11:35 PM
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Ok here's the lowdown on the DICE stuff.

1) All E39s are wired for a CD Changer. They may not necessarily have a CD Changer installed, but the wiring is there regardless. These plugs are where you plug in the DICE unit - if you have DSP.
2) You can tell if you have DSP by simply looking at your radio. Looking at your radio face, you don't have DSP because you don't have a button that says "DSP" on your radio - it's as simple as that. You can order the non-DSP kit.
3) You only need to do the trunk interface version if you have DSP, so you're in luck. It's a significantly easier install doing it from the radio head unit. For DSP you have to wire up a Digital/Analog converter to the amp located in the trunk, so I think for ease of installation they just do all the connections in the trunk.

So yeah - get the radio interface one and you'll be golden. Probably want to confirm with Tom at EAS just to make sure though.
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Old 07-24-2008, 03:01 AM
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i found a site that sells a kit that is the same as a dice kit but its just under a diff name because they make it them self.http://indashpc.org/new/ i will be ordering my kit from them soon
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Old 07-24-2008, 04:09 AM
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Ok here's the lowdown on the DICE stuff.

1) All E39s are wired for a CD Changer. They may not necessarily have a CD Changer installed, but the wiring is there regardless. These plugs are where you plug in the DICE unit - if you have DSP.
2) You can tell if you have DSP by simply looking at your radio. Looking at your radio face, you don't have DSP because you don't have a button that says "DSP" on your radio - it's as simple as that. You can order the non-DSP kit.
3) You only need to do the trunk interface version if you have DSP, so you're in luck. It's a significantly easier install doing it from the radio head unit. For DSP you have to wire up a Digital/Analog converter to the amp located in the trunk, so I think for ease of installation they just do all the connections in the trunk.

So yeah - get the radio interface one and you'll be golden. Probably want to confirm with Tom at EAS just to make sure though.
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The DICE Silverline is everything advertised and really is the only way to install an iPod in an e39. Works like a charm and eliminates all the FM transmitter hassles (e.g. powerline buzzing, etc.). I went with the trunk mount. A 30 min total install. Absolutely no interference. I hear the radio install is even quicker and everything sits in the glovebox. I routed the cable into my armrest console where the iPod sits. You will need occasional access as the iPod will occasionally end songs prematurely (twice in 6 weeks) or fail to engage (once in 6 wks). Seeing your songs' info come up on the display is way cool! Also Tom at EAS is extremely helpful and epitomizes customer support. His support alone is worth any premium you pay over a competitor's system.

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Old 07-24-2008, 05:26 AM
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hey have you tried an FM modulator instead of the cradle you are using? it is a million times better for ipod reception. Shuts off the signal to anything other then your ipod frequency.
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Old 07-24-2008, 11:38 AM
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with the site that i listed it has the full front control too like the dice system. the track name come up the track min and all its just a whole lot cheaper about 75 bucks
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Old 09-02-2008, 10:13 PM
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Hi guys,
Does anyone know if the DICE kits handle the new iPod Touch that Apple plans on releasing next week?
I've decided on the Dice kit, but I haven't yet decided on trunk vs radio mount (I'll do whichever is easier but I'm not really sure which is easier).
But, I may as well get the kit that works with the latest iPods (to be released next week).

Anyone know if the new iPods will have the same interface to the Dice cables?
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Old 09-03-2008, 03:50 AM
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I would bet that all new iPods are backward compatible to the old iPod interface. My daughters' new iPod Nanos are compatible with my Mini and my AC charger. Changing the interface would be dumb engineering. Internal electronics are another matter but output is output and charging inputs shouldn't change so I would GUESS nothing will be changed.
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Old 09-03-2008, 08:29 AM
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OK. Well, we'll find out next Tuesday. Until then, I'm gonna hold off on the Dice purchase.

Besides, as in the other thread (http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=290558) I have the paralysis between choosing the trunk mount vs the radio mount.

I'll bet the Dice boys lose more business over that quandary than anything else. My suggestion would be for them to design the kit "either way" so the user buys it first, and, after buying it, and at the job itself, the user decides which method to use. Sigh.

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http://www.peripheralelectronics.com...x?ProductID=16

These are the units they sell at Best Buy and Audio Express (AZ audio dealer).

I haven't installed it yet, but you should have control over your ipod through the radio. It is specific for BMW.
They wire it through the CD changer cables. You can have the plug for your ipod come out of the glove box and several other crafty locations.
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Disregard my comment. EAS seems to be the way to go if you want the track info to display on the MID.
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Bluebee man, you are one mixed up dude. Are you British by any chance? I say head to Bavsound.com. They aren't losing sales trust me. There is the dice module itself and then there is the ash-tray mount kit as an add-on. The ONLY question is whether you want your dice mounted sitting in a dock or not. And it's a sweet option. Also, why don't you post in the DICE thread to see if they will support the new ipod touch instead of waiting and hoping? Show some initiative. Official EAS Dice Thread
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Collection of E39 references for Dice installation

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why don't you post in the DICE thread
OK, I placed into that Dice thread all the E39 references I knew of, including the actual PDFs of the E39 Dice installation & troubleshooting manuals, plus a couple of videos of complete E39 Dice installations.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...postcount=1735


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I have a e39 with a 02/2002 production date with a business CD, although I am considering satellite radio instead of ipod. I am curious if you considered the Intervee II option; it is more expensive then the Dice
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I have my sirius receiver hooked up to the AUX on my DICE unit so I have iPod AND satellite lovin', then in-dash CD and of course terrestrial radio. If you can't find something good to listen to with all those options then god help you! LOL. Seriously though it rocks. The Dice has it's quirks but I've def heard good things about the Intravee even with it's hefty pricetag.
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I am curious if you considered the Intervee II option
Never heard of "Intervee II" before.
Seems to only be one thread on it here on Bimmerfest ...
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...ht=intervee+ii
Wasn't much there by way of explanation.

What is Intervee II anyway?

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Well, I am learning about it too. but here is what I know. intervee II is made in the UK and is sold by bimmernav. It converts data from an alpine bus/format called AI-net to the BMW bus/format called I-BUS or something like that. Alpine has some devices that communicate with each other via the AI-net.
So for IPOD I quess you need to buy the intervee II device for the AI-net to Ibus conversion and also anther device (the KCA-420i ipod adapter) to convert from ipod data to the AI-net.
The appealing thing is the installation is easy. it can be all in the truck with the ipod info displayed on the MID and the ipod controlled from the steering wheel and MID buttons.

Same with satellite radio .
Google intervee II for more info

Please jump in if anyone has any experiences with this setup.
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Never heard of "Intervee II" before.
Seems to only be one thread on it here on Bimmerfest ...
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...ht=intervee+ii
Wasn't much there by way of explanation.

What is Intervee II anyway?
Do a search for just "Intravee" and you'll find plenty.
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