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E46 (1999 - 2006)
The fourth generation 3 Series (E46 chassis) was introduced in 1999 and set the standard for engineering and performance during it's years of production including being named to Car & Driver's 10 best list every one of those years! ! -- View the E46 Wiki

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Old 02-05-2016, 02:17 PM
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E46 Front Wheel Judder & Wobble

Hi,
I've recently bought a 2005 320d Touring. It drives (well drove) as smooth as you like, 80-90 on the motorway no problems, until I slowed down in built up areas and struggled with pretty bad tram-lining on white lines etc.
Forums tended to point towards Control Arm Bushes which make perfect sense as when they flex the will be altering the toe in/out.
So, changed them no problem, but now I have a very wobbly and loose feeling steering wheel at speed 60+ mph. Any idea where my smooth ride at speed may have gone please?
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Welcome to Bimmerfest! I've moved your question to the E46 3 series forum, you will get more help in here. How many miles do you have an what is the condition of your control arm ball joints and tie rod ends?
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Old 02-05-2016, 02:51 PM
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Thanks for that. I'm still finding my war around here!

Mileage is 167k, fsh, no MOT advisories. My mate has a garage with ramps and as a consequence he told me i could put his car on the ramps and he would give it a good check over.
Had a pry bar all around the front and rear suspension and all seems fine.
Tyres are new and all balanced.
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CABs
Worn tires
Worn steering giubo
Front end alignment
Brake pad buildup on rotors
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Old 02-05-2016, 03:31 PM
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Hi Bob,
Thanks for replying.
Narrowing down where possible:
Rotors are brand new.
Tyres likewise.
Is CAB Control arm bushes? (The one at the rear of the control arms that bolt to the chassis with 2 bolts?) If so, replaced last week - thats when the wobble started, after I changed these.
I did wonder about alignment and camber/castor but trying to get my head around why changing the rear control arm bushes would take away my high speed stability? Same with steering giubo, would it had not caused a wobble before i changed the control arm bushes?
Thanks again Bob,
Wayne.
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Old 02-05-2016, 06:40 PM
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Hi Bob,
Thanks for replying.
Narrowing down where possible:
Rotors are brand new.
Tyres likewise.
Is CAB Control arm bushes? (The one at the rear of the control arms that bolt to the chassis with 2 bolts?) If so, replaced last week - thats when the wobble started, after I changed these.
I did wonder about alignment and camber/castor but trying to get my head around why changing the rear control arm bushes would take away my high speed stability? Same with steering giubo, would it had not caused a wobble before i changed the control arm bushes?
Thanks again Bob,
Wayne.
Control arm bushings in the front end, common to need replaced with age and average miles on these.
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Hi Bob,
Thanks for replying.
Narrowing down where possible:
Rotors are brand new.
Tyres likewise.
Is CAB Control arm bushes? (The one at the rear of the control arms that bolt to the chassis with 2 bolts?) If so, replaced last week - thats when the wobble started, after I changed these.
I did wonder about alignment and camber/castor but trying to get my head around why changing the rear control arm bushes would take away my high speed stability? Same with steering giubo, would it had not caused a wobble before i changed the control arm bushes?
Thanks again Bob,
Wayne.
Sometimes, replacing a worn CAB can expose other failing parts in the CA. If those are original CABS with that mileage, it is quite possible your ball joints (outer and/or inner) are worn. A "soft" CAB may have been hiding that. Just a thought. I have chased numerous front end "shakes". These suspensions are VERY sensitive. It can be tie rods, struts, bearings, Bushings, Sway bar end links, brakes.

Good luck.
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