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The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 02-04-2009, 04:27 AM
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Rear View mirror removal

i've got a 2000 E39 523i, the rear view mirror has got a layer of mist inbetween the lens and the mirror. I wodner how that could be fixed, do i need a new rear-view mirror or it is possible to fix it?

Also, i wodner how to remove it from the housing?

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Old 02-04-2009, 04:55 AM
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Do you mean the side view mirror (outside the car) or the rear view mirror inside the cabin in front of the windshield?

If you mean the sideview mirror...it's probably not "mist" appearing...the reflective stuff behind the mirror is deteriorating...and you will need to replace the glass. Position the mirror glass with the top in as far as it will go and the bottom jutting out. If you can get your fingers underneath the bottom..good...but if you can't take a medium size screw driver or something similar and pop the bottom of the mirror glass outward.

The mirror glass is held on by four clips...and snaps on and off of the motor behind the mirror glass. Here's a pic of an e34 that shows how the mirror glass mounts to the motor...the e39 mirror glass mounts the same way..don't pull it too far away from the motor in case you have heated mirrors...you will need to pull the two wires off:

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Old 02-07-2009, 04:17 AM
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Maybe this solved the problem for the original poster but I need to remove and re-fit my rear view mirror (the one inside the car).

The previous owner of my car obviously had the wind shield replaced... When they re-fitted the rear view mirror they put it too far up so the plastic shroud (part 5) doesn't fit. I don't want to move the rain sensor up so my only option is to move the rear view mirror down.

What solvent can I use to safely remove the rear view mirror? (I saw that someone managed to crack their windscreen by just pulling on the rear view mirror). ...And what type of glue should I use to re-attach it?
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Interior Rearview Mirror Install & Removal Instructions

Hmm, your problem may be larger than a rearview mirror placed too high on the windshield...you may have the wrong windshield installed.

The mirror is attached to a button that (I think) is engineered into the windshield...you "bump" the mirror off the windshield's button...and you twist the mirror back onto the button to remount it. But perhaps I'm wrong...if so...lightly bump the mirror off the button...then find something that (as you say) dissolves the adhesive, then move the button further down.

To remove the mirror from the windshield UNPLUG any wiring (and remove covers from base if you have rain sensor)... then (GENTLY) bump the mirror TOWARDS the windshield...the mirror will pop off the "button" on the windshield:



To reinstall the mirror...align the base of the rearview mirror with the button on the windshield at a 45 degree angle, then twist into place:

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This is kinda along the same lines... but how do you tighten it? Mine is loose and if you barely touch it, it moves. I didnt know if thats how its supposed to be.
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Great information in this thread QSilver7. Thanks for your help.

I have long suspected (because of excess wind noise) that my windscreen is a non OEM one and that it was not correctly fitted. (I understand that the OEM windscreens are kept under tension with ratchet straps whilst the glue goes off).

Do the OEM windscreens have some form of identifying marker on them?
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...how do you tighten it? Mine is loose and if you barely touch it, it moves. I didnt know if thats how its supposed to be.
Where is it loose? There's two places:
  1. where the arm meets the windshield and connects to the button
  2. at the base of the arm where it connects to the rearview mirror
If the mirror is loose where it mounts to the windshield...I suggest bumping the mirror off...and try reinstalling. It may not be mounted properly on the windshield's button...it should be a tight fit.

If the mirror is loose where the arm and the mirror meet...again, take the mirror down and look at the back...if memory serves correct, there may be a small ring fitting that secures around a "ball" like fitting...perhaps the ring is broken or needs to be tightened.

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Do the OEM windscreens have some form of identifying marker on them?
Yes...you should notice that all of the original windows have a stamp with the BMW roundel on it and usually the name SEKURIT...you can see it to the left of the Anti-Theft sticker & quarter in the image below...and it is usually located on the lower left (driver's) side of the windshield written in BLACK text:

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Old 02-08-2009, 08:51 AM
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I checked my windscreen - I didn't see a BMW roundel but it said the following...

saint-gobain sekurit
// DOT 503 AS 1 M 21
(E17) 43R-00340
5.

It says sekurit - are these the oem suppliers? Is this the correct screen for my car?
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Hmm, your problem may be larger than a rearview mirror placed too high on the windshield...you may have the wrong windshield installed.

The mirror is attached to a button that (I think) is engineered into the windshield...you "bump" the mirror off the windshield's button...and you twist the mirror back onto the button to remount it. But perhaps I'm wrong...if so...lightly bump the mirror off the button...then find something that (as you say) dissolves the adhesive, then move the button further down.

To remove the mirror from the windshield UNPLUG any wiring (and remove covers from base if you have rain sensor)... then (GENTLY) bump the mirror TOWARDS the windshield...the mirror will pop off the "button" on the windshield:



To reinstall the mirror...align the base of the rearview mirror with the button on the windshield at a 45 degree angle, then twist into place:

The picture #3 shows how to mount the mirror back, can this be used the opposite way to remove the mirror by twisting to the right 45 degrees and pulling out?
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:48 AM
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I have a replacement rearview mirror that will work for you that is new on Ebay right now with a $9.99 starting price. You might want to grab it. When they do what yours did, they are history.
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Er, uh...wrong forum...this is e39 5 series forum 1996-2003. You need help from the e60/e61 forum.
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OK, please help. My rear-view mirror fell off and the mounting nut is still attached to the mirror. I guess the glue failed from when I had my windshield replaced a month back.
I don't want to break anything by prying the wrong way, so if anyone has done this to a mirror off the windshield, please post a reply.
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OK, please help. My rear-view mirror fell off and the mounting nut is still attached to the mirror. I guess the glue failed from when I had my windshield replaced a month back.
I don't want to break anything by prying the wrong way, so if anyone has done this to a mirror off the windshield, please post a reply.
Thanks!
I would think this simple (to a degree)...regardless if the mount is attached to the windshield or not...it still detaches and reattaches to the arm of the mirror the same way.

Take a pair of pliers and hold the "mount" still as if it was still attached to the windshield and do the same action as described in the illustrations above (as if you were bumping the mirror of the mount as it's still attached to the windshield). That would mean "prying" the mount away from the arm from a top to bottom motion (do NOT twist clockwise/counterclockwise).

Then re-glue the mount to the windshield and let it cure before remounting the mirror as described in the illustrations above.

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The picture #3 shows how to mount the mirror back, can this be used the opposite way to remove the mirror by twisting to the right 45 degrees and pulling out?
Uh...did you see the text next to picture #2? It says:

IMPORTANT!
Do not remove interior mirror toward the REAR or by TWISTING (risk of damage)
This would indicate to me to NOT separate the mount from bottom to top...nor by twisting it clockwise/counter clockwise....but rather separate the mirror from the mount by a top to bottom motion (as if BUMPING the mirror off the mount...just as described in the instructions and illustration).
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I would think this simple (to a degree)...regardless if the mount is attached to the windshield or not...it still detaches and reattaches to the arm of the mirror the same way.

Take a pair of pliers and hold the "mount" still as if it was still attached to the windshield and do the same action as described in the illustrations above (as if you were bumping the mirror of the mount as it's still attached to the windshield). That would mean "prying" the mount away from the arm from a top to bottom motion (do NOT twist clockwise/counterclockwise).

Then re-glue the mount to the windshield and let it cure before remounting the mirror as described in the illustrations above.

Good luck.
I tried "bumping" the mirror off while holding with a vice grip to no avail. I ended up twisting the mirror and it came right off, albeit with a couple scratches (see photo). Did I ruin the stud?
Also, is the stud supposed to reattach directly to the metal disk on the windshield? Or is there some sort of glue pad in between? Mine looks like there's something between the stud and the windshield disk (see photo). I'm thinking I should clean it off before re-gluing.
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I tried "bumping" the mirror off while holding with a vice grip to no avail. I ended up twisting the mirror and it came right off, albeit with a couple scratches (see photo). Did I ruin the stud?
Also, is the stud supposed to reattach directly to the metal disk on the windshield? Or is there some sort of glue pad in between? Mine looks like there's something between the stud and the windshield disk (see photo). I'm thinking I should clean it off before re-gluing.
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If someone replaced the windshield "a month back" why aren't you making this their problem?
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I tried "bumping" the mirror off while holding with a vice grip to no avail. I ended up twisting the mirror and it came right off, albeit with a couple scratches (see photo). Did I ruin the stud?
Also, is the stud supposed to reattach directly to the metal disk on the windshield? Or is there some sort of glue pad in between? Mine looks like there's something between the stud and the windshield disk (see photo). I'm thinking I should clean it off before re-gluing.
Thanks!
Glad you got them separated...but I can't answer your question because your images aren't opening. My work computer's net nanny is blocking them for some reason.
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If someone replaced the windshield "a month back" why aren't you making this their problem?
I did call this morning and they will fix it. Hopefully they'll do it right this time.
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Well, they came out and did it, but not the "right" way. The guy insisted to mount the mirror with the stud attached, even after I asked him to do it the BMW way. I figured it would be ok since the guy does this for a living. Well, I can see it's not mounted perfectly centered and now my headlights are on all the time.
Guess I'll pull of the cover and make sure the plugs are connected.
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Well, things seem to have worked out for the most part after all. Except the mirror is slightly off center. Oh well, at least the auto wipers and headlights work fine.
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Hey guys,

I had my rear view mirror come off. A soccer ball hit my windshield. The mont and mirror are hanging from just the wires. I was a little nervous about just glueing the mont and mirror back on because of the sensors. I'll try to fix it myself in the morning. Looks like it may have gotten expensive to replace if I messed it up with glue. I didn't realize the mont was still stuck to the mirror. I only have a small hole in the middle of a black solar panal (sensors) on the inside of the windshield. This must be where I glue the mont. I learned a bunch from the pics and advice. I think I can handle it now. Thanks.

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