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Old 01-21-2009, 04:32 AM
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Z3 97 replace outside door handle rubber gasket

I reviewed some of the earlier threads on taking removing the inner door panel etc but I'm curious I need to replace the outer door handle rubber gaskets due to age & cracking and wondering if I have to follow the same procedure on removing the inner door panel etc ? is there an easier procedure to just replace the outter door gaskets ? sorry I didn't see any prior threads on this issue ?
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Old 01-21-2009, 05:26 AM
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Depends on which outer gasket you want to replace, as they're two (2) of them.

The most visible one, around the black cover plate, can be changed in about one (1) minute. The one "under" the handle (that keeps water from getting inside the door) will take you half a day.

Everything you need to know about your door handle can be learned in this thread: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1157321
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Old 01-21-2009, 07:46 AM
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Z3 97 replace outside door handle rubber gasket

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It's the black cover plate around the perimeter of the handle , the 1 minute job ??!!

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Old 01-21-2009, 08:08 AM
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Yep, about a minute if you have/make a suitable tool and have a new cover/gasket at the ready.



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Old 01-21-2009, 08:33 AM
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Thanks Randy

I'll figure something out with that tool via the picture !

Thnaks again !
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Old 01-21-2009, 08:36 AM
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You can use some stiff wire in lieu of the BMW tool. I used a heavy wire coat hanger to make a tool for mine. It's a bit more tricky to use, since the end is rounded (the BMW tool is flat), but it does the trick. This was the very first thing I had to replace on my roadster when I bought it.
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Old 01-21-2009, 09:55 AM
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there's a guy in Indonesia or some other oceanic country that sells these gaskets on Ebay for about $20. I bought them and they work pretty well, needed a minimal amount of trimming
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Old 01-21-2009, 11:08 AM
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Thanks to all !
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Old 01-21-2009, 11:10 AM
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Thanks to all !
The surround with gasket retails for $14.10.
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Old 01-21-2009, 11:19 AM
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The part number that I was given from BMW & Bavarian autosport is 51 21 1 977 669 Exterior Door Handle Trim Seal
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Old 01-21-2009, 11:23 AM
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The part number that I was given from BMW & Bavarian autosport is 51 21 1 977 669 Exterior Door Handle Trim Seal
That's the other one Randy mentioned.

The surround gasket comes with the surround.
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Old 01-21-2009, 11:39 AM
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so Ron the part number I mentioned is this the half day job ? to replace that seal etc ?
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Old 01-21-2009, 11:48 AM
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so Ron the part number I mentioned is this the half day job ? to replace that seal etc ?
Yes. See pic.
In the process of adding that to the Z3 FAQ links below.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...5&postcount=58

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...5&postcount=59

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Old 01-21-2009, 12:23 PM
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Marvelous, just simply marvelous !! why couldn't be a 2 minute job like the antenna grommet with a little help with Dawn soap detergent !!
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You did an antenna grommet in two (2) minutes? Not bad, as they're a pita!

Most people don't realize, that besides fitting into the hole in the fender, it has to go over this:



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Most people don't realize, that besides fitting into the hole in the fender, it has to go over this:
Somehow, "tip of the iceberg" seems appropriate.
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so Ron the part number I mentioned is this the half day job ? to replace that seal etc ?
Removing outside handle:











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Old 01-24-2009, 04:32 PM
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Randy or Ron

The BMW dealer (parts personnel) are having a hard time determing what the number of the door handle gasket that I need that goes around the perimeter of the handle. I have 51 21 1 977 669 that are the gaskets for the under the door handle ! would either of you gentlemen know the part # for the outer perimeter gasket for the door handle, it is the 1 minute job with the right tool ?
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Old 01-24-2009, 04:38 PM
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Randy or Ron

The BMW dealer (parts personnel) are having a hard time determing what the number of the door handle gasket that I need that goes around the perimeter of the handle. I have 51 21 1 977 669 that are the gaskets for the under the door handle ! would either of you gentlemen know the part # for the outer perimeter gasket for the door handle, it is the 1 minute job with the right tool ?
It's not available by itself. It comes with the surround.
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Old 01-24-2009, 06:53 PM
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Thanks Ron , I'll start at this point !
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Old 01-28-2009, 10:11 AM
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Z3 97 replace outside plastic door handle

well, I fashioned a coat hangar into a T type of setup and after removing the little cover plate from both doors I was able to see inside the "door mechanisms" and found the right "lever" to push and bingo it released the outer plastic door handle etc.
Thanks for your help & diagrams on this matter Randy !
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Old 02-01-2009, 08:18 AM
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Z3 97 replace outside door handle & gasket

One last thing, then I'll go away. You have to love German engineering, when you are ready to replace the door cover plate & gasket it just doesn't snap in you have to hold the peice against the door and the tab that you released to remove the cover plate inside the access hole in the side now you have to pull it to lock the gasket inside, push / pull engineering etc.
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Old 05-19-2009, 07:57 AM
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Z3 97 replace outside door handle seal part #

Bavarian Autosport Part number for the outer door handle rubber seal/cover -
The part numbers for the Z3 are 51 21 8 400 195/196 and they are $13.95 each by special
order. Special orders can be placed either from our sales agents by
phone or by entering the exact part numbers into the search box using
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Some more pictures

I just did this job on my 97 Z3 2.8. I took pictures of the things that weren't shown in this post. I bought a pair of gaskets on ebay for $6.50 with free shipping from Malaysia.

Here's the port to access the push plate, on the passenger side door:


Remove with a knife. You can see that I really mangled the plastic trying to use a little flathead screwdriver before I got out the knife. It looks like you can get under the tabs and pop this piece off easily, but mine required a lot more force than I expected. Don't scratch up your trim! On the driver's side, I used just the knife and it came out cleanly.


Open! The plate that releases the door handle surround is on the right (outer) side in this hole. Reverse that for the driver's side. A flashlight really helps here.


I used an allen wrench for the "push" part of the job:


Now you can remove the trim piece, and clean out the gunk while you're in there.


Here's a fancy tool I made for pulling the plate back after adding the new gasket! The latch has a lip that is open on its left and bottom sides (right and bottom on the driver's side door). Again, use a flashlight.


All done. Before & after shots:
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All done. Before & after shots:
How come the key hole is angled?
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