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Old 06-17-2003, 01:20 PM
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I got a great idea! I call it Euro-delivery!

Employee: "Hey boss, I got a great idea! Instead of just manufacturing and shipping cars all over the world all day, what do you think about letting some customers come here to the factory and pick up their cars?"

"We could segregate the cars off the assembly line, truck them to a multi-million dollar delivery center, employ dozens of people to do paper work (German registration, export documentation, etc.)"

"There, we could install a first aid kit, road side reflector, floor mats, and throw in a free lunch. We will then spend an hour familiarizing the new owners with their car. We will set up free roadside assistance for a month along with free zero-deductible insurance, and then, when the customer is done using the car in Europe, we will allow them to drop the car off in any one of a dozen locations. Then we would pay to truck the car to a port for shipment."

"AND WE WILL SELL THE CAR FOR 7% LESS MONEY THAN IF WE HAD JUST SIMPLY SHIPPED IT ALONG WITH THE OTHER CARS! What do you think of this idea boss?"

Boss: "Your fired"

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Old 06-17-2003, 01:35 PM
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LOL!! and thus explains why the Japanese Auto makers do not have a "Japan Delivery Program"

Hell!! If you wanted to do a Corvettee Factory Delivery, They'd charge you more for it (for their trouble). Go figure!!

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Old 06-17-2003, 01:38 PM
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I keep thinking that any day someone at BMW is going to put a stop to the Euro-delivery discount. To my knowledge, no other German maker offers a similar program w/ a discount. I'm pleasantly surprised that BMW keeps it. FOr now, its our little (well, not so little) secret .
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LOL!! and thus explains why the Japanese Auto makers do not have a "Japan Delivery Program"

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I wouldn't even consider doing a Japanese Delivery of a car. Who would want drive in those tight streets with zillions of cars and pedestrians. Think of Tokyo.

On the other hand, there are parts of Italy that'll drive you crazy as well.
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I keep thinking that any day someone at BMW is going to put a stop to the Euro-delivery discount. To my knowledge, no other German maker offers a similar program w/ a discount. I'm pleasantly surprised that BMW keeps it. FOr now, its our little (well, not so little) secret .
Well, the discount is basically eaten by BMW NA and the dealers, who lose the CSI bonus when they sell an ED car. BMW AG gets the same amount either way, other than the insurance costs, etc., which are probably added back into the price.
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I wouldn't even consider doing a Japanese Delivery of a car. Who would want drive in those tight streets with zillions of cars and pedestrians. Think of Tokyo.

On the other hand, there are parts of Italy that'll drive you crazy as well.
Well.. at least in Italy we stay, most of the time, on the right side of the road.
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I think Volvo and Mercedes don't give discounts but give plane tickets and a night or two of hotel.
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I think Volvo and Mercedes don't give discounts but give plane tickets and a night or two of hotel.
Mercedes don't give jack.
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Not true... Volvo does a have a good ED discount program but.... Hell-sinky delivery is jus not the same as Munich

Besides, who wants a front wheel drive ford anyways??!!

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Well.. at least in Italy we stay, most of the time, on the right side of the road.
I'll grant you that. The telling part is "most of the time time". The rest of the time.

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Not true... Volvo does a have a good ED discount program but.... Hell-sinky delivery is jus not the same as Munich

Besides, who wants a front wheel drive ford anyways??!!

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Actually you can pick up your Volvo in 13 different European cities (including Munich!), but Volvo charges you for every pickup in every city except Gothenburg. You can drop off in 14 different cities, but again you get charged if you drop off anywhere except Gothenburg or Bremerhaven (does Volvo use WW as well?).

Not that I have the slightest desire to own a Volvo.
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...but again you get charged if you drop off anywhere except Gothenburg or Bremerhaven (does Volvo use WW as well?).
The Tricolor (WW ship that sank last year) was carrying BMW, Volvo and Saab plus some cargo.
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This thread reminds me of 'The Question', for which I found no convincing answer:
Why does BMW do it?
In a forum I read the ED was initiated as a way to attract customers when BMW was new to the US and needed to establish its market.
Is it true? When was that?
Does anybody have any more precise info?
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I think the reason BMW does provide European Dilevery is fbecause these are Performance Oriented Cars and in US u cant speed ur cars more then 80MPH so in order to really feel what BMW is you have to drive this car on a AutoBhan with no speed limits. ITs a way of introducing the driver to what really this car is and what it is capable of. Once you do a ED of ur BMW i can bet that u will miss the driving fun you had in Europe with this car.
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What I heard about ED...

Is that When you pick your car up in Europe, It is now able to be shipped as a used car. Somehow saves BMW Import tarriffs on New automobiles or something and BMW is kind enough to pass this on to its customers. Also serves as a great marketing tool for BMW enthusiasts who want to experience driving their cars on the autobahn. This helps build brand loyalty by creating an emotional connection... blah, blah, blah.
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Re: What I heard about ED...

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Is that When you pick your car up in Europe, It is now able to be shipped as a used car. Somehow saves BMW Import tarriffs on New automobiles or something and BMW is kind enough to pass this on to its customers. ....
That's a myth and its NOT true. The ED Program car's in a way screw the dealer's out of their "back-end" CSI money. That is the reason why you get to buy the cars cheaper.

You are right on with the BMW Marketing aspect of the ED program. I know I am now "Bavaria Blue" Through and through!!

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I would be too, Bee, if it weren't for the ....

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Re: Re: What I heard about ED...

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That's a myth and its NOT true. The ED Program car's in a way screw the dealer's out of their "back-end" CSI money. That is the reason why you get to buy the cars cheaper.

You are right on with the BMW Marketing aspect of the ED program. I know I am now "Bavaria Blue" Through and through!!

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That's what i've heard too-- although I think the back-end money only accounts for about 2% of the savings--- I think the other part of the discount BMW chalks up to "marketing" and "brand loyalty" I'd also read a plausible explanation that BMW gets some tax credits for "encouraging tourism"- but I kind of doubt that.
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Re: Re: What I heard about ED...

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That's a myth and its NOT true. The ED Program car's in a way screw the dealer's out of their "back-end" CSI money. That is the reason why you get to buy the cars cheaper. .....
etc., etc., etc.,

In actuality, this was once true, however, the import duties on new and used cars were formalized several years ago so the true economic benefit disappeared. Thus the reason that several other european car makers eliminated their ED programs at that time. However, one continuing motivation for the program for BMW is that they can exceed their "voluntary" import quotas through the ED program. So, in fact, they gain economically by being able to sell more cars then they might otherwise here in the States.
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etc., etc., etc.,

One continuing motivation for the program for BMW is that they can exceed their "voluntary" import quotas through the ED program. So, in fact, they gain economically by being able to sell more cars then they might otherwise here in the States.
I didn't know that BMW had 'voluntary quotas'. Why?
Does this go also for Audi and MB?
Can't they just put a higher 'voluntary' limit to their imports? Or eliminate it altogether?
Do they keep it so that demand is higher than supply ($$$)?
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Not true... Volvo does a have a good ED discount program but.... Hell-sinky delivery is jus not the same as Munich

Besides, who wants a front wheel drive ford anyways??!!

beewang


.....Nothing wrong with Helsinki. ....besides Volvo is Swedish.

Finnish girls are very friendly! I should know....'cos am visiting my Finnish girfriend next month.

Porsche charges for ED too.
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