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E60 (2004 - 2010)
BMW 5-Series (E60 chassis) was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E60 is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 02-08-2009, 04:38 PM
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Rear fogs on E60

Elsewhere on this site are excellent instructions for installing rear fogs on earlier models. Anybody done this on an E60?
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Old 02-08-2009, 07:20 PM
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Do you wanna try? It's a hit-or-miss kind of thing if you just buy the European headlamp switch and hope that's it (like the E9x). At least they're already installed on the US-spec 5er as the adaptive brake lamps.
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Old 02-09-2009, 05:08 AM
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Elsewhere on this site are excellent instructions for installing rear fogs on earlier models. Anybody done this on an E60?
I would suggest checking your DOT laws as well. BIG difference between what is allowed in Europe and what may be allowed here WRT to rear fogs. I believe the rear fogs are limited to one and only on the left side as well.

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Old 02-09-2009, 05:43 AM
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Some cars have two rear fogs and some have one. My A6 had one and the E320 has one ( both on the left) but more recent A6 models have two rear fog lamps. The US sets safety standards for cars and, as far I understand, one or two rear fogs are accepted. Perhaps BMW is concerned that the rear fog lamp being on would have some of the public think that the car has electrical problems? Just a guess, as rear fogs are not typical in the US. Actually I find them infinitely more useful than the front fogs.
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Old 02-09-2009, 06:10 AM
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Yeah my wife's A4 has 2 rear fog lamps, I think most Mini and VW's have 1 but have to be activated or get a euro switch to replace the US ones.
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Old 02-09-2009, 12:33 PM
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I do not believe there are currently any regulations on the use of rear foglamps in the US, as long as they are red (duh). I also agree they are much more useful than front foglamps, so its no surprise that they're required in the EU.

Just please, don't drive around with them on when it's clear out
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just please, don't drive around with them on when it's clear out
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Old 02-09-2009, 03:45 PM
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Rear fogs are an option on Minis and you get two. I think that they are standard on Benzs.

I agree that they are extremely annoying on clear nights when used for 'look how cool I am' purposes.

I live in the Sierra foothills above Fresno which might be the fog capitol of the world. We have nasty 100 car pileups and I am looking for a little edge in not getting rear ended.

No outpouring of technical info so far!
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Old 02-10-2009, 10:58 AM
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Thank you! That was exacty what I was looking for. I had read the beginning of that thread but lost inerest on the first page.
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hmm...to bring up an old thread....i still can't find confirmation that a swap of the switch is sufficient to enable rear fog lights. anyone did the swap?
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Someone needs to pioneer it and buy the switch. It's a very simple plug-and-play switch like on all other BMWs. The real test is whether the LCM is programmed to light on the rear foglight when you push the button. The dash light might come on, but if the pin is not energised then it cannot be done unless you find another power source.

I took the plunge and did it for my 2004 X3 (and posted a write up). I had to install the bulbs, do the wiring, and then used a cigarette adapter as the 12V energy source, since the LCM would not energise the pin, even when I installed the switch, although it's cool that the dash light works. Luckily for y'all, the E60 already has the bulb and wiring there.

I feel special being the only X3 in the US with the rear foglights installed
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Old 09-26-2009, 02:33 AM
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FWIW, this spring, I bought an E60 switch for a guy in the US, and sent it to him (switch cost 110 Euros).

He installed it and it DID NOT work. He did the same mod to his E9x, and it worked fine. The last I heard, he still had not got it to work on the E60.
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Old 09-26-2009, 02:34 AM
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hmm...to bring up an old thread....i still can't find confirmation that a swap of the switch is sufficient to enable rear fog lights. anyone did the swap?
See my post below (I replied before I read your post).

I have rear fog lights, and to be honest, I have never used them. Why anyone would PAY to have these is a mystery to me!
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Old 09-26-2009, 02:28 PM
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Well, I live in an area that sees fog relatively frequently in the mountains. In addition, the highway about 30km to the west crosses a mountain gap that is notoriously foggy. Plus, it's also nice for extremely heavy snow or downpours where visibility falls below 100m.
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Old 09-26-2009, 06:42 PM
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thanks for the confirmation. not about to tinker with it if it's not plug and play
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FWIW, this spring, I bought an E60 switch for a guy in the US, and sent it to him (switch cost 110 Euros).

He installed it and it DID NOT work. He did the same mod to his E9x, and it worked fine. The last I heard, he still had not got it to work on the E60.
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Old 09-27-2009, 02:32 AM
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thanks for the confirmation. not about to tinker with it if it's not plug and play
I will send him a message (on another message board) and ask him what ever came out the experiment. He was convinced that he could get it to work.
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Old 09-28-2009, 11:36 AM
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I will send him a message (on another message board) and ask him what ever came out the experiment. He was convinced that he could get it to work.
Also find out what year his E60 is. I thought it only worked on the LCI MY08+ cars.
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See my post below (I replied before I read your post).

I have rear fog lights, and to be honest, I have never used them. Why anyone would PAY to have these is a mystery to me!
having lived in a snow area (>120 inches per year normal), rear fogs were essential in keeping the snow melted off to make them visible.

I don't know how that would work with LED based rear fogs......
are your rear fogs LED?
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I don't think any car has LED rear foglights. Even in the LCI models (3er and 5er), the light is just like the regular brake light, a bulb.
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Old 09-30-2009, 09:16 PM
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I am interested in this as well. I had it on my E36, and want to do the same on the E60. It can get pretty foggy this time of year.

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Old 10-01-2009, 10:48 AM
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I believe this may not be possible. It works with the E9x but not the E60.

Check out this thread from 5series.net

http://forums.5series.net/index.php?...&hl=fog+switch
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