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E60 / E61 (2004 - 2010)
BMW 5-Series E60 Sedan was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E61 wagon followed shortly there after. The E60/E61 5 series is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 04-20-2015, 09:11 AM
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When I got my first "real job" in 2007 I bought a 01 Merc E430 4matic, and since then have DIYed everything. Happy to say it's running strong at 240000 miles until I hit a deer. I'm afraid my insurance is going to total it. Almost immediately after buying the MB I have wanted an E60. Since we will probably become acquainted after my purchase, I would like to ask for your hard earned advice on the "just right" E60 as far as year, model, options etc. I'm used to a V-8, but it's not a must have. Ryan
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Old 04-20-2015, 09:20 AM
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Old 04-20-2015, 09:21 AM
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As much as I'd like an M5... Lol
'08 is the improved interior though.
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Old 04-20-2015, 09:58 AM
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'08-'10 550i if you must have a V8 and/or don't plan on doing any mods.

'08-'10 535i if you want mod potential.

Both are better with the M-Sport packages in terms of looks.
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Old 04-20-2015, 10:02 AM
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No mods, just a nice daily driver. I'd be fine with a 6. Reading over the "so you just bought a E60" pdf it looks like the turbos are a bit more worry and cost.
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Old 04-20-2015, 10:03 AM
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I'm just gonna leave this right here: http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/10-...-m5-1608323644

It's what made me seriously consider and then buy a 2010 with the M Sport package. Now mine's got dual cone intake and Juice Box 4. Very nice.
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Old 04-20-2015, 10:09 AM
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Good read Kabong
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Old 04-20-2015, 10:59 AM
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As much as I'd like an M5... Lol
'08 is the improved interior though.

Same here LOL.I went 550i coming from a 545i.535i would still be a toss up for me.Agree M Sport is a must have either way.
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Old 04-20-2015, 11:38 AM
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Ok so I'm hearing the most desirable, this is useful info. How about the "avoid" list?
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Old 04-20-2015, 12:53 PM
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If you want a decent amount of miles out of an E60 you're going to want to skip on the 545i and 535i and go with either a 528, 530, or 550. They're all N/A so no turbos, carbon buildup, or HPFP repairs, and the 550i has nowhere near as many issues as its predecessor. Since you're coming from an E430, I'd say try for a 2008-10 550i with less than 75K miles. Take it to get inspected at either a dealership or good BMW indy before you buy, and change all of the fluids right away. My favorite E60's personally are the 2004-05 530i with the M54 and the 2008-2010 550i with the M-Sport Package.
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Old 04-20-2015, 01:09 PM
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Hey Collin. I read your thread "One year with a decade old E60". Sounds like you love the car, no problems with the first year of the E60? I've read about transmission "slamming" etc. I have always loved this E60, and if I can find a super clean 2004 I'd go for it.
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I'm just gonna leave this right here: http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/10-...-m5-1608323644

It's what made me seriously consider and then buy a 2010 with the M Sport package. Now mine's got dual cone intake and Juice Box 4. Very nice.
IF you're gonna chip it, get the 535. if not, 550i M-sport 6MT.
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Old 04-20-2015, 06:07 PM
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Seals on the 550i love to seep. Other than that, there's nothing common that will cause catastrophic failure or put you in limp mode like the 535s can do. Even the valve stem seals, while expensive (generally $4k+), will not leave you stranded.

Whatever you get though, be sure to get a nice warranty with it.
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Old 04-20-2015, 09:28 PM
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If you want a decent amount of miles out of an E60 you're going to want to skip on the 545i and 535i and go with either a 528, 530, or 550. They're all N/A so no turbos, carbon buildup, or HPFP repairs, and the 550i has nowhere near as many issues as its predecessor. Since you're coming from an E430, I'd say try for a 2008-10 550i with less than 75K miles. Take it to get inspected at either a dealership or good BMW indy before you buy, and change all of the fluids right away. My favorite E60's personally are the 2004-05 530i with the M54 and the 2008-2010 550i with the M-Sport Package.
I'm going to go a step farther and recommend either the up to 2007 N52B30 OL (high output, not the 528 model that's down 30hp), or the 2008+ M-sport 550 (N62B48TU). no offense to the M54, but the N52 is both light and powerful (perhaps the most powerful non-M straight 6 3.0L made?) it's also a joy to rev out with an amazingly flat torque curve.
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If you were driving a V8 a definite no to 525 or 528 it's straight up boring, the current 535 I have is awesome but it has its issues but you'll love the power without the car being very heavy and as many people suggested M package is the way to go very sexy specially now you can find a car in very gud condition around 15-20k. Good luck.

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Old 04-20-2015, 10:37 PM
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One thing worth mentioning is that the 535 is arguably a better handler than the 550 due to less weight over the nose. Drive both of them and see which you prefer.
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Old 04-21-2015, 04:29 AM
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You came from an awd. Do you want that feature still? That choice cuts your options in half, basically. I would definitely opt for sport suspension, which xi's don't get. If you're not going to drive your car hard, a 530 is probably enough for you. Mine gets 22mpg with awd and auto. And although it's floored sometimes, it's a decent compromise between efficiency and power.
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Old 04-21-2015, 05:38 AM
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FWIW, I'm happy with my 2007 530i (rwd). The limits of the car coincide nicely with the risks I'm willing to take on the street, at least around here. It's the lightest 5-series so you get the most pleasure in the curves, where it matters.

The only post-LCI feature I miss on the car is a USB port.

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Old 04-21-2015, 01:38 PM
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I will never really need the AWD in Charleston, SC. Just happenstance that I ended up with a 4matic. I can even let go of the V8 thrill if it means greater reliability. Between myself and my small group of friends we can handle a lot of DIY, and there is a good Indy nearby but I can't take a $4000 repair on this car.
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Old 04-21-2015, 02:19 PM
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Truth be told I wish I had a turbo or v8. My car handles great (with a few non xi upgrades) but it lacks power in straight line acceleration. The n52 is supposedly a crazy reliable engine, however.

My vote is for a 550. This is just hearsay, but I heard the e60 turbos aren't that reliable.
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Old 04-21-2015, 03:20 PM
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What about the 525, 2006? I think I've found a good one.
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Old 04-21-2015, 05:00 PM
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What about the 525, 2006? I think I've found a good one.
Make sure it makes enough power for you. Apart from that, the M54 engine in it should be quite reliable (if serviced properly).
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Old 04-21-2015, 05:14 PM
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Thanks Hypnos. Does anyone know which M54 variant is in this car? Looks like the M54B25 only goes through 2005.
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Old 04-21-2015, 05:30 PM
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You probably want a 530 if you're looking at a six cylinder. I believe the n52 engine supercedes the m54 around 2006-2007, but it looks like 2003-2006 530i's use the m54b30.
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Old 04-21-2015, 05:54 PM
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Ah yes, it is the N52b25. Is the M54B30 preferred? I see that it has won many awards.
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