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Old 08-24-2008, 02:57 PM
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Wow...07 E90 335 vs. 09 E90 335 pricing

I just checked some old spreadsheets I had put together on my since sold 07 E90 335...and then I plugged in some numbers from Jon's new 09 pricing sheets and found that the retail pricing for a replacement has gone up almost $3000 in two years!

Wow...yet another reason to cruise autotrader.com, cars.com, etc. for late model privately owned BMW's instead of ordering new.

EDIT...I messed up originally and thought it was a $5000 difference...my car was only about $3000 but a more loaded version could start to push a $4000 difference.

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Old 08-24-2008, 04:50 PM
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Nothing beats the feeling of buying a brand new juicy car fresh from the factory. Money comes and goes. Live life to it's fullest. eat more mangos.
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Also remember, that the depreciation of a new car is steepest within its first 2-3 years. It's not too bad for BMWs (you can thank the marketing folks for Free Maintenance), but buy a new Hyundai for $20k now, and in 4 years it will be worth WAY less than half that.
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I just checked some old spreadsheets I had put together on my since sold 07 E90 335...and then I plugged in some numbers from Jon's new 09 pricing sheets and found that the retail pricing for a replacement has gone up almost $5000 in two years!
Wow, can that be right? There was NO increase from '07 to '08, at least for the E90 328 but I thought also for the 335, though they did bump the '08 prices slightly mid-year. It seems crazy that they could boost prices so much for '09.
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Wow, can that be right? There was NO increase from '07 to '08, at least for the E90 328 but I thought also for the 335, though they did bump the '08 prices slightly mid-year. It seems crazy that they could boost prices so much for '09.
Oops...I messed up...the difference was 'only' like $3000.

Amongst other things the base price went up 1400...ZSP went up 550...destination went up 130...metallic went up 75...and Logic 7 is no longer included, a new 875 cost.
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Nothing beats the feeling of buying a brand new juicy car fresh from the factory. Money comes and goes. Live life to it's fullest. eat more mangos.
Are you one of those $30,000 'millionaires'?!



Just kidding...but large price increases in times of economic difficulty can't but hurt US sales at the very least.

At the current stage in my life I need to pay cash for cars and the additional $3000 plus another $3000 for sales tax is a lot of coin when it actually comes out of your pocket.

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Also remember, that the depreciation of a new car is steepest within its first 2-3 years. It's not too bad for BMWs (you can thank the marketing folks for Free Maintenance), but buy a new Hyundai for $20k now, and in 4 years it will be worth WAY less than half that.
Agreed...it is all about total cost of ownership...whether you lease or buy...what other model you are comparing too, etc.

BMW's are good at holding value...and they are great deals when purchased as low mileage one year old models from private parties (no sales tax due in a lot of states, AZ included).
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Let this be a lesson to all of those who refuse to buy "first year" BMWs, and those who hold out until the next model year...

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Also remember, that the depreciation of a new car is steepest within its first 2-3 years. It's not too bad for BMWs (you can thank the marketing folks for Free Maintenance), but buy a new Hyundai for $20k now, and in 4 years it will be worth WAY less than half that.
Same with a BMW.

2004 M3's are going for 30-35K if you shop around(And you don't have to look very hard). That could be almost 1/2 of what they were new. BMWs are not immune to the 'auto market'.
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Exactly. To make a valid comparison, price out both the 09 and 07 in EUROS at the time of release, and I think you'll discover that the 09 is the same or cheaper in Euro-terms. The Dollar has plummeted amazingly in the last 2 years against the Euro (and most other currencies). If anything, you're lucky that BMW didn't pass along their accurate Euro/Dollar price difference.
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Also remember, that the depreciation of a new car is steepest within its first 2-3 years. It's not too bad for BMWs (you can thank the marketing folks for Free Maintenance), but buy a new Hyundai for $20k now, and in 4 years it will be worth WAY less than half that.

If you want a car that keeps it's value, get a Honda then.
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I just noticed that too - I bought my E92 335 last year (November) - hasn't even been a year and comparing the price that was just realeased retail to retail, it is somewhere between 3 and 4k more this year than last, mostly due to all the hidden things removed from packages and increases in package prices that does it!
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I just noticed that too - I bought my E92 335 last year (November) - hasn't even been a year and comparing the price that was just realeased retail to retail, it is somewhere between 3 and 4k more this year than last, mostly due to all the hidden things removed from packages and increases in package prices that does it!
Yep...I think BMW is going to struggle in the US this coming year...on top of the big price increase their lease residuals and MF's are not near as attractive as they used to be (as well they shouldn't be).
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Old 08-25-2008, 09:41 AM
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Yep. Weak dollar.

If you passed on an invoice-priced '08 @ 0.9% financing, an '09 will cost a TON more both at sale and during the life of the car. I was fully prepared to pay cash for my '08, but got sucked into the financing deal (25% down). This was a great deal sisnce I put the difference in a CD.

My CA told me that BMW's "pull" strategy will be in full force starting with the '09 models, so forget huge discounts and finacing deals. In his words, the weak dollar just makes it "not worth it".

I do think the '09 E90 model is much improved (hood, front-end, LED's)....BUT it just would have cost so much more that it didn't seem worth waiting for....
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Same with a BMW.

2004 M3's are going for 30-35K if you shop around(And you don't have to look very hard). That could be almost 1/2 of what they were new. BMWs are not immune to the 'auto market'.
Yep, looking at some low mileage (35K) 03-05 M3 verts on autotrader.com for $30K!
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I tried to buy a low mileage '07 335 Coupe for cash, but with pricing still in the high 30s low 40s and buyers apparently not realizing their car isn't worth high 30s, I couldn't close a deal. In the end it was actually cheaper for me to buy a new 2008 (@ invoice) with the 0.9%. I originally tried to find a new Coupe, but gave up that quest when I decided I had to have a manual trans. Six speed '08 Coupes are nearly impossible to find right now. 2 weeks ago I bought a TiAg 335i Sedan with manual trans, ZSP, ZPP, PDC, heated seats, ipod, alum trim for $41750. With 0.9% there wasn't a reason to use a cent of my own money. The OTD was $45600. I'm more than thrilled with my new car...!

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