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Old 09-15-2008, 02:01 PM
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keys locked in car (comfort access--should this be possible?)

I locked my keys in my car today. I thought it wasn't possible with comfort access. Has anyone else had this happen?

How it came about was this: I walked up to my locked car, grabbed the passenger door to unlock it, and put my bag (containing the key) on the passenger seat. I closed the door and went around to the driver's side to find it locked. I then went back to the passenger side, and it was locked as well. I'm not sure when exactly the passenger door re-locked. Since I didn't hear anything, it may have been immediately on closing the door.

Luckily, BMW can unlock the door remotely, which worked well (although my cell phone was in my bag, locked in the car, so I had to find a phone). The person at the other end said it might not work in a parking garage, so I assume the signal is sent by satellite. Thankfully, I was in a surface lot.
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Old 09-15-2008, 02:06 PM
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Yeah, that's not supposed to happen...but CA doesn't seem to be 100% reliable.

Out of curiosity, what info did you have to supply to BMW for them to unlock the car?
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Old 09-15-2008, 02:37 PM
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I think the 'key' has to be in close proximity to the door handle. I have had it NOT unlock when I tried to open it for the wife until I stepped a little closer.
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Old 09-15-2008, 02:47 PM
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Out of curiosity, what info did you have to supply to BMW for them to unlock the car?
I initially called roadside assistance. They asked my name, home phone number, and the last 6 digits of my VIN number (which I said I didn't have handy; the operator said she would look it up under my name).

I was then transferred to the remote unlocking service, and that operator asked my name, address, phone number, the car's location (city), how many hours the engine had been off, and whether the car was outside. When I told her I wasn't near the car, she said she'd send a signal with a 15-minute expiration.

What I was told to do was hold the trunk release for 30 seconds. I did that, but nothing happened. However, I then tried again, and all the doors unlocked.
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Old 09-15-2008, 03:00 PM
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I locked my keys in my car today. I thought it wasn't possible with comfort access. Has anyone else had this happen?

How it came about was this: I walked up to my locked car, grabbed the passenger door to unlock it...
Just tried to duplicate your experience (albeit you can't explain it) & placed my key in the ashtray, glove box, under the floor mat, in my briefcase & in the trunk but couldn't lock the car. Is your CA battery getting low?

Once I've locked the doors with the key lying in the back seat but have not been able to reproduce that again.

Stuff happens.
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Old 09-15-2008, 03:23 PM
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I couldn't reproduce it either (I waited until I was home with my spare key to try).

What bothers me is that I used to trust the idea that I couldn't be locked out, and now I can't. On a few occasions, I've tried to lock the car and found it wouldn't, only then to discover the key had dropped out of my bag or pocket inside the car. From now on, I'll have to check to make sure I don't leave the key inside.
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Old 09-15-2008, 03:29 PM
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the other weird thing is, even if the car is set to open only one door, all doors are unlocked when you open from the passenger side
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Old 09-15-2008, 04:10 PM
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I now have a theory about how it happened, and this I can reproduce:

I unlocked the doors, opened the passenger door, and pushed the lock button on the fob with the doors open. That caused the stems (or whatever they're called) in the doors to drop. I threw the key on the passenger seat and closed the door. Voila, keys locked in the car.

So, I wonder if they button on the fob was inadvertently pushed after I opened the passenger door, but before I closed the door. The key was sitting in a pocket inside my bag/briefcase, and that button sticks out a bit and would be easy for anything to press on.


Edit: It occurred to me while typing that maybe I could lock the doors with a door open via comfort access (i.e., pressing on the door handle), but the system prevents that. I also discovered that the above sequence does not work with the driver's side open; the car prevents locking with the driver's side door open. I would have to think the fact that it works with the passenger door open was an inadvertent design flaw. Can anyone else reproduce it on their car?

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Old 09-15-2008, 04:12 PM
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I now have a theory about how it happened, and this I can reproduce:

I unlocked the doors, opened the passenger door, and pushed the lock button on the fob with the doors open. That caused the stems (or whatever they're called) in the doors to drop. I threw the key on the passenger seat and closed the door. Voila, keys locked in the car.

So, I wonder if they button on the fob was inadvertently pushed after I opened the passenger door, but before I closed the door. The key was sitting in a pocket inside my bag/briefcase, and that button sticks out a bit and would be easy for anything to press on.
is it possible the bag landed on the button, pressing the button in as the bag hit the seat?
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is it possible the bag landed on the button, pressing the button in as the bag hit the seat?
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
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Old 09-15-2008, 04:44 PM
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the other weird thing is, even if the car is set to open only one door, all doors are unlocked when you open from the passenger side
I believe the logic is that if you open the driver's door, for safety's sake, you don't want all the doors opening. If you open the passenger door, it's assumed there are no bad gus around and all the doors open .
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